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Kerch strait bridge to Crimea down.
« on: October 08, 2022, 03:36:35 AM »
UA forces deliver present to Putin on Birthday. Russians say accident.

Three vehicle spans down and railway section on fire.
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Re: Kerch strait bridge to Crimea down.
« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2022, 10:47:15 AM »
Bridge had 4 routes. Two vehicle roadways and two rail lines.

Surviving roadway also damaged. One lane usable at 10 cars per 30 minutes. Vehicle weight limited to 3.5 tons (pickup truck) per Russian state media.

Russians working on rail lines.

More complications for RF logistics trying to supply the Kherson theatre as UA also strikes rail junctions north of Crimea. 20K Russians sitting on the right bank of the Dnipro river waiting on fuel, ammo, food and winter uniforms.

Pic showing remaining roadway right after explosion. Span shifted and sags.
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Re: Kerch strait bridge to Crimea down.
« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2022, 11:30:58 AM »
  Russian logistics and re-supply is dependent upon rail traffic.
 
  There seems to be a debate about who blew the bridge.  I strongly suspect the Ukrainian asymmetrical units did the job.

  Putin declared that the Crimea is now part of Russia...probably enough to incite guerilla forces into action.

  I have said right here previously, that even if Russia did take over the land, they would face many years of
    insurgencies..
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Re: Kerch strait bridge to Crimea down.
« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2022, 02:54:09 PM »
Russians took Crimea in the 2014 invasion. The bridge was to be the symbol of Russian ownership of Crimea. They said “indestructible”. Protected by land, air, sea, subsea and space.

Ukrainian’s said it was illegal.

Russians destroyed the bridge from Romania to Odesa at the start of the war. So not the first big bridge attack but the most symbolic of the war.

Precast bridges, especially one that size are very strong. Whoever did it, knew what they were doing. UA being coy.

Concerning the truck theory. UA trolling Russians on Twitter. Saying they ordered their vehicle born IED over the Internet.

I’m going with the water surface detonation.
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Re: Kerch strait bridge to Crimea down.
« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2022, 01:49:31 AM »
Putin's birthday present!
I'd say torpedo or missile.

 Zelenskyy is by far the most insane.! AND ANY AMERICAN OR JOURNALISTS WORTH THEIR WEIGHT IN SALT SHOULD BE OUTRAGED AND SCREAMING FOR HIS DISMISSAL. Clearly he's a porn comedian cocaine addict deep state actor that has gone insane, and there's no place for him in this world, or for his benefactors Biden, Obama, Nuland.
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Yes he is. especially after his last rant of calling on the United States and NATO to nuke Russia. Goes to show he doesn't care how many people get killed. Any sane person would not be calling to start a nuclear war. 
Remember all this could have been avoided months ago when there was a near deal between Russia and Ukraine that Ukraine would not join NATO. Of course that wasn't good enough for the Biden regime war mongers, along with some war monger republicans, who stepped in and squashed any agreement between the two dictators.   
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Re: Kerch strait bridge to Crimea down.
« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2022, 02:14:38 AM »
The Ukrainian president is calling for someone to nuke Russia, whose dictator been threatening for weeks to nuke the Ukraine, but the Ukrainian president is the one whose crazy? :o
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Re: Kerch strait bridge to Crimea down.
« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2022, 03:29:17 AM »
Both countries are governed by power hungry lunatics but Putin is the crazy that started the mess. Slojo needs to pull, back, shut up, and quit wasting our almost worthless dollars that are his fault and let them sort it out by themselves. Whomever wins, all the citizens, Russian and Ukraine alike, lose and will be continue to be at the mercy of a dictator.

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Re: Kerch strait bridge to Crimea down.
« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2022, 04:13:48 AM »
  Putin and Zelensky..

  Both .... power mad

    "    ....  called for nuclear usage

    "    .... accused of being insane

    ..But the fact remains, and cannot be denied...if Putin would have stayed home, this mess would not even exist !
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Re: Kerch strait bridge to Crimea down.
« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2022, 06:09:24 AM »
The Ukrainian president is calling for someone to nuke Russia, whose dictator been threatening for weeks to nuke the Ukraine, but the Ukrainian president is the one whose crazy? :o

So what do you think? Should we throw some nukes at Russia per Zelensky's request?
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Re: Kerch strait bridge to Crimea down.
« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2022, 07:57:07 AM »
Thread going as most.  If Russian Army as good as their propaganda, war would have been over in three days.

Using ONE translated word out of a whole speech to frame Zelenskiy as calling for nuclear war and get this much traction is pretty good.

Russian mil bloggers ignore. Focus on battlefield, supplies, poor mobilization and the power struggle between Prighozhin, Ramzan Kadyrov and designated fall guy, Sergei Shoigu, head of the Mod.

Both Kadyrov and Prighozhin have private armies. What FSB doing?

