Britain's Queen Elizabeth dies peacefully at Scottish home aged 96

[phalanx]

I know that. But we did get into a war with japan and the UK joined us there.

Like I said. You need to brush up on your history. Japan and Germany were allies. Americans didn't want in WWII after losing so many in WWI.

So to provoke Japan, FDR cut off Japans oil supply knowing it would provoke them. He knew almost a month beforehand that Japan was going to attack, but kept it quiet, and intentionally didn't set up a defense against it.

As if i didn't know that.

He knew the attack would bring Americans around to agreeing to get into WWII, and once again bailout England, and the worthless French.

[phalanx]

Dee, my history is fine thank you. I never did say i didn't know what the Axis was, you just assumed i didn't.
You assumed wrong. We fought the Japanese in the Pacific theater after Pearl Harbor.

[Bob Riebe]

"We beat them in 1776 and they just went home."

But they didn't stay there and we had to whip their butt again in the war of 1812. Also the reason they were able to supply the engines was because we had supplied them with guns so they could hang around long enough for FDR to get us into WW II. FDR had an ulterior motive for getting us there as there we were still suffering the effects of the Great Depression.

The U.S. had zip to do with the Brits winning the Battle for Britain Date: 10 July – 31 October 1940;.
They defeated the German Air Force with their planes and their tactics.
FDR could not stop the Japanese from killing thousands in Hawaii much less have any thing to so with the U.K. winning that battle.

Before D-Day, U.S. was engaged in a cluster f--- in Italy:

The Allied campaign in Italy, launched with some optimism after the Allied victory in North Africa in 1943, turned into a brutal, protracted, and costly slog. American casualties at Anzio alone were 59,000. The difficult combat at places like Monte Cassino pushed many soldiers to their breaking point. After the Italian fascist regime fell from power and was replaced by a new government friendly to the Allies, the battle for Italy became an extended bloodletting between tenacious Allied troops and steadfast German forces. It ended only when the war in Europe ended. By then, more than 300,000 U.S. and British troops who fought in Italy had been killed or were wounded or missing. German casualties totaled around 434,000.

[Dixie-Dude]

General Clark was s l o w moving after they landed.  If they would have gone ahead and moved inland, they would have avoided the resulting bloodletting. 

[oldandslow2]

[/quote]The U.S. had zip to do with the Brits winning the Battle for Britain Date: 10 July – 31 October 1940;.
They defeated the German Air Force with their planes and their tactics.
FDR could not stop the Japanese from killing thousands in Hawaii much less have any thing to so with the U.K. winning that battle.

Before D-Day, U.S. was engaged in a cluster f--- in Italy:

The Allied campaign in Italy, launched with some optimism after the Allied victory in North Africa in 1943, turned into a brutal, protracted, and costly slog. American casualties at Anzio alone were 59,000. The difficult combat at places like Monte Cassino pushed many soldiers to their breaking point. After the Italian fascist regime fell from power and was replaced by a new government friendly to the Allies, the battle for Italy became an extended bloodletting between tenacious Allied troops and steadfast German forces. It ended only when the war in Europe ended. By then, more than 300,000 U.S. and British troops who fought in Italy had been killed or were wounded or missing. German casualties totaled around 434,000.
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Excuse me but how did a post about the Brits not staying home after 1776 and returning to make war on us in 1812 turn into a lesson about the Battle for Britain in WW II? All I said about WW II was that we sent guns which Britain asked for before we entered WW II and FDR wanting us in the war to end the depression. Read a little more closely and save yourself a lot of key strokes schooling me about a subject I never mentioned and has no bearing on my post. Have a nice day.

[Bob Riebe]

Excuse me but how did a post about the Brits not staying home after 1776 and returning to make war on us in 1812 turn into a lesson about the Battle for Britain in WW II? All I said about WW II was that we sent guns which Britain asked for before we entered WW II and FDR wanting us in the war to end the depression. Read a little more closely and save yourself a lot of key strokes schooling me about a subject I never mentioned and has no bearing on my post. Have a nice day.

You said: Also the reason they were able to supply the engines was because we had supplied them with guns so they could hang around long enough for FDR to get us into WW II.

The Merlin Engine has zip to do with FDR supplies, the guns, and ammunition on their aircraft also were all British made, and there was no land war where FDR supplied guns would have made a bit of difference so  hanging around  had nothing to do with the U.S..
The two items have zero relation, later in the war lend-lease made a difference but at the point you imply, zero affect.

[ironglow]

  The RR Merlin engine improved the P51 dramatically...  England received a few P51s with Allison engines from us.  However, they were about to write the P51 off as a fighter aircraft, when a couple technicians tried the new Merlin engine...which gave it a whole new level of performance.
   
   Now, back to the OP;

  The queen is dead..and these guys claim that much of the next generation a steeped in pedo stuff, with Charlie well into the greenie BS..
  You watch, you decide...  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWXnJbrqm5E

[Dixie-Dude]

FDR gave the Brits some old and slow ships in the Lend-Lease program.  This allowed us to start building newer ships.  The Brits paid us back for the supplies they bought before we got into the war in the 1960's.  The Russians were sent Sherman tanks, P-39 Air Cobras, Tommy guns, ammo, jeeps, and trucks in WWII.  They never paid us back.  We even gave the Russians older ships to help with invading Japan, but we used nukes to stop the war early.  The Brits became great allies after the war for independence and the War of 1812.  Just like Japan and Germany are our allies now. 

[Bob Riebe]

  The RR Merlin engine improved the P51 dramatically...  England received a few P51s with Allison engines from us.  However, they were about to write the P51 off as a fighter aircraft, when a couple technicians tried the new Merlin engine...which gave it a whole new level of performance.
   
   Now, back to the OP;

  The queen is dead..and these guys claim that much of the next generation a steeped in pedo stuff, with Charlie well into the greenie BS..
  You watch, you decide...  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWXnJbrqm5E

P-51, also called Mustang, a single-seat, single-engine fighter aircraft originally designed and produced by North American Aviation for the British Royal Air Force (RAF) and later adopted by the U.S. Army Air Forces (USAAF).

The major reason the original Allison engine was not better is it was a totally govt. controlled project; there were much better versions but engineers never were allowed the time or supplies to make the better version work better.
I have a book on the financial history of Curtiss Aircraft; they were the govt. major aircraft supplier , so they had to use the Allison engine, problem , you do as the govt. says even if it puts you out of business, or prevents better product.
Even the Allison V-12 that went into the P-82 was never the finished product it could have been as by then, jet engines were the future and Allison was never very good with them.

As for the original topic, my thread, it was simply the Queen , who was a fine lady has passed, God save the King, as he will need God's interfierence.