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Mosquito Repellent
« on: August 23, 2022, 12:30:44 PM »
What are people using to keep mosquitoes away? I’ve sworn by Off Clip-Ons when working in my garage or yard, but just found out they discontinued it. I hate using sprays and topicals.

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« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2022, 12:56:43 PM »
What are people using to keep mosquitoes away? I’ve sworn by Off Clip-Ons when working in my garage or yard, but just found out they discontinued it. I hate using sprays and topicals.
At least 40% deet... Or just stay inside til 1/2 hour after daylight and go in a bit before sundown. Ya still may get a bite or two.

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« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2022, 02:18:58 PM »
Yes, deet works about as good as anything. The higher percentages of deet do not necessarily work better, but for a longer period of time. For example a product with 20% deet will protect you the same as a product with 40% deet. The 20% just won't protect you as long as the 40% will.  Its said that anything over 50% does not increase your time of protection.

Another product that is said to be as good as deet is Picaridin. I just bought a can of it and am going to use it for protection against biting flies. Mostly the stable fly.  I'm going on a bike ride up around Welsboro and in August the stable flies can be bad in that area. Picaridin supposedly works just as well as deet for mosquitos, but is said to maybe work a bit better protecting against biting flies.
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Re: Mosquito Repellent
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2022, 02:25:20 PM »
Yes, deet works about as good as anything. The higher percentages of deet do not necessarily work better, but for a longer period of time. For example a product with 20% deet will protect you the same as a product with 40% deet. The 20% just won't protect you as long as the 40% will.  Its said that anything over 50% does not increase your time of protection.

Another product that is said to be as good as deet is Picaridin. I just bought a can of it and am going to use it for protection against biting flies. Mostly the stable fly.  I'm going on a bike ride up around Welsboro and in August the stable flies can be bad in that area. Picaridin supposedly works just as well as deet for mosquitos, but is said to maybe work a bit better protecting against biting flies.

I was in a part of Kentucky years back and the flies there treated deet like it was a desert topping...

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« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2022, 02:51:23 PM »
Yes, deet works about as good as anything. The higher percentages of deet do not necessarily work better, but for a longer period of time. For example a product with 20% deet will protect you the same as a product with 40% deet. The 20% just won't protect you as long as the 40% will.  Its said that anything over 50% does not increase your time of protection.

Another product that is said to be as good as deet is Picaridin. I just bought a can of it and am going to use it for protection against biting flies. Mostly the stable fly.  I'm going on a bike ride up around Welsboro and in August the stable flies can be bad in that area. Picaridin supposedly works just as well as deet for mosquitos, but is said to maybe work a bit better protecting against biting flies.

I was in a part of Kentucky years back and the flies there treated deet like it was a desert topping...

I've heard there are flies that deet doesn't stop. I think the black flies that hatch out in the spring up north and in Canada are one of the flies that are pretty vicious. 
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Re: Mosquito Repellent
« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2022, 03:32:24 PM »
Vanilla extract, pine, or lavender oil repels biting black flies and mosquitoes too. Herbs like anise, basil, cedarwood, coriander, lemongrass, and mint may work to repel black flies and can be planted in flower boxes or pots and around the edges of your yard. Garlic plants are also reported to have a repelling effect.
I have been told by many medical people Garlic or food tat contains a lot doe repel insects.

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Re: Mosquito Repellent
« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2022, 05:30:11 PM »
I find the best way to avoid mosquitoes is to not let them have anywhere to breed. They will not travel far from where they hatch out. My pond is perhaps 150 yards from my house, they will not travel that far.

If you police up all things water can stand in for them to lay eggs you won't have them to worry about. You might not own enough land you have control over to effectively do this but for me it's the way to deal with them.


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Re: Mosquito Repellent
« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2022, 11:15:26 PM »
I use the floating wafers in my pond but its a realitively small pond. For spray ive been using off for ticks. (we have them too and there bad in the summer at camp) It seems to work on ticks and seems to work even better then the regular off on mosquitos. Ive yet to find anything that totaly stops those pesky small biting flys though.
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Re: Mosquito Repellent
« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2022, 12:13:58 AM »
PERMETHRIN is your friend. Through incidental contact, Permethrin KILLS biting insects with its induced hyper-activity (OD) of the insect central nervous system.

Permethrin is a synthetic derivative of the Chrysanthemum flower and can be found in concentrated form as "Hi-Yield 38" (38% Permethrin), or higher, on the WWW and local hardware store.  The US Army uses 0.50% permethrin concentrate on its Deep Jungle clothing. Florida Cattlemen drive their herds through "permethrin ponds" to control flies and ticks.  Here is more ==>  http://npic.orst.edu/factsheets/PermGen.html

It is recommended to dilute permethrin concentrate - with water - to 0.50% permethrin in solution.  Sixteen (16) ounces of Hi-Yield 38 makes 9.5-gallons of 0.50% concentrate. 

