‘I don't want to die’: Exodus from Russia after Putin’s call-up for Ukraine war

[Bob Riebe]

https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20220922-i-don-t-want-to-die-exodus-from-russia-after-putin-s-call-up-for-ukraine-war

Just like Kruschev, Putin's days are numbered.

[Lloyd Smale]

have you not watched the news?? Hes calling up civilians. Going to towns with busses and forcing civilians you join the military. His approval rating?? thats a (censored word) laugh. His approval rating is whatever number he allows to be told. He no doubt gets those numbers by polling just who he wants or coming to a home with soldiers asking if they approve of him. You cant get an accurate poll number in a country that doesnt have free speech period. You will go to no end to sit that psychopath nut case on a pedestal. Inflation is nil?? Again you get the numbers he allows to be shown and i guess if you have nothing today and nothing tomorrow you cant have inflation. Ive posted this many times. If life is so good there what the hell is keeping you from hopping on a plane and going there to live? Why do you stay in a country as terrible as this when there a perfect utopia just a plane ride away.

[Dee]

Yeah, no training necessary. Just take this AK, and get in there. 

[Lloyd Smale]

they probably dont even have enough ak's. Just bodies to put out in front of the real soldiers as shields. He will probably stick them in spots there already losing just to slow down the ukraines while his real soldiers regroup and fight where he has a chance to accomplish something. Probably a moral boost for his regulars too. He will tell them "see what i did. I put those idiots in your place to die so you wont have to. its about like if china invaded the US and the president went to ucla and told all the liberal pacifists they had to stand up to the chinese regulars. It will be a slather. My guess is putin might just want to see a half million of his citizens killed. That way he might turn the rest of the country against the ukraine and claim they committed mass murder and war crimes. Plus its a half million less peopole he has to worry about feeding or revolting against him. 

Yeah, no training necessary. Just take this AK, and get in there. 

[billy_56081]

More than likely all fake.

[Lloyd Smale]

no, they interviewed actual russians that confirmed it. If this is a fake maybe theres some credence to the conspirsy theorists that say the moon landing was staged on a movie set.

More than likely all fake.

[billy_56081]

Sure it's all fact. He'll in 1991 they had better coverage of the gulf War, pretty much pre internet. 

[Bob Riebe]

More than likely all fake.

CBS news last night showed live the miles long line of cars trying to get the hell out of Russia so they did not end up fighting in The Ukraine.

[billy_56081]

More than likely all fake.

CBS news last night showed live the miles long line of cars trying to get the hell out of Russia so they did not end up fighting in The Ukraine.

CBS is such a reliable source of news!

Thanks for the laugh.

[Dee]

More than likely all fake.

CBS news last night showed live the miles long line of cars trying to get the hell out of Russia so they did not end up fighting in The Ukraine.

CBS is such a reliable source of news!

Thanks for the laugh.

It was on Fox, and Newsmax also.

[Lloyd Smale]

tell that to the ma they interviewed that said they came and took her son who wasnt a reserve and whos  brother already died in the war. She said they took 4 bus loads of people just from her small town and very few of them were reserves and some as old as 35 years old. I agree that alot of the people we would have to draft would pass the physical and educational minimums that todays military has in place but keep in mind those minimums are stricter today then they ever were. Its just a stroke of the pen to lower them. LOTS of viet nam draftees werent high school graduates. Many could barely read and write. Basicaly if you didnt have a medical exemption you were drafted and pushed through boot camp. They didnt care much about how many pushups you could do. It was even more lacks in ww2. If you could walk and had 4 limbs you were drafted. I do agree though that the first to be drafted should be the immigrants. Problem is theres so many here that nobody has a clue to who they are or where there at. I would also bet if we have ww3 and the democrats are in charge they will claim drafting even one of them is predudice. They will work out some under the table deal that has 90 percent of the draftees white men coming from red states. First change they need to make is to eliminate the college deferral. Never understood why going to college keeps you out of the draft. Youd think that the first people theyd want are the ones that have an education. Not the high school drop outs. Also women wanted equality in the military. So they should be treated equally under the draft.   

