Mystery: Who blew up the GazProm pipelines?

[Lloyd Smale]

not only to fake a nato attack but an easy way for him to cut off gas to nato countrys without getting blamed for it. He knows cold people and out of work people will revolt and try to force nato to give in to the animal. It could likely cause even the end of nato. Sad thing is is that this IS THE TIME we need to put in place no holds barred production of oil in this country not only to drive our prices lower but to supply nato countrys so they dont back down. But its still silent on the liberal side. Still just talk of electric cars and solar and wind power. It not only hurts our pocket book now but will end the cooperation of our ally's and hand themselves over to putin and the middle east to get the oil they will desperately need. Right now oil production is just as important as military strength.   

Russia blew up nord stream to rally its citizens to fight NATO, by touting a fake by NATO attack on Nord stream.

Pootuns' popularity waines.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/19939292/putting-special-ops-sabotage-nordstrom-pipeline-nato/

[Lloyd Smale]

Dont know dee, but i do know that in a few months when the snow starts flying even a truck load of gas or oil will buy you alot of freinds even if they are only temporary freinds. It could buy him enough time to do what he wants to accomplish in Ukraine and thats to take over and rule over all of it as the brutal commy dictator he is. Scarry to think about it but the fact is the whole worlds security and economy revolves around our mid term election. If we dont win and start producing oil and spending money on our military instead of solar panels and electric cars the world is screwed

  In the long run blowing up the pipeline was a bad move , it's  now fair game and  puts everyone's  infrastructure on the table .

It was the plan. Damaged infrastructure will make people afraid, and do anything their government tells them to do. Which was proven through the covid scam.  Someone obviously thought it was a good move for them.

Roosevelt ALLOWED Japan to bomb Pearl Harbor to bring the American anti war population around to jumping into WWII.

Pootun may have well done the same in an effort to change a growing world opinion against him.

[DDZ]

There has been no democrat in the Biden regime or any of the republican establishment, or any European leader trying to bring an end to the war. They have all been funding it, and pushing for further escalation. With zero attempt to bring peace. Does it look like any part of our government has done, or said anything about ending the war? All I see is gas being thrown on the fire. We like to think the republicans have our best interests, but it appears to me most of them are part of throwing gas on the fire.   

[Mule 11]

worse then that they call you a liberal. Kind of hypoctritical from two guys that take every chance they have to praise putin and are the two most anti american posters on here. You sure hear very little pro america out of either of them.
 Ones crazy and the other hates everyone and everything.

  From TM;
  " It's amazing to see so-called conservatives here running cover for Joe, WEF, and the neocons."

   So, where am I "running cover" for slow-Joe?  I have sid time and again, that I have no use for either one of them..either Joe or Pootie..

  I just deplore seeing the suffering of so many Russians, Ukrainians and Americans, because of the twisted,
  selfish minds of these two egomaniacs..

If you don't fully comply with the dynamic duos russian theology, you are wrong. 

Nobody is praising putin. I see just more assumptions again aye. UnAmerican for saying what the smart ones suspect instead of being led by the nose. Don’t worry though, hillary and obama agree with you.

[ironglow]

There has been no democrat in the Biden regime or any of the republican establishment, or any European leader trying to bring an end to the war. They have all been funding it, and pushing for further escalation. With zero attempt to bring peace. Does it look like any part of our government has done, or said anything about ending the war? All I see is gas being thrown on the fire. We like to think the republicans have our best interests, but it appears to me most of them are part of throwing gas on the fire.   

   The Bidenites tried the CCP virus here...and perhaps Putin is trying the pipeline problem there..

   Any old excuse to grab power from the people, is what all dick-taters seek !  ...And they prefer that the people willingly surrender it !

  That has been happening with a certain segment of the population, both here and in Russia..  It seems about half the population of each country is backing the dick-tater of placed before them.

[Lloyd Smale]

i guess the same could be said for ww1 ww2 korea, Nam and even both sides of the civil war. I guess i look at it a bit differently then you and my way may not be perfect either. But to me we have a choice. Support ukraine till the day russia gives up and goes home or we stand back and let russia spread communism and not only them but next its china, Korea, Iran ect. If we arent willing to draw a line today then those countries have car Blanc to do anything they want. Including taking over other countries and making it open season to aquire nukes. This isnt really a dem vs rep thing ecept for our drastic need to ramp up oil production and increasing our military strength. Theres people on both sides that are for and against this war. Me? im a ronald reagan commy hating sob. I say kill them all and let God sort them out. I know he sure wouldnt be for raping and murdering women and children and ethnic cleansing. All russia had to do was to stay on there own side of the line and not one bit of this would have happend. That is a cold hard fact. We didnt cause this war, Nato didnt cause this war, Ukraine didnt cause this war. PUTIN DID!! Hes the one that crossed the border  into a country that didnt want him for his own personal gains. He has killed thousands of ukraine soliders, children and women and is responsible for the deaths of thousands of his own country men just for riches and ego. I am not willing to sacrafice my standard of living one bit to support green bs but i am willing to sacrafice to stop communism from being more powerful in the world then democracy. that scares the hell out of me.

