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Uvalde Coverup
« on: August 11, 2022, 06:29:13 AM »

So the state of Texas would only release the records of the shooting for legislative purposes only. Not for public information. How nice! This investigation is over folks. The only ones who paid the price for this .....School Principal and the school Chief of police. and a Liberal Democrat Judge says Department of Public Safety can withhold records on Robb Elementary School massacre
https://www.foxnews.com/us/texas-judge-blocks-release-uvalde-elementary-school-shooting-records-regarding-state-police-response
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Re: Uvalde Coverup
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2022, 08:46:44 AM »
I know you want a smoking gun, but as of yet, there ain't one. Because of the magnitude of this school shooting, loss of life (21), number of officers involved (almost300), ect, the complete investigation is far from over.

When the Texas Rangers complete their investigation fully, of everything, and everyone there, THEN, it will be released in its entirety, and not one second before.
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Re: Uvalde Coverup
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2022, 08:49:11 AM »
I know you want a smoking gun, but as of yet, there ain't one. Because of the magnitude of this school shooting, loss of life (21), number of officers involved (almost300), ect, the complete investigation is far from over.

When the Texas Rangers complete their investigation fully, of everything, and everyone there, THEN, it will be released in its entirety, and not one second before.

I'll believe that when I see it.
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Re: Uvalde Coverup
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2022, 08:51:31 AM »
I know you want a smoking gun, but as of yet, there ain't one. Because of the magnitude of this school shooting, loss of life (21), number of officers involved (almost300), ect, the complete investigation is far from over.

When the Texas Rangers complete their investigation fully, of everything, and everyone there, THEN, it will be released in its entirety, and not one second before.

I'll believe that when I see it.

But you believe the news media? :-\
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Re: Uvalde Coverup
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2022, 08:52:22 AM »
I know you want a smoking gun, but as of yet, there ain't one. Because of the magnitude of this school shooting, loss of life (21), number of officers involved (almost300), ect, the complete investigation is far from over.

When the Texas Rangers complete their investigation fully, of everything, and everyone there, THEN, it will be released in its entirety, and not one second before.

I'll believe that when I see it.

Yeah me too. If there is something that needs covering up. Its going to get covered up.
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« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2022, 09:28:01 AM »
I know you want a smoking gun, but as of yet, there ain't one. Because of the magnitude of this school shooting, loss of life (21), number of officers involved (almost300), ect, the complete investigation is far from over.

When the Texas Rangers complete their investigation fully, of everything, and everyone there, THEN, it will be released in its entirety, and not one second before.

I'll believe that when I see it.
I know you want a smoking gun, but as of yet, there ain't one. Because of the magnitude of this school shooting, loss of life (21), number of officers involved (almost300), ect, the complete investigation is far from over.

When the Texas Rangers complete their investigation fully, of everything, and everyone there, THEN, it will be released in its entirety, and not one second before.

I'll believe that when I see it.

Yeah me too. If there is something that needs covering up. Its going to get covered up.

I genuinely find it strange that while both of you live roughly 1,300 miles from Uvalde Texas, that you're both sure of there being a cover up, while most Texans agree that the investigation while painfully slow, will reveal documentation as to who did, or didn't do what.
Both of you have vehemently expressed your distrust of the news media many times over the years, but suddenly are willing to believe an unsubstantiated claim of unproven information.

I'm not taking exception, nor offense to y'all claims, am just amazed at your apparent trust/distrust of media being selective from story to story.  :-\
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« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2022, 12:19:07 PM »
When the rangers finish up then the public will get the right story, not something dreamed up by the news services.
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Re: Uvalde Coverup
« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2022, 12:37:12 PM »
When the rangers finish up then the public will get the right story, not something dreamed up by the news services.