Back to the bridge. I was wrong. Not precast construction.
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Re: Kerch strait bridge to Crimea down.
« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2022, 10:08:10 AM »
The Ukrainian president is calling for someone to nuke Russia, whose dictator been threatening for weeks to nuke the Ukraine, but the Ukrainian president is the one whose crazy? :o

So what do you think? Should we throw some nukes at Russia per Zelensky's request?

I think what I've always thought, and said. STAY OUT OF IT AND LET EUROPE HANDLE EUROPEAN PROBLEMS!

BUT! Reality check! Who invaded who, and who threatened who with nukes? Both answers are obvious. Pootun invaded Ukraine, not the other way around, and who has nukes. Russia, of course.

The Ukrainian president may be crazy, neither myself nor anyone here has ever met the man, but Pootun DID invade the Ukraine, and Pootun HAS publically on national news, threatened to use nukes.

Through all the BS SPECULATION, those two "facts" are all ANYBODY here actually knows to be true.
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Re: Kerch strait bridge to Crimea down.
« Reply #11 on: October 09, 2022, 10:43:34 AM »
TM what does any of that even mean? “ in tack” that’s not even English. I hope the Kremlin pieces of silver come regularly. “Marching powder”?

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Re: Kerch strait bridge to Crimea down.
« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2022, 12:27:44 PM »
VAR...

What word are you talking about.? Zelenskyy 's intent is clear. Even Kiev tried to walk back his crazy talk.

What war are you talking about?

Remember the Russian called this action a 'special de-nazification operation', a police action not a war to destroy Ukraine entirely as American warfare model.  They left power, coms, railroad, bridges in tack.

Ukrainian word "удар," which has several meanings. One of which reads like “up yours”.
Zelensky speaking of preventive actions, sanctions and policy and yes there was clarification from  Kyiv.

What war?  Come on man...

RF forces are and have been destroying power, com, railroads and such. That is when they can hit them. Forced to use repurposed S300 SAM’s which sometimes land in general area. As mentioned before, the bridge to Romania was taken out by Russian cruise missiles early in the war.

The Shahed-136 (Iranian drone) does okay if target doesn’t move and not shot down.This is a bone of contention for Russian Mil bloggers who want this drone used on front lines, not in rear areas.

RF blew up another apartment building today. Killed 17  civilians. In a area they supposedly just annexed. 

For Russian sources about daily war events minus the propaganda intended for western consumption,  try translations from Igor Girkin. He and other Pro Russian channels are more critical of the war effort (not going well) then many westerners.
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Re: Kerch strait bridge to Crimea down.
« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2022, 02:36:23 AM »
Ukrainians take out the bridge, so Pootun launches the biggest missile strike since the Russian invasion. Into civilian targets. Hospitals, schools, playgrounds, ect.

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Re: Kerch strait bridge to Crimea down.
« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2022, 02:41:24 AM »
   TM says in reply#4;

    " Putin's birthday present! I'd say torpedo or missile.


     Yeah...the civilians in several Ukrainian cities thia past week, have just endure some of his "presents"..

     https://news.yahoo.com/explosions-rock-kyiv-apparent-missile-053937801.html
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Re: Kerch strait bridge to Crimea down.
« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2022, 02:49:28 AM »
   Further in reply #4, TM says...
  "Remember, Ukraine has only been a country since 1991 at liquidation of the USSR, and the agreement was for it to be forever neutral.
Prior to the creation of Ukraine, the Crimea and the Donbas regions had been Russian territory for hundreds of years, even thousands of years, and defended from German Wehrmacht brutal attack during WW2.  Lot of talk around Russia that this conflict is a continuation of WW2 . Belorussia now saying they have 500,000 men soon ready for conflict. Btw, I don't recall Soviet Russia ever signing the Peace Treaty or Agreement ending WW2"


   So the Ukraine was once part of Russia...and might be today, had the Commies not mistreated them so bad.

  Yet you say that land had been part of Russia for thousands of years, so for that reason, Russia has a claim on
  that land now..

   So...why then do you treat Israel differently, since the Hebrews have had title to their homeland, since before
   Russia itself was even a barbarian dream?
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Re: Kerch strait bridge to Crimea down.
« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2022, 03:34:12 AM »
BTW;

   No longer any doubt who took the bridge down..

  Ukraine home defense forces took it down..thereby highlighting some of Russia's critical problems...

   Evidently due to the oligharchs skimming off rubles, their military is hurting..  It appears it is antiquated in
   it's equipment and tactics.

  Their artillery is very inaccurate by today's standards, while the HIMARS now in the hands of the defending Ukrainians, is very accurate.

  Since the Russian artillery at such longer ranges has a couple hundred yards as a likely impact area, they have
  to  "blanket " a proposed target, while the HIMARS is good within 1 meter..

