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The IRS won't be going after rich guys.
« on: August 17, 2022, 04:19:01 PM »
Looks like Gates may have bought Manchin's vote.

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« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2022, 04:17:47 AM »

I haven't seen any action in DC in years that would benefit the common man. If it isn't set up for the rich and powerful, it isn't passed. There isn't any reason to double the size of the IRS and arm them other than to come after the middle class, and believers in the 2nd amendment.
They will become Federal LEO'S. I won't say anything negative about them because I will again be called a Cop hater by someone. They will be COPS by definition. Power to cuff and stuff you. "But" That will only happen if you deserve it. ;)
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« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2022, 04:38:04 AM »
Many years ago before the advent of the ATF, the Internal Revenue Service was in charge of illegal alcohol enforcement, among other things.
My deceased FIL was arrested and sent to the penitentiary for running a whiskey still in Oklahoma. TWICE!

The arresting agency both times was  the IRS.

This isn't really anything new, but it does have a sinister tone given the way its coming about.

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« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2022, 04:46:33 AM »
The IRS currently audits almost all millionaires and billionaires.  They want to audit the middle class people, starting with those who itemize.  The are going to spend $1 to find a dime.  I don't think they are going to find the $300-$400 billion dollars they expect to find in unpaid taxes.  It is just a way to hassle the mostly Republican voters who are whats left of the middle class.  Rich elite are liberals who are already being audited, and the poor who are not audited and will not be audited. 
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« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2022, 05:10:54 AM »
Many years ago before the advent of the ATF, the Internal Revenue Service was in charge of illegal alcohol enforcement, among other things.
My deceased FIL was arrested and sent to the penitentiary for running a whiskey still in Oklahoma. TWICE!

The arresting agency both times was  the IRS.

This isn't really anything new, but it does have a sinister tone given the way its coming about.

We should not fear, but instead trust our gut. This ain't a good thing.
  Thats why the old moonshiners called them revenuers .

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« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2022, 05:14:48 AM »
  Senile Joe says he  hired the 87,000 new auditors, in addition to what they already have, to trap sneaky billionaires.. 
  Hey, there are only 700+ billionaires in the USA, so you already know who they will be putting the squeeze on !

  https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/billionaires-by-country

  Well, the billionaires all have teams of lawyers and accountants, working daily to see that the IRS has no wedge against them.  Besides, you can rest assured, that any conservative billionaire (such as Trump), has been gone over year after year, by the now weaponized, IRS.  Remember Lois Learner....

  So, who will they be hitting?  Suppose the auditor says to you.."you owe the government $1200."

   You say..  "No way, I went over my returns very carefully..that just can't be!"

   So, what is your alternative?  You can spend several thousand to hire lawyers to fight Sam...or just cave to the crooked demands..

  ..And don't think "it can't happen to a little fish like me"..  Here's an interesting commentary;

   https://trac.syr.edu/tracirs/latest/679/#:~:text=for%20Everyone%20Else-,IRS%20Audits%20Poorest%20Families%20at%20Five%20Times%20the%20Rate%20for,a%20whole%20during%20FY%202021.

 
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« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2022, 05:45:45 AM »
The problem is the tax code is so big, and confusing. Paying taxes should have been simplified decades ago with a flat tax system, or something simpler than the monster we got.  Then if it was simpler the IRS would have to be smaller, and we all know there is no arm of the government that ever reduced its size and power. 
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« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2022, 08:41:27 AM »
Just wait. Next they’ll claim every border jumper has an accounting degree and deserves a job and citizenship.

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« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2022, 10:31:08 AM »
Many years ago before the advent of the ATF, the Internal Revenue Service was in charge of illegal alcohol enforcement, among other things.
My deceased FIL was arrested and sent to the penitentiary for running a whiskey still in Oklahoma. TWICE!

The arresting agency both times was  the IRS.

This isn't really anything new, but it does have a sinister tone given the way its coming about.

We should not fear, but instead trust our gut. This ain't a good thing.
  Thats why the old moonshiners called them revenuers .

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« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2022, 10:33:33 AM »
The problem is the tax code is so big, and confusing. Paying taxes should have been simplified decades ago with a flat tax system, or something simpler than the monster we got.  Then if it was simpler the IRS would have to be smaller, and we all know there is no arm of the government that ever reduced its size and power.