Agreed, no such "coverup" stories are circulating down here where the shooting actually happened. And what would they cover up? There were at least a couple a hundred dash cams, and body cams there. Ya think 276 police officers are gonna all tell the same lie? :-\
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Re: Uvalde Coverup
« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2022, 02:09:15 PM »
I don't know where you come off with this ....You believe the news media crap Dee. I believe my eyes, and a lot of eyes saw what happened, when it was happening. FACT! Texas judge BLOCKS info release to the public. And BTW, what difference does it make that I'm 1300 miles from Tx, or you are a few hundred. I'm close enough to know, I saw a bunch of cowards that day in Uvaldi, and when I see a judge suppress information to the public, I tend to believe the investigation is about over. If not, I will be the first to tell the world my A-- is blackest.But don't try and insult my intelligence. I wouldn't do it to you.
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« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2022, 03:34:58 PM »
I don't know where you come off with this ....You believe the news media crap Dee. I believe my eyes, and a lot of eyes saw what happened, when it was happening. FACT! Texas judge BLOCKS info release to the public. And BTW, what difference does it make that I'm 1300 miles from Tx, or you are a few hundred. I'm close enough to know, I saw a bunch of cowards that day in Uvaldi, and when I see a judge suppress information to the public, I tend to believe the investigation is about over. If not, I will be the first to tell the world my A-- is blackest.But don't try and insult my intelligence. I wouldn't do it to you.

Not trying to insult anyone. Believe what you will.  ;)
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Re: Uvalde Coverup
« Reply #10 on: August 11, 2022, 09:17:22 PM »
Dont worry the cop haters are the ones in office. They wont hide a thing. What makes me scratch my head are the cop haters right here on this forum that wont even allow due process to take place. They like the libs want a lynching. I know what side im on. If there was wrong done then punish the ones responsible but to say that Texas or the government is covering this up is just silly.
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Re: Uvalde Coverup
« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2022, 01:29:45 AM »
Dont worry the cop haters are the ones in office. They wont hide a thing. What makes me scratch my head are the cop haters right here on this forum that wont even allow due process to take place. They like the libs want a lynching. I know what side im on. If there was wrong done then punish the ones responsible but to say that Texas or the government is covering this up is just silly.

Hating cops has nothing to do with it, and you continuously blame people here for hating cops, when all they are doing is calling it like it is. You seem to be still trying to stick up for a Ulvalde police force that clearly didn't do their job, and in fact were clearly a bunch of cowards.  You continuously say "If there was any wrong done". You must not have watched the video or you plain don't like what you saw in the video, and just ignore the evidence.   
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Re: Uvalde Coverup
« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2022, 01:47:29 AM »
I know you want a smoking gun, but as of yet, there ain't one. Because of the magnitude of this school shooting, loss of life (21), number of officers involved (almost300), ect, the complete investigation is far from over.

When the Texas Rangers complete their investigation fully, of everything, and everyone there, THEN, it will be released in its entirety, and not one second before.

I'll believe that when I see it.
I know you want a smoking gun, but as of yet, there ain't one. Because of the magnitude of this school shooting, loss of life (21), number of officers involved (almost300), ect, the complete investigation is far from over.

When the Texas Rangers complete their investigation fully, of everything, and everyone there, THEN, it will be released in its entirety, and not one second before.

I'll believe that when I see it.

Yeah me too. If there is something that needs covering up. Its going to get covered up.

I genuinely find it strange that while both of you live roughly 1,300 miles from Uvalde Texas, that you're both sure of there being a cover up, while most Texans agree that the investigation while painfully slow, will reveal documentation as to who did, or didn't do what.
Both of you have vehemently expressed your distrust of the news media many times over the years, but suddenly are willing to believe an unsubstantiated claim of unproven information.