[ironglow]

  It seems the Ukraine situation is reminiscent of the situation with Israel..

      If the Russians would lay down their weapons tomorrow morning and go back home, peace would
      follow; however if the Ukrainians quit fighting, thousands more would die..both now and in the future.

[Lloyd Smale]

Ill give that an amen!! Heres what you get with putin https://www.foxnews.com/world/civilian-convoy-attacked-ukraine-dead-children-pregnant-woman  if we dont stop him now he just gets more powerful as does china and one day those women and children will be Americans. 

  It seems the Ukraine situation is reminiscent of the situation with Israel..

      If the Russians would lay down their weapons tomorrow morning and go back home, peace would
      follow; however if the Ukrainians quit fighting, thousands more would die..both now and in the future.

[billy_56081]

Russia will blame the West, The West will blame Russia. We will be shown irrefutable proof by both sides.

[Dee]

Russia will blame the West, The West will blame Russia. We will be shown irrefutable proof by both sides.

Probably,

[Dee]

Russia blew up nord stream to rally its citizens to fight NATO, by touting a fake by NATO attack on Nord stream.

Pootuns' popularity waines.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/19939292/putting-special-ops-sabotage-nordstrom-pipeline-nato/

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Sounds like a conspiracy theory, since Russia had already shut down natgas delivery. Ozcam's principle indicate that those who took out the pipelines have the most to gain, and secondly wanted it permanently taken out.
After Ukrainian hostilities calmed down I believe the Russians were planning to resume natgas deliveries, providing they got paid. Now they can't.

Interesting to note Russia has not accused the USA of destroying the NordStream, but have used language that it was an operation of the 'collective west'.

Btw, I am starting to think Poland is a main actor in this pipeline caper.
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IG........

When people run with Russo-phobia impressions, accept Biden Regime proclamations and propaganda from legacy media, then block out historical facts _ _ they are acting complicitly with the Biden Regime and vicariously assisting in the Regime's gaslighting of America. Question everything this fake regime does (and Putin, too).
The idea is not to make insufferable transgressions sufferable.
Blessed are the peacemakers.
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It most definitely is a "theory". Just like EVERYONE ELSES', on GBO, is nuthin more than "a speculative theory".

Not one single poster on GBO knows what's really going on in Russia, the Ukraine, or who's really winning, or whose responsible for blowing up nord stream, or even if was blown up, or just failed.

 NOBODY has an inside track, with an inside source, on all things Russia on GBO. One, with one single follower may think they do ,but they are as ignorant to the reality in Russia and Ukraine, as every other GBO member. 

And yes, Russia HAS ACCUSED THE UNITED STATES of sabotaging Nord Stream.

The SPECULATION AND THEORIES, are flying  and coming from every direction.

GBO is a perfect example of self proclaimed fanatical experts.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/energy-environment/putin-accuses-us-and-its-allies-of-sabotaging-nord-stream-pipelines

[mcbammer]

Well we sure have indications of what is happening by what these leaders and their talking heads say and do. As Zelenskyy applies for fast track NATO membership, a tipping point.

It appears that one main target of WW3 and Great Resetters is to take out energy infrastructure in Europe and North America, and fertilizer production = Joe's dark winter.
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    I dont see NATO approving Ukaine for membership  , that would mean boots on the ground . And likely American boots  being the first an the most . 

[Dee]

Well we sure have indications of what is happening by what these leaders and their talking heads say and do. As Zelenskyy applies for fast track NATO membership, a tipping point.

It appears that one main target of WW3 and Great Resetters is to take out energy infrastructure in Europe and North America, and fertilizer production = Joe's dark winter.
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I would be surprised if NATO  approves  Ukraine membership , that would mean boots on the ground . And likely American boots  being the first an the most .

When it comes down to it, I wouldn't bet on Nato holding it together.

[Mule 11]

Russia blew up nord stream to rally its citizens to fight NATO, by touting a fake by NATO attack on Nord stream.

Pootuns' popularity waines.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/19939292/putting-special-ops-sabotage-nordstrom-pipeline-nato/

.......................,.,.......

Sounds like a conspiracy theory, since Russia had already shut down natgas delivery. Ozcam's principle indicate that those who took out the pipelines have the most to gain, and secondly wanted it permanently taken out.
After Ukrainian hostilities calmed down I believe the Russians were planning to resume natgas deliveries, providing they got paid. Now they can't.