Do away with the income tax, incorporate the flat tax, and abolish the IRS.
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« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2022, 10:49:07 AM »
We need to get rid of income tax.  Replace it with tariffs and sales tax.  A 1% federal sales tax can just about replace the income tax.  Then if you make it, or wait for sales, you can pay less tax.  From 1790 until 1913 we only had tariffs to pay of the government expenses.  After the Federal Reserve was established, they instituted an income tax on people making more than $10,000.  Wilson (a Democrat) said it would only tax the rich.  Well, it increased in WW1 and then again in WWII and never came back off. 

Tariffs can be used to help keep or bring back American manufacturing.  Sales taxes could not be put on food (from the grocery store) and on childrens clothes and shoes to help the poor, or maybe even school supplies. 

There is also a Federal excise tax on (rich peoples) goods, like tires, cars, diamond, gold jewelry, fur coats, etc.  It was though only rich people bought these things years ago.  They also never were removed once cars became commonplace. 

Trump had income taxes cut and added tariffs on imported Chinese goods.  Of course creepy Joe took it off, and had taxes raised again.  Income tax should either be flat with no deductions or with only your home or children as deductions.  Or it should only be 1% to have it in place for national emergencies and it could be raised for war, or stuff like the pandemic, but taken off immediately after a war is over and a pandemic is over.  I'm talking about a real pandemic that actually kills a lot of people.  Of course with the democrats there will always be some kind of national emergency to keep the taxes up, so even that may not work. 

A sales tax is something everyone sees and there would be more complaints if the tax was not spent the way they want it spent.  With income tax, it is taken out before you even get it and people don't notice it as much, because they look at the net, what they get to take home.  With sales tax, they see it every time they buy something and are more aware of it. 

In my state, the state sales tax is 4%.  Where I live, inside the city limits, the city gets another 4%, the county 2%, so it is 10% sales tax.  Our state income tax, however, is very low.  This tax is pretty high.  Again, our property tax and income taxes are low compared to other states.  Another problem, even if I lived in the county, most of the stores are in town, but the property tax would be somewhat lower. 
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« Reply #11 on: August 26, 2022, 03:56:25 AM »
Many years ago before the advent of the ATF, the Internal Revenue Service was in charge of illegal alcohol enforcement, among other things.
My deceased FIL was arrested and sent to the penitentiary for running a whiskey still in Oklahoma. TWICE!

The arresting agency both times was  the IRS.

This isn't really anything new, but it does have a sinister tone given the way its coming about.

We should not fear, but instead trust our gut. This ain't a good thing.

   The fight between moonshiners and the feds is almost as old as our nation.  George Washington Even dispatched troops to corral the moonshiners of chiefly, southwestern Pennsylvania.
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whiskey_Rebellion#:~:text=The%20Whiskey%20Rebellion%20(also%20known,the%20newly%20formed%20federal%20government.

  Many of them were Revolutionary War veterans, and Felt betrayed by the Feds.

  One has to understand their position.  They were far out in the frontier, and were scratching out their frontier farms.  In doing so, they were raising corn and other grains, but shipping tons of grain east, was out of the question.
  So, they distilled their crop into small measures that were more easily shipped and they figured their 'crops' should not be taxed any more than any other farmer's crops.
 
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« Reply #12 on: August 26, 2022, 04:26:13 AM »
Drank some moonshine once it was strong stuff. Poured some in a ceramic coffee cup and lit up, it cracked the cup to pieces.
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« Reply #13 on: August 26, 2022, 09:50:36 AM »
From Google:

Is the IRS a corporation?

Founded in 1862, the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) is a U.S. federal agency responsible for the collection of taxes and enforcement of tax laws.