I'm not taking exception, nor offense to y'all claims, am just amazed at your apparent trust/distrust of media being selective from story to story.  :-\

I never said there was a cover up. What I meant was if there is something that they feel needs covering up, it will get covered up.  A police force is just an arm of a government, and like state and federal governments there is corruption and incompetence within local governments also.  So Dee you don't have any opinions on something that happens outside of your area that you live?  I don't understand how not living near Uvalde subtracts one from having an opinion.  I think everyone watched the same video of the pathetic police response that you did. 
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Re: Uvalde Coverup
« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2022, 02:02:14 AM »
wasnt refering to you. theres one here thats been on the attack since before the brass even hit the ground. Absolutely detests police. Read my post. I said in black and white that if they are proven in court to have been cowards that hang them. But this is america and until judgement is passed they just like you are presumed innocent. Anything short of that would even justify the raid on trump and the lefts obsession with pronouncing him guilty of everything since he was elected with no due process. You are giving WAY to much power to the government. Way to much power to people like judges that swore to uphold the constitution and the letter of the law. EVERYONE has the right to due process and lumping these guys and girls altogether as cowards is just wrong. As for dee not judging. What makes you feel you can? All you saw was what was on the news too. We all know how badly news agencys spin doctor the news to fit there political agendas. I really  could care less if you want to jump down the throats of the supervisiors and polititians that were responsibe. What i shake my head at is the blanket condemation of EVERY cop that was there. Calling them all cowards. If your a soldier in battle and your co says to retreat you retreat. Its not your job or your right to do anything else. Lets see what orders were given and if those police followed orders or really were cowards that disobeyed orders to go in.
Dont worry the cop haters are the ones in office. They wont hide a thing. What makes me scratch my head are the cop haters right here on this forum that wont even allow due process to take place. They like the libs want a lynching. I know what side im on. If there was wrong done then punish the ones responsible but to say that Texas or the government is covering this up is just silly.

Hating cops has nothing to do with it, and you continuously blame people here for hating cops, when all they are doing is calling it like it is. You seem to be still trying to stick up for a Ulvalde police force that clearly didn't do their job, and in fact were clearly a bunch of cowards.  You continuously say "If there was any wrong done". You must not have watched the video or you plain don't like what you saw in the video, and just ignore the evidence.
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Re: Uvalde Coverup
« Reply #14 on: August 12, 2022, 02:11:35 AM »
I'm gonna step completely outta this one, as I cannot imagine what the Texas Rangers could "cover up", given all the information, and video footage that is already out there.
Like I said, wasn't trying to offend anyone.
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« Reply #15 on: August 12, 2022, 02:18:02 AM »
We both know if theres a coverup it wont be from the rangers or the local police depts with boots on the ground. It will come from much higher up. Politicians that could possibly loose there jobs.
I'm gonna step completely outta this one, as I cannot imagine what the Texas Rangers could "cover up", given all the information, and video footage that is already out there.
Like I said, wasn't trying to offend anyone.
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« Reply #16 on: August 12, 2022, 04:01:11 AM »
I'm done with this until the rangers finish and report their findings. Anything at this point is just speculation except for the video which shows total incompetence by most involved.

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« Reply #17 on: August 12, 2022, 04:28:06 AM »
well said
I'm done with this until the rangers finish and report their findings. Anything at this point is just speculation except for the video which shows total incompetence by most involved.
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Re: Uvalde Coverup
« Reply #18 on: August 13, 2022, 03:51:49 AM »
Dont worry the cop haters are the ones in office. They wont hide a thing. What makes me scratch my head are the cop haters right here on this forum that wont even allow due process to take place. They like the libs want a lynching. I know what side im on. If there was wrong done then punish the ones responsible but to say that Texas or the government is covering this up is just silly.


Well, we all know the government would never cover anything up.  I've been scratching my head as well Lloyd, trying to figure out who the cop haters on the forum are. What I have figured out is, on that terrible day in Texas, there were a bunch of well armed, sworn to protect the public Policemen who stood around sanitizing their hands while children were being slaughtered. That is a fact! Some may say, well they were waiting orders. if Firefighters were massed in a hallway with children trapped in a room on fire, would they would wait for their leaders to say when they could enter?