Pretty much disproven the run on airline tickets.
 The Kremlin voted a couple of weeks ago to call up some reserves. Military service is universal in Russia so they're re-calling reserves to active duty

Now if WW3 breaks out the USA would likely have to conscript, but the Pentagon says 75% of American youth can't pass the health, physical, or educational minimums.

Maybe all the young immigrant men they're bringing in is the answer...
..

[billy_56081]

Maybe, maybe not, who says this mother isn't an actor. 

[Dee]

Well,  if Pootun can't get enough youngsters to whip little Ukraine, he can always start that nuclear war he's been threatening everybody with. That'll show'em how tuff he is. 

[Bob Riebe]

CBS is such a reliable source of news!
Thanks for the laugh.

Did you know the Earth is flat?

[billy_56081]

CBS is such a reliable source of news!
Thanks for the laugh.

Did you know the Earth is flat?

Living in Southern Minnesota I can almost believe it.

[Mule 11]

CBS is such a reliable source of news!
Thanks for the laugh.

Did you know the Earth is flat?

Living in Southern Minnesota I can almost believe it.

If I lived in Kansas I’d believe it.

[Dee]

Well,  if Pootun can't get enough youngsters to whip little Ukraine, he can always start that nuclear war he's been threatening everybody with. That'll show'em how tuff he is. 

........................

Yeah, except whipping Ukraine was never the stated goal of the Kremlin from the start.

But now that's passed; and the new goal is to fight the war NATO and the west brought on.  That's how the situation morphed. Of course, you know what the goal of NATO and US has been all along.....as stated by Sec Austin and Biden Regime talking heads.
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Yeah, that "theory" is definitely worth Pootun starting a nuclear war.

[Mule 11]

Well,  if Pootun can't get enough youngsters to whip little Ukraine, he can always start that nuclear war he's been threatening everybody with. That'll show'em how tuff he is. 

........................

Yeah, except whipping Ukraine was never the stated goal of the Kremlin from the start.

But now that's passed; and the new goal is to fight the war NATO and the west brought on.  That's how the situation morphed. Of course, you know what the goal of NATO and US has been all along.....as stated by Sec Austin and Biden Regime talking heads.
..

Yeah, that "theory" is definitely worth Pootun starting a nuclear war.

Well, maybe you can give him some options since you are such a diplomat

[Dee]

Dee...

Russia's policy on use of nuclear weapons is published and well known. I'm sure you're very familiar with it.
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Nope, I'm not. But I'm familiar with open threats of starting a nuclear war if Pootun doesn't get his way in Ukraine. Pootun going nuclear over what he's afraid "might happen", but hasn't, is way over the top.

Nuthin justifies the killing of millions with nuclear weapons. He's starting to talk more like another Iranian Ayatollah.

[Dee]

So,  I see...Must be that's why Russia has been adamant for the last 10 years about Ukraine being neutral, unNATOed, and NATO not parking nukes on their border. Cuban missile crisis kinda of thing.

If you haven't read/understood the official Russian policy on use of nuclear weapons, then you're kinda shooting in the dark. But that's probably on par with the Ukraine occupied White House.
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Well of course. If I'm against using nuclear weapons in the Ukraine, I must be pro NATO.

[Lloyd Smale]

Ukraine was neutral and didnt start talking nato seriously until after putins attack. There was no nukes and are no nukes ont there border YET! When we responded to the russians during the cuban missle crisis there was nukes ON THE GROUND in cuba. BIG difference. This is more like if mexico or canada decided with russian or chinese or korean backing to invade our country because they wanted our natural resources and were murdering and raping inocent civilians and even bombing schools. As to if they had asperations of having nukes again. Whos to say. That said we are kissing up to iran and they have publicaly shown they have those intentions. They and korea are a heck of alot closer to russias borders then here. Why isnt russian condemning them?? They and china are even helping those countrys. This isnt about nukes on there border its about concurring and acquisitions that add money to PUTINS pocket and to help finance his end game and thats to be the most powerful country in the world and spread his borders everywhere. Even here. Now hop on an airplane and fly over there and bend over. We all know thats your end game and we know what end.   