What Is the Internal Revenue Service (IRS)?
The Internal Revenue Service (IRS) is a U.S. government agency responsible for the collection of taxes and enforcement of tax laws (such as the wash sale rule).
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 Established in 1862 by then-President Abraham Lincoln, the agency operates under the authority of the U.S. Department of the Treasury, and its primary purpose is the collection of individual income taxes and employment taxes. The IRS also handles corporate, gift, excise, and estate taxes.
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As of November 2021, the head of the IRS is Commissioner Charles P. Rettig, who was nominated to the post by then-President Donald Trump in 2018.
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 He oversees a workforce of about 80,000 and a budget of more than $11 billion.
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 A graduate of New York University, Rettig is the first commissioner since the 1990s to come to the job from a career in tax law rather than business management.
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KEY TAKEAWAYS
Founded in 1862, the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) is a U.S. federal agency responsible for the collection of taxes and enforcement of tax laws.
Most of the work of the IRS involves income taxes, both corporate and individual; it processed nearly 240 million tax returns in 2020.
More than 94% of tax returns were filed electronically in 2020.
After peaking in 2010, IRS audits have been on the decline each year.
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How Powerful Is The IRS?
How the Internal Revenue Service Works
Headquartered in Washington, D.C., the IRS services the taxation of all American individuals and companies. For fiscal year (FY) 2020 (Oct. 1, 2019, through Sept. 30, 2020), it processed more than 240 million income tax returns and other forms. During that period, the IRS collected more than $3.5 trillion in revenue and issued more than $736 billion in tax refunds (which included $268 billion in economic impact payments due to the COVID-19 pandemic).
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Individuals and corporations have the option to file income tax returns electronically, thanks to computer technology, software programs, and secure internet connections. The number of income tax returns that use e-file has grown steadily since the IRS began the program, and the overwhelming majority are now filed this way. During FY 2020, nearly 94.3% of all individual returns made use of the e-file option.
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 By comparison, only about 40 million out of nearly 131 million returns, or nearly 31%, used it in 2001.
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As of October 2021, just over 112 million taxpayers received their refunds through direct deposit rather than by a traditional paper check, and the average direct-deposited amount was $2,851.
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 Although the IRS recommends filing tax returns electronically, it does not endorse any particular platform or filing software.
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The IRS and Audits
As part of its enforcement mission, the IRS audits a select portion of income tax returns every year. For FY 2020, the agency audited 509,917 tax returns. This number breaks down to 0.63% of individual income tax returns and 1.0% of corporate tax returns. Around 72.6% of IRS audits occurred through correspondence, while 27.4% happened in the field.
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After rising to a peak in 2010, the number of audits has dropped steadily each year.
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 The amount of funding set aside for tax enforcement has declined by about 30% from 2010 to 2020, which indicates that even fewer audits should occur.
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Reasons for an IRS audit vary, but some factors may increase the odds of an examination. Chief among them is higher income.
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 In 2020, the audit rate for all individual income tax returns was 0.63%. However, for someone who made more than $10 million, it was 9.8%.
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Running your own business also carries greater risks. Individuals making $200,000 to $1 million in 2018 who didn’t file Schedule C (the form for the self-employed) had a 0.6% chance of being audited, vs. 1.4%—basically double—for those who did.
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Other red flags for an audit include failing to declare the right amount of income, claiming a higher-than-normal amount of deductions (especially business-related ones), making disproportionately large charitable donations compared to income, and claiming rental real estate losses.
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 No single factor determines who does or does not face an IRS audit each year.
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How to Interface with the IRS
By mail
There are numerous ways to contact the IRS. If you are filing a tax return by mail, your state of residence and whether or not you are expecting a tax refund will determine the address that you should use. There is a list on the IRS website.
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 If you are sending an application or a payment, there is also a list on the IRS website of mailing addresses depending on your purpose.
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By phone or online
Individuals who want assistance can phone (800) 829-1040, Monday through Friday, 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. Eastern time (ET), and there are other toll-free numbers for businesses and other purposes.
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 However, it can take some doing to reach an actual person. CPA Amy Northard has helpfully decoded the process on her blog, and it involves a lengthy series of responses you must make to automated questions. Investopedia has vetted it for accuracy.
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 For online assistance for a variety of questions, use the Interactive Tax Assistant on the IRS website.
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In person
You can also set up an in-person appointment by phone at your local IRS office.
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 The IRS website has a locator page into which you merely type your ZIP code to get the office location and phone number.
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Paying Your Taxes
You can pay your taxes to the IRS through an electronic transfer of funds from your bank account or by using a debit or credit card. Other methods include a same-day bank wire or an electronic funds withdrawal at the time that you e-file your return. If you are a business, or if you are making a large payment, you can use the Electronic Federal Tax Paying System, but you must first enroll in it.
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If you are not paying electronically, you have other options. You can mail in a personal check, cashier’s check, or money order. Make it payable to “U.S. Treasury,” and be sure that it contains the following information:
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Your name and address
Daytime phone number
Social Security number (the SSN shown first if it’s a joint return) or employer identification number
Tax year
Related tax form or notice number
You may pay in cash if you wish, you may, but never send cash through the mail. Instead, make an in-person appointment at an IRS Taxpayer Assistance Center by calling (844) 545-5640, Monday through Friday, 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. ET. You should call 30 to 60 days before the day when you want to pay.
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You can also pay cash at one of the IRS Retail Partners: 7-Eleven, ACE Cash Express, Casey’s General Stores, CVS Pharmacy, Family Dollar, Dollar General, Walgreens, Pilot Flying J, Speedway, Kum & Go, Stripes, Royal Farms, GoMart, and Kwik Trip. This involves first getting a payment code sent to you by the IRS via email, which you must present when making your payment. There is a limit of $1,000 per payment.
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When was the IRS first established?
The IRS was established in 1862 by then-President Abraham Lincoln, who instituted an income tax to pay for the Civil War. The tax was repealed in 1872, revived in 1894, and declared unconstitutional by the U.S. Supreme Court in 1895. In 1913, the 16th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution reinstated the federal income tax.
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What is the best way to file my tax return?
It’s best to file your taxes electronically, which 94.3% of taxpayers did in 2020. You can still file a paper return by mail, but doing so will delay your receipt of any refund.