Report on Uvalde Shooting Finds ‘Systemic Failures’ in Police Response
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Vincent Salazar, center, grandfather of Layla Salazar, who was killed at Robb Elementary, holds a report released by the Texas House investigative committee on the shooting.
Vincent Salazar, center, grandfather of Layla Salazar, who was killed at Robb Elementary, holds a report released by the Texas House investigative committee on the shooting. Credit...Eric Gay/Associated Press

J. David GoodmanEdgar Sandoval
By J. David Goodman and Edgar Sandoval
July 17, 2022
HOUSTON — The first comprehensive assessment of the law enforcement response to the deadly school shooting in Uvalde, Texas, found that blame for the failure to swiftly confront the gunman rested not only with the school police chief, but also with the scores of state and federal officers who gathered at the deadly scene but did not act.

The 77-page report, released Sunday by a special Texas House committee, represented a broad indictment of police inaction at Robb Elementary School, citing “systemic failures” that left the school inadequately secured and the police officers who responded mired in confusion and bad information.

Nearly 400 officers responded to the school that day. Yet the decision to finally confront the gunman was made by a small group of officers, including specially trained Border Patrol agents and a deputy sheriff from a neighboring county, the report found, concluding that others at the scene could have taken charge and done so far earlier.




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« Reply #19 on: August 13, 2022, 10:11:52 PM »
firefighters too just like police work as a team. What would happen if 5 firetrucks all pulled up to a major fire and everyone on every truck started acting on there own because they had different ideas about what the best way to fight it would be. Even the firefighters that only had a years experience. Theres a chain of command. Just like the police and just like the military. Without it theres Kaos. Where this broke down was in the chain of command. Leaders failed to lead. No doubt some of it because with all this defund the police and the recent examples of cops being hung out to dry by the left. A cop today is probably scared to act if hes the only one acting. It just makes him the scapegoat in many cases. Im sure (and its sad) that some of them figured i have two choices. I can charge in and try to save those kids with gun fire and maybe ill shoot an innocent child and end up fired at best and at worse in prison or i can sit back and wait for my leader to make a decision and actually do his job. Problem was the leaders all had the same thoughts in there head and were waiting for there bosses to sign off and up the chain it went.

LIke i said the problem here lies with the decision makers at the very top. Most of them were probably like biden hiding in the basement. The police arent at fault here the leaders are and even more the liberals that crucified good police officers by throwing them to the wolves to get votes from the defund the police idiots. My guess is there was a hell of alot more good cops staged there biting at the bit to do something then ones standing around using hand sanitizer. If you think they should have went in alone then you surely werent in the military. If you think that would make one a hero remember most heros are dead and like i said if a couple went in theyd be more likely crucified  in the end for not following orders unless in a one in a hundred case everything went perfect. Keep in mind that in many eyes in this country today police arent much higher up on the scale then that shooter was. Then we have people here judging them and saying what theyd do that never risked more then a paper cut in there whole lifes. Surely never shot at or risked there lifes for others.

Its sad that the military missed out on some of the bad asses that make claims. I was fortunate to have a good leader. His words of advice to me was simple. He said you dont know what to do. Nobody that has been there and done that does. He said when shtf you tuck in behind me and do what i tell you. If you jump ahead of me i will shoot you personally. It was his job to lead not mine. The mistake here was with the leaders. There was absolutely no one that would take charge all the way up to the top. Why? Because alot of those people at the top are the candy ass liberals we hate. The fbi is getting hammered today. They are lead by garland. Do you not think those boots on the ground agents arent second guessing everything and afraid to do whats right??? Do you think the raid on trump was THEIR fault. Would you have walked away and refused to do what you were told if you had a wife and 3 kids that depended on you to feed them?? People need to be put to the gallows over this. My whole point is lets find out who was truely responsible for the inaction and quit stereotyping every cop that was there. That is exactly what the guilty ones want you to do. To spread the blame and repercussions around so they dont have to take it all themselves. Dont let them use those police as scapegoats for there inactions and incompetance.
Dont worry the cop haters are the ones in office. They wont hide a thing. What makes me scratch my head are the cop haters right here on this forum that wont even allow due process to take place. They like the libs want a lynching. I know what side im on. If there was wrong done then punish the ones responsible but to say that Texas or the government is covering this up is just silly.