Hi-Yield 38 product label:  https://pestcontroloutlet.com/content/HiYield38.pdf

Spray 0.50% solution on exterior screens, yards, walls, t-shirt on the dog, etc., but not on skin.  Enzymes in the skin break down permethrin, rendering it ineffective. 

Permethrin is not harmful to humans or dogs, cats though are "sensitive".  Let it dry before allowing cats to walk on any surface treated with permethrin.  In seven years of indoor life and in that, floors, base boards, screened porch spraying with permethrin, there have been zero ill effects with my four (4) cats.  I would NOT approve of permethrin if results with my cats had been otherwise.  Check the MSDS if you have any reservations:
http://www.diypesticides.com/msds/hi-yield_systemic_insect_spray_msds.pdf

Permethrin is quite effective at KILLING insects.  Deet, on the other hand, is effective at driving insects off and ruining some surfaces.
 
DEET is a plasticizer and can damage certain rubber, plastic, vinyl, or elastic materials such as contact lenses, eyeglass frames and lenses, watch crystals, combs, painted and varnished surfaces, and certain synthetic or treated fabrics.

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Re: Mosquito Repellent
« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2022, 12:38:36 AM »
Permethrin does work great for killing ticks. I treat all my hunting clothes with it.  I have also taped my pant legs to my boots.

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Re: Mosquito Repellent
« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2022, 12:40:25 AM »
This is from Maine.
They know black flies, mosquitoes, and deer flies up there.
This is what  you need...

https://www.oletimewoodsman.com/

Its the real deal.
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This makes sense. Since its a product that blocks how mosquitoes and flies pick up the carbon dioxide you give off.  The carbon dioxide your body gives off is what attracts mosquitos, and some people give off more.  I can be sitting out side at dusk with other people, and I'll be getting bit by mosquitos, and the others won't. 
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Re: Mosquito Repellent
« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2022, 12:59:22 AM »
I have found 0.50% permethrin works great for killing every insect that lands or crawls on a treated surface, including ticks (in particular), roaches, fleas (in particular), mosquitos (in particular), yellow flies, horse flies, house flies, No See Ums (in particular), just to name a few.  If you squirt them directly, wasps are not immune to permethrin.

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« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2022, 02:47:21 AM »
Lucky me. I haven't encountered a mosquito this year. Just another benefit of extreme drouth. We did get .9" of rain last Saturday which brings my yearly total to around 3.4 inches. W have had no standing water at all so hardly any bugs of any kind at all this year.

When we do have them I use Off which is fairly effective. I have found Viper to very effective at controlling bugs in and outside  my home.

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« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2022, 03:23:03 AM »
  Bill gave some sage advice, when he said we should allow them no nearby harbor.

       When much younger, I heard that vitamin B would help to repel mosquitoes and other biting insects, like tics.

   Even though when in a group, if anyone got bit, it would have been me, I still paid the tip no heed.

  As I grew older, my Doc included vitamin B12 (complex) in my daily meds.  I don't know if that did it, but I am no longer bothered so much by the pesky critters.

  https://www.justvitamins.co.uk/blog/taking-vitamin-b1-can-prevent-insect-bites-and-stings/

  Vitamin B1 is simple Thiamin, and it is hard to take too much, since any excess it seems, is flushed away in the
    urine.  As we age, a B12 complex is often beneficial..   (still, check with your doctor)
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« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2022, 03:46:24 AM »
  Bill gave some sage advice, when he said we should allow them no nearby harbor.

       When much younger, I heard that vitamin B would help to repel mosquitoes and other biting insects, like tics.

   Even though when in a group, if anyone got bit, it would have been me, I still paid the tip no heed.

  As I grew older, my Doc included vitamin B12 (complex) in my daily meds.  I don't know if that did it, but I am no longer bothered so much by the pesky critters.

  https://www.justvitamins.co.uk/blog/taking-vitamin-b1-can-prevent-insect-bites-and-stings/

  Vitamin B1 is simple Thiamin, and it is hard to take too much, since any excess it seems, is flushed away in the
    urine.  As we age, a B12 complex is often beneficial..   (still, check with your doctor)

Doctors generally don't agree on you taking something unless they are making money from it.
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« Reply #15 on: August 24, 2022, 05:22:55 AM »
  Bill gave some sage advice, when he said we should allow them no nearby harbor.