How can I pay my taxes?
The most popular way to pay your taxes is by electronic transfer, either directly from your bank account or through a debit or credit card. However, you can also pay by check or money order, and you can even pay in person—using cash if you wish.

How likely is it that the IRS will audit my taxes?
In 2020, the audit rate for individual tax returns was 0.63%. However, your chances go up if you make big bucks. The 2020 rate for people making $10 million or more was 9.8%. However, no one single factor determines whether or not the IRS will audit you.



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« Reply #14 on: August 26, 2022, 10:04:51 AM »
Biden is weaponizing the IRS, or already has.
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« Reply #15 on: August 27, 2022, 02:17:32 AM »
yup do away with income tax, alcohol tax, gas tax and the rest of them and put an 8 percent sales tax on everything. Give the states half of it and the fed gov the other half. That way if you want the rich to be taxed they will be on everything. Even there yachts and private jets and the fuel for them. That way too if they let inflation get out of control they are paying more just like us. No more tax breaks or deductions or tax shelters for anyone. If you make more you spend more and pay more taxes. simple as that. If the feds cant live off of 4 percent of everything every person buys in this country they should reorganize. Id also like to see a set pay scale for government officials and no more perks like expense accounts or writing off everything they buy. Some may say youd get poorer quality congressmen ect if the wage was capped at say a 100k a year. But my way of thinking is wed be more likely to get a few good old boys in office instead of crooked lawyers and career politicians
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« Reply #16 on: August 27, 2022, 02:25:49 AM »
tell you another thing that pisses me off. Cars and trucks. You buy a new car you have to pay sales tax. Then pay for a plate every year. If that car is sold 5 times in its lifetime the state gets sales tax on the same vehicle 5 times. Then every time you drive it you pay gas tax. Fix it or buy new tires and you pay sales tax. Id bet some vehicles over there lifetime bring in more tax money then they cost. There should be no tax buying a used car or truck.
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« Reply #17 on: August 27, 2022, 07:33:22 AM »
Shouldn't be any tax on a lot of
things. The gubmint got used to
having big piles of money rolling
in to spend at their discretion, so
realistically we all know they aren't
going to settle for less than they're
getting now

I was discussing this with someone
and hunting and such was brought up
and the other party wasn't aware that
proceeds from gun and ammo sales
and licensing and other things is what
has paid for the bounty of fish and
wildlife we have today, not the taxpayer
money. In other words, all the cutesy
pie animals that the yuppies want to
hold and hug and ooh and ahh over
were bought and paid for by hunters
and fishermen that want to eat them,
NOT by the save-a-kittycat foundation
you see on television

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« Reply #18 on: August 27, 2022, 07:38:57 AM »
The folks that these people will be targeting will be the small business owners. Many have a cash part of their business that goes unreported. The government will spend a dollar to get a dime.
99% of all Lawyers give the other 1% a bad name. What I find hilarious about this is they are such an arrogant bunch, that they all think they are in the 1%.

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« Reply #19 on: August 27, 2022, 08:15:11 AM »
Potentially 87,000 more Democratic votes for those that do as they are told and wish to keep their jobs.

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« Reply #20 on: August 27, 2022, 08:49:44 AM »
Taxes in general have gotten out of hand--particularly property taxes in some places are just nuts.  I know from personal experience that property taxes are bordering on confiscation.  Homes that just a few years ago were considered to be modest family homes are now easily pushing the $1,000,000 plus category. 

It is very apparent that law makers--in particular Democratic lawmakers have no common sense and can't restrain themselves from taxing and spending all out of proportion to what average people can afford.  About 60 years ago my wife and I purchased a brand-new home in a housing development that was affordable.  I was only a couple of years into my job, so we didn't splurge and go for something we could barely make the payments on.  Over the years I added on some additions, and we decided there was no point in relocating.  Now our humble abode is appraised at 35 times what it cost us when it was new.  The property taxes have increased at least by about the same factor.  I've been retired for 20 years and kind of on a fixed income.  It really makes one wonder what the hell these people in government use for a brain and what they live in.