Well, we all know the government would never cover anything up.  I've been scratching my head as well Lloyd, trying to figure out who the cop haters on the forum are. What I have figured out is, on that terrible day in Texas, there were a bunch of well armed, sworn to protect the public Policemen who stood around sanitizing their hands while children were being slaughtered. That is a fact! Some may say, well they were waiting orders. if Firefighters were massed in a hallway with children trapped in a room on fire, would they would wait for their leaders to say when they could enter?


Report on Uvalde Shooting Finds ‘Systemic Failures’ in Police Response
The decision to finally confront the gunman was made by a small group of officers and could have been made far earlier, the report found.

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Vincent Salazar, center, grandfather of Layla Salazar, who was killed at Robb Elementary, holds a report released by the Texas House investigative committee on the shooting.
Vincent Salazar, center, grandfather of Layla Salazar, who was killed at Robb Elementary, holds a report released by the Texas House investigative committee on the shooting. Credit...Eric Gay/Associated Press

J. David GoodmanEdgar Sandoval
By J. David Goodman and Edgar Sandoval
July 17, 2022
HOUSTON — The first comprehensive assessment of the law enforcement response to the deadly school shooting in Uvalde, Texas, found that blame for the failure to swiftly confront the gunman rested not only with the school police chief, but also with the scores of state and federal officers who gathered at the deadly scene but did not act.

The 77-page report, released Sunday by a special Texas House committee, represented a broad indictment of police inaction at Robb Elementary School, citing “systemic failures” that left the school inadequately secured and the police officers who responded mired in confusion and bad information.

Nearly 400 officers responded to the school that day. Yet the decision to finally confront the gunman was made by a small group of officers, including specially trained Border Patrol agents and a deputy sheriff from a neighboring county, the report found, concluding that others at the scene could have taken charge and done so far earlier.
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Re: Uvalde Coverup
« Reply #20 on: August 14, 2022, 03:22:36 AM »
I've had a good life with its usual ups and downs, and was fortunate to have 21 years of Law Enforcement in a tactical supervisory position, and I had the opportunity to work with some exceptional men, and some that shoulda been driving a bread truck.

The one thing I learned in life is people, are people, and no matter how you dress them, they're still just people. Police, firemen, bread truck delivery drivers. All, just people.

I also learned that regardless of what people say they would have done in any given situation, they most likely would not have. They usually will do what every body else is doing at the time, which is standing around watching, and waiting on somebody else to do something.

Armchair quarterbackin involves no risk, and one can comfortably discuss, chastise, criticize, condemn, and accuse from the safety of their very own familiar environment.
No actual experience, knowledge, or any other actual criteria required.

Armchair quarterbacks know! I mean, they just know. I don't know how they know, but they just know. You don't even have to ask'em.

But in the end, people are just people, no matter what they do, or how you dress'em. It's less than 1% that sometimes stand out.

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Re: Uvalde Coverup
« Reply #21 on: August 14, 2022, 05:23:14 AM »
https://www.statesman.com/story/opinion/columns/2022/07/12/uvalde-shooting-video-austin-american-statesman-editor-investigation-publish/65371937007/

1% is a little high for the action that day. Unless you count the parents that defied police orders and rushed in to save their youngsters life. There was zero% in that hallway that day. Someone left their Balls home that day. As far as armchair quarterbacking, some of us have trained to react in combat situtiations, and I believe our reactions would have been a little higher than 1%. I believe officers from your generation would have reacted differently. They are letting people into the LEO field today that might be better qualified to drive a bread truck. JMO


















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« Reply #22 on: August 14, 2022, 10:56:03 PM »
yup i detest them as much as liberals. What ive found is the ones that scream the loudest are usually the worst cowards when shtf.
I've had a good life with its usual ups and downs, and was fortunate to have 21 years of Law Enforcement in a tactical supervisory position, and I had the opportunity to work with some exceptional men, and some that shoulda been driving a bread truck.

The one thing I learned in life is people, are people, and no matter how you dress them, they're still just people. Police, firemen, bread truck delivery drivers. All, just people.