So,  I see...Must be that's why Russia has been adamant for the last 10 years about Ukraine being neutral, unNATOed, and NATO not parking nukes on their border. Cuban missile crisis kinda of thing.

If you haven't read/understood the official Russian policy on use of nuclear weapons, then you're kinda shooting in the dark. But that's probably on par with the Ukraine occupied White House.
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[ironglow]

More than likely all fake.

CBS news last night showed live the miles long line of cars trying to get the hell out of Russia so they did not end up fighting in The Ukraine.

   I think we all should recall the same kind of lines, fleeing the Iron Curtain in 1989.  Putin was in the KGB
   at the time.

[ironglow]

More than likely all fake.

CBS news last night showed live the miles long line of cars trying to get the hell out of Russia so they did not end up fighting in The Ukraine.

CBS is such a reliable source of news!

Thanks for the laugh.

  CBS may not be reliable..but it is not at all difficult to Google "Russians fleeing to Ukraine", where you will find many news services saying the same thing..take your pick  Really, you should research beyond PRAVDA..    

   Reminds one of people fleeing Communist oppression in 1989.. 
  It seems the Russian troops are not reticent to fight somewhere, butto fight the Ukrainian people, is especially
   distasteful to them.

     Here, try another source...

  https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/sep/22/my-heart-sank-with-news-of-draft-russians-flee-in-droves

   

[Lloyd Smale]

ya think that might be because the russians and now iran have shut down the internet and any contact with news agencys. Even with that we have seen the russians fleeing the country. LOTS of them. Add to that in viet nam, deserty storm ect we had our own soldiers on the ground and that is the reason we had better coverage.

Sure it's all fact. He'll in 1991 they had better coverage of the gulf War, pretty much pre internet.

[Lloyd Smale]

Ironglow theres a couple on here that dont want the truth. They want some conspiracy theory and use those off the wall sites to try to look intelligent in there arguments. They very much resemble the left in that regards. They care more about making noise then seeing the real truth. They dont realize that most of us here are smart enough to know better and it just makes them look foolish.

More than likely all fake.

CBS news last night showed live the miles long line of cars trying to get the hell out of Russia so they did not end up fighting in The Ukraine.

CBS is such a reliable source of news!

Thanks for the laugh.

  CBS may not be reliable..but it is not at all difficult to Google "Russians fleeing to Ukraine", where you will find many news services saying the same thing..take your pick  Really, you should research beyond PRAVDA..    

   Reminds one of people fleeing Communist oppression in 1989.. 
  It seems the Russian troops are not reticent to fight somewhere, butto fight the Ukrainian people, is especially
   distasteful to them.

     Here, try another source...

  https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/sep/22/my-heart-sank-with-news-of-draft-russians-flee-in-droves

   

[Mule 11]

Well, some are fools here and that will show in the long run. If it’s me I’ll admit it, butt I don’t believe I’ll have crow for dinner...

[Lloyd Smale]

why arent the unkrane people screaming at the top of there lungs that the legit government they wanted in power was taken over by a coup and Zelensky, just a puppet of america was put in charge against there wiil. FACT is hes considered a hero by his people and his military and most of the free world. Dont try to tell me all that is squelched under zelensky. If there were protests or dissidents theres enough people in this country that think us aiding them is wrong that someone would be plastering it all over the news. It boggles the mind that you would say bs like that and worship putin. Your dammed lucky this is a free country and you can spout your anti america bs because if you were in russia spouting anti russian crap you be taken out in the woods and shot. 

Ukraine was not neutral. Victoria Nuland and Biden bragged about the coup to replace Moscow friendly government with western centric government. She even admitted the presence of many DoD  bio-labs. Ukraine has totally NATO based military. Genociding ethnic Russians is still going on. Tee shirt Zelenskyy has banned all opposition parties and his secret police routinely attack journalists critical to his regime. neo-Nazies routinely run roughshod on certain areas.
This and more are not signs of a democracy.

Keep being complicit with Biden's and WEF war making policies; and soon you too can have America turned into a black hole like Ukraine!
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