I will admit that our federal income tax has been adjusted downward quite a bit under Trump.  Our state has no income tax, but the stinking Democrats keep trying to bring it on.  Who are the dumb asses who keep voting for these idiot Dummycrats.
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« Reply #21 on: August 27, 2022, 09:44:53 AM »
In the store and a large black woman was muttering to herself about seasoning packets, so I commiserated and said the garlic powder was .99 cents now it’s 2.49. I said remember this when you vote. She was speechless...

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« Reply #22 on: August 27, 2022, 02:20:18 PM »
Taxes in general have gotten out of hand--particularly property taxes in some places are just nuts.  I know from personal experience that property taxes are bordering on confiscation.  Homes that just a few years ago were considered to be modest family homes are now easily pushing the $1,000,000 plus category. 

It is very apparent that law makers--in particular Democratic lawmakers have no common sense and can't restrain themselves from taxing and spending all out of proportion to what average people can afford.  About 60 years ago my wife and I purchased a brand-new home in a housing development that was affordable.  I was only a couple of years into my job, so we didn't splurge and go for something we could barely make the payments on.  Over the years I added on some additions, and we decided there was no point in relocating.  Now our humble abode is appraised at 35 times what it cost us when it was new.  The property taxes have increased at least by about the same factor.  I've been retired for 20 years and kind of on a fixed income.  It really makes one wonder what the hell these people in government use for a brain and what they live in.

I will admit that our federal income tax has been adjusted downward quite a bit under Trump.  Our state has no income tax, but the stinking Democrats keep trying to bring it on.  Who are the dumb asses who keep voting for these idiot Dummycrats.

My parents are now both deceased, and they paid property taxes all their life. Now comes the time that I and my brothers have to pay the inheritance tax requested by the state.  Talk about confiscation. You truly are punished by the state and federal governments if you work for a living, and own anything.  There is no efficiency in spending when states, boroughs, and townships are spending other peoples money. If they run out, all they have to do is create another tax or raise taxes.
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« Reply #23 on: August 28, 2022, 01:50:56 AM »
amazingly in this liberal run state we dont have inheritance tax but our sales tax is 7 percent so there just getting it another way.
Taxes in general have gotten out of hand--particularly property taxes in some places are just nuts.  I know from personal experience that property taxes are bordering on confiscation.  Homes that just a few years ago were considered to be modest family homes are now easily pushing the $1,000,000 plus category. 

It is very apparent that law makers--in particular Democratic lawmakers have no common sense and can't restrain themselves from taxing and spending all out of proportion to what average people can afford.  About 60 years ago my wife and I purchased a brand-new home in a housing development that was affordable.  I was only a couple of years into my job, so we didn't splurge and go for something we could barely make the payments on.  Over the years I added on some additions, and we decided there was no point in relocating.  Now our humble abode is appraised at 35 times what it cost us when it was new.  The property taxes have increased at least by about the same factor.  I've been retired for 20 years and kind of on a fixed income.  It really makes one wonder what the hell these people in government use for a brain and what they live in.

I will admit that our federal income tax has been adjusted downward quite a bit under Trump.  Our state has no income tax, but the stinking Democrats keep trying to bring it on.  Who are the dumb asses who keep voting for these idiot Dummycrats.

My parents are now both deceased, and they paid property taxes all their life. Now comes the time that I and my brothers have to pay the inheritance tax requested by the state.  Talk about confiscation. You truly are punished by the state and federal governments if you work for a living, and own anything.  There is no efficiency in spending when states, boroughs, and townships are spending other peoples money. If they run out, all they have to do is create another tax or raise taxes.
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Re: The IRS won't be going after rich guys.
« Reply #24 on: August 29, 2022, 02:15:59 AM »
tell you another thing that pisses me off. Cars and trucks. You buy a new car you have to pay sales tax. Then pay for a plate every year. If that car is sold 5 times in its lifetime the state gets sales tax on the same vehicle 5 times. Then every time you drive it you pay gas tax. Fix it or buy new tires and you pay sales tax. Id bet some vehicles over there lifetime bring in more tax money then they cost. There should be no tax buying a used car or truck.

      Not only that, but consider sales tax, by those states which have it !

  Say your state sales tax is 8%..  So Except for a certain few items that are tax-free, for each dollar in the state, iF it is spent 13 times, they get $1.04...   More than the dollar itself, in taxes..
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