Interesting to note Russia has not accused the USA of destroying the NordStream, but have used language that it was an operation of the 'collective west'.

Btw, I am starting to think Poland is a main actor in this pipeline caper.
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IG........

When people run with Russo-phobia impressions, accept Biden Regime proclamations and propaganda from legacy media, then block out historical facts _ _ they are acting complicitly with the Biden Regime and vicariously assisting in the Regime's gaslighting of America. Question everything this fake regime does (and Putin, too).
The idea is not to make insufferable transgressions sufferable.
Blessed are the peacemakers.
.

It most definitely is a "theory". Just like EVERYONE ELSES', on GBO, is nuthin more than "a speculative theory".

Not one single poster on GBO knows what's really going on in Russia, the Ukraine, or who's really winning, or whose responsible for blowing up nord stream, or even if was blown up, or just failed.

 NOBODY has an inside track, with an inside source, on all things Russia on GBO. One, with one single follower may think they do ,but they are as ignorant to the reality in Russia and Ukraine, as every other GBO member. 

And yes, Russia HAS ACCUSED THE UNITED STATES of sabotaging Nord Stream.

The SPECULATION AND THEORIES, are flying  and coming from every direction.

GBO is a perfect example of self proclaimed fanatical experts.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/energy-environment/putin-accuses-us-and-its-allies-of-sabotaging-nord-stream-pipelines

I am no follower dee. Although that is what you expect from members. I come to my own conclusions. You ought to try it sometime, ya just might like it. I also have tucker Carlson sharing my opinion, one of the most outspoken conservatives on media and until he disagreed with you and a “few” others including the biden regime, and all of the far left govt was not as you say “ a conspiracy theorist “ I say there is a conspiracy and you ought to read more...

[ironglow]

Nah!  It's those pesky Anglo-Saxons at it again..running around with their mighty swords, chopping up pipelines these days...

  https://www.reuters.com/article/ukraine-crisis-putin-nordstream-idAFS8N2Z80FZ

[Mule 11]

Russia blew up nord stream to rally its citizens to fight NATO, by touting a fake by NATO attack on Nord stream.

Pootuns' popularity waines.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/19939292/putting-special-ops-sabotage-nordstrom-pipeline-nato/

.......................,.,.......

Sounds like a conspiracy theory, since Russia had already shut down natgas delivery. Ozcam's principle indicate that those who took out the pipelines have the most to gain, and secondly wanted it permanently taken out.
After Ukrainian hostilities calmed down I believe the Russians were planning to resume natgas deliveries, providing they got paid. Now they can't.

Interesting to note Russia has not accused the USA of destroying the NordStream, but have used language that it was an operation of the 'collective west'.

Btw, I am starting to think Poland is a main actor in this pipeline caper.
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IG........

When people run with Russo-phobia impressions, accept Biden Regime proclamations and propaganda from legacy media, then block out historical facts _ _ they are acting complicitly with the Biden Regime and vicariously assisting in the Regime's gaslighting of America. Question everything this fake regime does (and Putin, too).
The idea is not to make insufferable transgressions sufferable.
Blessed are the peacemakers.
.

It most definitely is a "theory". Just like EVERYONE ELSES', on GBO, is nuthin more than "a speculative theory".

Not one single poster on GBO knows what's really going on in Russia, the Ukraine, or who's really winning, or whose responsible for blowing up nord stream, or even if was blown up, or just failed.

 NOBODY has an inside track, with an inside source, on all things Russia on GBO. One, with one single follower may think they do ,but they are as ignorant to the reality in Russia and Ukraine, as every other GBO member. 

And yes, Russia HAS ACCUSED THE UNITED STATES of sabotaging Nord Stream.

The SPECULATION AND THEORIES, are flying  and coming from every direction.

GBO is a perfect example of self proclaimed fanatical experts.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/energy-environment/putin-accuses-us-and-its-allies-of-sabotaging-nord-stream-pipelines

Exactly!!  Now, I just have to wait for the little nosed donkey to attack.

As usual nothing to add just another personal attack on me. Any opinion? Anything to add at all? Is this where I’m supposed to insult back? When was the last time you added anything at all to discussion or debate here? How pathetic...

[DDZ]

So its just brushed off as idle gab that Biden stated that if Russia crosses over the border into Ukraine Nord Stream 2 would no longer exist? He even promised that it would be done. Mind you that this is not Biden saying this. Its someone telling him to say this.  Since the Biden regime flat out said it would do away with the pipeline, I'm going to use some common sense and conclude that the Biden regime at the very least had something to do with it. While it doesn't make a lick of sense that Russia would destroy it.