I also learned that regardless of what people say they would have done in any given situation, they most likely would not have. They usually will do what every body else is doing at the time, which is standing around watching, and waiting on somebody else to do something.

Armchair quarterbackin involves no risk, and one can comfortably discuss, chastise, criticize, condemn, and accuse from the safety of their very own familiar environment.
No actual experience, knowledge, or any other actual criteria required.

Armchair quarterbacks know! I mean, they just know. I don't know how they know, but they just know. You don't even have to ask'em.

But in the end, people are just people, no matter what they do, or how you dress'em. It's less than 1% that sometimes stand out.
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Re: Uvalde Coverup
« Reply #23 on: August 15, 2022, 07:11:36 AM »
Don't think I have ever met anyone in my almost 80 yrs that haven't done some so called armchair quarter backing. We all have opinions, and make those based on how we view or see things. LOL You could be an exception Lloyd. Perhaps your just an exceptional person.
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« Reply #24 on: August 15, 2022, 10:14:05 AM »
nope we all do it. I just make exceptions for people that are brave enough to risk getting killed for me and my family. Ask me about some shady politician or a football game and ill do some armchair quarterbacking. But those who have never had bullets fly over there head or have put there ass on the line for someone else have a special place in my heart and ill defend them to the end. At least until you can show me one cop who was told to go in there that refused.

Don't think I have ever met anyone in my almost 80 yrs that haven't done some so called armchair quarter backing. We all have opinions, and make those based on how we view or see things. LOL You could be an exception Lloyd. Perhaps your just an exceptional person.
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Re: Uvalde Coverup
« Reply #25 on: August 15, 2022, 12:49:54 PM »
nope we all do it. I just make exceptions for people that are brave enough to risk getting killed for me and my family. Ask me about some shady politician or a football game and ill do some armchair quarterbacking. But those who have never had bullets fly over there head or have put there ass on the line for someone else have a special place in my heart and ill defend them to the end. At least until you can show me one cop who was told to go in there that refused.

Don't think I have ever met anyone in my almost 80 yrs that haven't done some so called armchair quarter backing. We all have opinions, and make those based on how we view or see things. LOL You could be an exception Lloyd. Perhaps your just an exceptional person.



Point being Lloyd....They were there, and did nothing. If they need to be told when to walk, when to talk, when to shoot or not to shoot, they need to be told to find a job more fitting their Ball size. If your child was in that slaughter house that day, would you be happy with their performance?
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Re: Uvalde Coverup
« Reply #26 on: August 15, 2022, 01:29:40 PM »
nope we all do it. I just make exceptions for people that are brave enough to risk getting killed for me and my family. Ask me about some shady politician or a football game and ill do some armchair quarterbacking. But those who have never had bullets fly over there head or have put there ass on the line for someone else have a special place in my heart and ill defend them to the end. At least until you can show me one cop who was told to go in there that refused.

Don't think I have ever met anyone in my almost 80 yrs that haven't done some so called armchair quarter backing. We all have opinions, and make those based on how we view or see things. LOL You could be an exception Lloyd. Perhaps your just an exceptional person.

Well Lloyd, the deed was done by very sick, demented individual on June 24th.

Note! Not one single poster is upset with the Uvalde Independent School District who didn't do one single thing to secure the school grounds and building.

Note! Not one single poster is upset with Robb Elementary school teachers, and staff, for failing to lock ANY DOORS, outside, or inside doors.

Note! Not one single poster is upset that had The Uvalde Independent School  District heeded STATE RECOMMENDED SECURITY SUGGESTIONS THIS AWFUL MASSACRE "LIKELY" WOULD HAVE NEVER HAPPENED.

Note! Not one single poster concerning this last scenario, "EVER" MENTIONS IT!

SO! as in Daniel, "the handwriting is on the wall". They don't really want to talk about the "REAL CAUSES". They want to point fingers.

But for every finger they point, there are three pointed back at the accusers themselves, whose thought process is so shallow, that the obvious INITIAL PROBLEMS,  ARE IGNORED, in favor of the more easily accused.