       When much younger, I heard that vitamin B would help to repel mosquitoes and other biting insects, like tics.

   Even though when in a group, if anyone got bit, it would have been me, I still paid the tip no heed.

  As I grew older, my Doc included vitamin B12 (complex) in my daily meds.  I don't know if that did it, but I am no longer bothered so much by the pesky critters.

  https://www.justvitamins.co.uk/blog/taking-vitamin-b1-can-prevent-insect-bites-and-stings/

  Vitamin B1 is simple Thiamin, and it is hard to take too much, since any excess it seems, is flushed away in the
    urine.  As we age, a B12 complex is often beneficial..   (still, check with your doctor)

Doctors generally don't agree on you taking something unless they are making money from it.

  Well, my doc doesn't make anything from my B12, because I buy it off the shelf at the drug store.

  In fact he doesn't make anything from my prescriptions either, since I get mine from the VA.

  BTW:  The vitamin B thing was only a suggestion..anyone can take it or trash it..I don't make a dime on
   that either..
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Re: Mosquito Repellent
« Reply #16 on: August 24, 2022, 07:13:12 AM »
Okay, thought I was, maybe I wasn’t clear. I’m not a fan of putting crap all over my skin if I can avoid it (just doing some work in my garage). That’s why I liked the Clip-Ons, clip it on your belt, pocket or whatever and it really worked. If I’m headed for the woods, I’m totally spraying down with something, just don’t want to wear it all day if I don’t have to.

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Re: Mosquito Repellent
« Reply #17 on: August 24, 2022, 10:58:27 AM »
Thermacel is a portable repellant, which works very well.  The "hack" of its propane fuel cell for reuse (YouTube) is financially pleasing.   The proprietary chemical in Thermacel is allethrin-based.

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Allethrin is a potent insecticide and is widely used as a mosquito repellent. Direct skin contact with allethrin causes itching, burning and tingling feeling. When inhaled, it may worsen asthma in individuals who suffer from the disease. In others, it may cause nausea, vomiting, diarrhea and coordination difficulties., or one of its derivatives.

I have sat on both deer stands and duck blinds for hours at a time with a Thermacel running and no biting insects.  It WILL cause pulmonary discomfort when inhaled, so always use in a well ventilated space.

Off, Repel, and Cutter, to name a few commercial repellants are Deet based.  Citronella is still sold in a 1/4" green (as I remember it) coil that is ignited on one end, burns slowly (pictured over 150 hours), and the smoke is laden with the insecticide, which drive bugs away.


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Re: Mosquito Repellent
« Reply #18 on: August 24, 2022, 12:17:05 PM »
If you don't like the commercial
lotions and aerosols, find a source
for wax myrtle or beauty berry.
No wax myrtle close by, but I
use beauty berry leaves all the
time.  I rub any exposed skin
including my face with the crushed
leaves, and if I'm wearing a hat
I'll crush up a couple of leaves
to put under my hat

FWIW, I  think Ben's is the better
commercial repellent
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« Reply #19 on: August 25, 2022, 01:40:21 AM »
Thermacel is a portable repellant, which works very well.  The "hack" of its propane fuel cell for reuse (YouTube) is financially pleasing.   The proprietary chemical in Thermacel is allethrin-based.

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Allethrin is a potent insecticide and is widely used as a mosquito repellent. Direct skin contact with allethrin causes itching, burning and tingling feeling. When inhaled, it may worsen asthma in individuals who suffer from the disease. In others, it may cause nausea, vomiting, diarrhea and coordination difficulties., or one of its derivatives.

I have sat on both deer stands and duck blinds for hours at a time with a Thermacel running and no biting insects.  It WILL cause pulmonary discomfort when inhaled, so always use in a well ventilated space.

Off, Repel, and Cutter, to name a few commercial repellants are Deet based.  Citronella is still sold in a 1/4" green (as I remember it) coil that is ignited on one end, burns slowly (pictured over 150 hours), and the smoke is laden with the insecticide, which drive bugs away.



I went on a spring black bear hunt in Canada a good many years ago, and a thermacell was the only thing that worked to keep the black flies and mosquitoes at bay. Still had to have a head net, wear double layers, and tape sleeves and pant legs. I vowed never to do another spring bear hunt ever again, because of the black flies and mosquitoes, and I never have, and never will.   
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« Reply #20 on: August 26, 2022, 03:46:28 PM »
Probably used the Nessmuck
bug mixture, or just covered up.
A good many of my relatives
and ancestors stayed fairly covered
head to toe most all year for
protection from the blazing sun
and critters and briars
Nobody ever wore shorts and
sandals and tank tops until
my generation
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