[Dee]

So its just brushed off as idle gab that Biden stated that if Russia crosses over the border into Ukraine Nord Stream 2 would no longer exist? He even promised that it would be done. Mind you that this is not Biden saying this. Its someone telling him to say this.  Since the Biden regime flat out said it would do away with the pipeline, I'm going to use some common sense and conclude that the Biden regime at the very least had something to do with it. While it doesn't make a lick of sense that Russia would destroy it.

I don't think anybody is brushing anything aside, I think that logical folks whom aren't in worldwide governmental loops are smart enough to say they don't know who did it.

Certainly know one here on GBO knows.

[Mule 11]

So its just brushed off as idle gab that Biden stated that if Russia crosses over the border into Ukraine Nord Stream 2 would no longer exist? He even promised that it would be done. Mind you that this is not Biden saying this. Its someone telling him to say this.  Since the Biden regime flat out said it would do away with the pipeline, I'm going to use some common sense and conclude that the Biden regime at the very least had something to do with it. While it doesn't make a lick of sense that Russia would destroy it.

I don't think anybody is brushing anything aside, I think that logical folks whom aren't in worldwide governmental loops are smart enough to say they don't know who did it.

Certainly know one here on GBO knows.

Yet you keep saying Russia Russia Russia...

[Lloyd Smale]

https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/blaine-holt-russia-nord-stream/2022/10/01/id/1089970/

[Dee]

Russia is doing a "land grab", and counting on the Biden Regime sitting it out if it comes to all out war.
I don't think NATO will hold together if it comes to that.

[ironglow]

   News today...   Nordstream no longer leaking, and curiously, it looks like they both quit leaking at the same time.

      https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/02/world/europe/nord-stream-pipeline-damage-russia.html#:~:text=Leaks%20from%20the%20Nord%20Stream,Energy%20Agency%20said%20on%20Sunday.

  I guess the "leaks" have served their purpose..

[Dee]

   News today...   Nordstream no longer leaking, and curiously, it looks like they both quit leaking at the same time.

      https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/02/world/europe/nord-stream-pipeline-damage-russia.html#:~:text=Leaks%20from%20the%20Nord%20Stream,Energy%20Agency%20said%20on%20Sunday.

  I guess the "leaks" have served their purpose..

Have they stopped leaking, or have they been shut off?

[VA Rifleman]

Nordstream 1 and 2. Each consisted of a pair of 4’ pipes. 4 pipes total.  Nordstream 2 never started delivery.

Russians shut off Nordstream 1 at end of Aug claiming “maintenance problems”. No gas has been delivered since then.

All 4 pipelines were pressured when shut off. A drop in pressure on the German end was the 1st sign of problems. The “leaks” were the residual pressure bleeding off.

Russians have a huge natural gas flare burning on their coast since end of August as shutting down a gas field is not as simple as closing a valve.

Pipelines owned by a Russian / German consortium.

Scott Ritter on Russian TV. Claiming “Russians winning” on same day RF troops run for their lives at Lyman and their front lines collapsing in Northern Kherson.

Kherson.
20K Russians trapped on right bank of Dinpro river with damaged bridges and a few barges for re supply. Winter comes...

Antonivskyi Bridge in Kherson.  RF MSR route

[Dee]

According to news sites the pressures with gas, and water has "equalized".

[Lloyd Smale]

moon of Alabama? I wouldnt open that page just because of what they might put in my computer. I think if putin himself said he did it youd claim Americans or nato made him say it. One thing id ask you and you should be a real expert at is what kind of anti virus you run.

[Mule 11]

moon of Alabama? I wouldnt open that page just because of what they might put in my computer. I think if putin himself said he did it youd claim Americans or nato made him say it. One thing id ask you and you should be a real expert at is what kind of anti virus you run.

Ya know, the vax jab, just like you...

[Mule 11]

The great news site Moon of Alabama goes thru some facts and military maneuvers in vacinity of the pipeline attack...

https://mronline.org/2022/09/29/whodunnit-facts-related-to-the-sabotage-attack-on-the-nord-stream-pipelines/

And why I think Poland was one of the 'contractors'.  And the USA has a long history of hating the NordStream project from it's inception, wanting Europe to remain a US protectorate.

Meanwhile, Moscow says the pipes can be repaired and put back in service.
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That was a long read. Interesting though.

[Lloyd Smale]

if that made any sense id probably feel insulted

moon of Alabama? I wouldnt open that page just because of what they might put in my computer. I think if putin himself said he did it youd claim Americans or nato made him say it. One thing id ask you and you should be a real expert at is what kind of anti virus you run.

Ya know, the vax jab, just like you...

[Mule 11]

if that made any sense id probably feel insulted

moon of Alabama? I wouldnt open that page just because of what they might put in my computer. I think if putin himself said he did it youd claim Americans or nato made him say it. One thing id ask you and you should be a real expert at is what kind of anti virus you run.

Ya know, the vax jab, just like you...

I guess that puts us on the same page for once...