So Lloyd. After more than 2 months have passed, anything said, is a re-run of only the most obvious, while the ACTUAL CAUSES, remains ignored, and UNDISCUSSED!

Police officers are easier to accuse, and lambast, than faceless school board members, teachers, and staff, AND A TOTAL LACK OF SCHOOL SECURITY POLICY.

Nobody  wants to talk about that.  It's boring.  8)
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Re: Uvalde Coverup
« Reply #27 on: August 15, 2022, 05:17:33 PM »
nahh, we blame the schools and the school boards and the teachers and the leftists and when the cavalry arrives they are equaly useless... Just like those defending inaction...

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Re: Uvalde Coverup
« Reply #28 on: August 15, 2022, 10:22:25 PM »
yup dee. Have you noticed that the ones here that want to hang those cops out to dry never said a bad word about the nut case that actually did it. They want to blow off any blame the schools and there staff had to do with it. Sound alot like the liberals pushing to defund the police. Use a tragedy  like this to make all cops look bad. Same ones would have probably been spitting on soldiers coming back from Nam. (censored word) hard to tell whos really a conservative and whos a liberal on here sometimes. There like the gun owner that doesnt care about new gun laws that effect the guys i like and sell them down the road because they have no interest in them. But wow be when they want to take the guns they like. My guess is they will bash the cops but would be the first one to call 911 when they needed them. Thats another tough thing our police have to put up with. They have to defend idiots and cop haters with there lives even though tommarow they will spit on them or try to sue them for not being perfect. Differnce in if they were there vs those cops isnt that there would have been action. More like the local store would have been sold out on depends. 
nope we all do it. I just make exceptions for people that are brave enough to risk getting killed for me and my family. Ask me about some shady politician or a football game and ill do some armchair quarterbacking. But those who have never had bullets fly over there head or have put there ass on the line for someone else have a special place in my heart and ill defend them to the end. At least until you can show me one cop who was told to go in there that refused.

Don't think I have ever met anyone in my almost 80 yrs that haven't done some so called armchair quarter backing. We all have opinions, and make those based on how we view or see things. LOL You could be an exception Lloyd. Perhaps your just an exceptional person.

Well Lloyd, the deed was done by very sick, demented individual on June 24th.

Note! Not one single poster is upset with the Uvalde Independent School District who didn't do one single thing to secure the school grounds and building.

Note! Not one single poster is upset with Robb Elementary school teachers, and staff, for failing to lock ANY DOORS, outside, or inside doors.

Note! Not one single poster is upset that had The Uvalde Independent School  District heeded STATE RECOMMENDED SECURITY SUGGESTIONS THIS AWFUL MASSACRE "LIKELY" WOULD HAVE NEVER HAPPENED.

Note! Not one single poster concerning this last scenario, "EVER" MENTIONS IT!

SO! as in Daniel, "the handwriting is on the wall". They don't really want to talk about the "REAL CAUSES". They want to point fingers.

But for every finger they point, there are three pointed back at the accusers themselves, whose thought process is so shallow, that the obvious INITIAL PROBLEMS,  ARE IGNORED, in favor of the more easily accused.

So Lloyd. After more than 2 months have passed, anything said, is a re-run of only the most obvious, while the ACTUAL CAUSES, remains ignored, and UNDISCUSSED!

Police officers are easier to accuse, and lambast, than faceless school board members, teachers, and staff, AND A TOTAL LACK OF SCHOOL SECURITY POLICY.

Nobody  wants to talk about that.  It's boring.  8)
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Re: Uvalde Coverup
« Reply #29 on: August 16, 2022, 01:21:28 AM »
I think it's just human nature to blame what you can see, rather than the "root cause" that you can't see. The news media immediately targeted the highly visab police, and totally ignored the "root cause", which was The Uvalde Independent School District.

Note: Not one school book member interviewed, and not one principal, or teacher at Robb Elementary interviewed by the news media.

People usually follow the "direction" the media leads them, and its always effective.
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