   My son showed me a video where the HIMARS just "marched" holes in the bridge, one after the other..then
  they let it sit for a day or so, before finishing the bridge off. 
  It also showed hoe the Ukrainians built wooden mock ups of HIMARS units, and covered them with sheets of "tin', as decoys for the Russians to expend their rockets upon.

   Then the Russians tried  couple pontoon bridges..  The Ukrainian defenders let them get their bridges about
     90% complete, before destroying them also.

  Here is a short video showing the bridge with huge holes at regular intervals..before they finally committed
    the 'Coup de Grace'.  (video 1 min 44 secs)


  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otoXUTMIb5w
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Re: Kerch strait bridge to Crimea down.
« Reply #17 on: October 10, 2022, 03:43:43 AM »
I don't think denying the Bible is productive.
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Re: Kerch strait bridge to Crimea down.
« Reply #18 on: October 10, 2022, 03:46:56 AM »
Region known as Israel belongs to semetic Palestinians of all three faiths; not Euro colonists.

  It belongs to the people who now own it ,  and there they will stay until the Lord returns..
   ...The evil triad notwithstanding.

     
“Behold, the days are coming,” says the LORD, “When the plowman shall overtake the reaper, And the treader of grapes him who sows seed; The mountains shall drip with sweet wine, And all the hills shall flow with it. I will bring back the captives of My people Israel; They shall build the waste cities and inhabit them; They shall plant vineyards and drink wine from them; They shall also make gardens and eat fruit from them. I will plant them in their land, And no longer shall they be pulled up From the land I have given them,” Says the LORD your God."
  (Amos 9:13-15)

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« Reply #19 on: October 10, 2022, 03:49:45 AM »
Neither do I esp the NT.
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Re: Kerch strait bridge to Crimea down.
« Reply #20 on: October 10, 2022, 05:05:39 AM »
ya i got a chuckle out of that one but a bigger chuckle with his waco news saying theres american boots on ground there fighting the war. LOTS of them. If theres even one hes a mercenary and not affiliated with our government. Id like to see proof from a LEGIT source that proves me wrong. Show me an american that was returned in a body bag or some pics of them fighting. This is a small world. If we had troops on the ground it would be all over the news. What possible reason would the major news networks have to hid that?? Both sides of the political party would be screaming to high heaven. Why do you (not dee) feel the need to spread these kinds of lies. Because some tin foil news agency says it sure doesnt make it fact. SHOW ME THE MONEY!! Seems no matter what putin does you want to blame the ukraine and the United States. Again for the thousands time. The ukraine didnt invade russia. Russia invaded them. Unless there was a direct act of war from Ukraine (which there sure wasnt) Russia had no right to invade there country. NONE. I dont care if those regions were theres a 100 years ago. With that mentality you should hand over the deed to your home to the native americans. We should all be hung as traitors by england for our revolution. They like us are an independent sovereign nation and russia had no right what so ever to attack them. but you keep spouting your anti american pro communism rhetoric. Im sure the far left will welcome you into there communist take over of this country. If not putin has a nursing home for you.   
The Ukrainian president is calling for someone to nuke Russia, whose dictator been threatening for weeks to nuke the Ukraine, but the Ukrainian president is the one whose crazy? :o
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« Reply #21 on: October 10, 2022, 05:09:57 AM »
was God wrong in the old testament???
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« Reply #22 on: October 10, 2022, 05:17:04 AM »
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But as I see it now, with the blasting of NordStream and now the Bridge, and with Zelenskyy revealing he is insane, Russian strategy is changing to total war on Ukraine and it's western military troops.  It's going to get nasty now.
so ukraine blows up a bridge and there deranged but russia shoots hundreds of missile right into citys and thats ok with you???? As to the pipeline. You dont know who blew it up any more then i do. Last i heard you werent included in government meetings or discussion on any side of that. Just talking out you ass like you do daily on here. Again SHOW ME THE MONEY. its pretty much the consensus of all the free world that russia blew it up. If they had proof WE DID IT putin would be screaming at the top of his lungs while the insane sob lobbed nukes at urkraine and probably us too. but nope alls quiet on the russian front over that deal.
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« Reply #23 on: October 10, 2022, 05:44:06 AM »
Neither do I esp the NT.
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   ...Reject part of God's word..may as well reject it all..
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« Reply #24 on: October 10, 2022, 09:32:47 AM »
 yes sir. If you believe that God is real and that he gave us the bible then ALL of it has to be believed. Not just select parts you like.
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   ...Reject part of God's word..may as well reject it all..
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« Reply #25 on: October 10, 2022, 12:59:58 PM »
Never tried a twitter link here. Trent Telenko thread on RF oil logistics, railways and the bridge.

https://mobile.twitter.com/trenttelenko/status/1579139255531896832

Russians fire $6.5M cruise missile at UA pedestrian bridge and miss.

Not good form attacking civilians during rush hour.
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« Reply #26 on: October 10, 2022, 04:16:07 PM »
Different news than you hear elsewhere.

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« Reply #27 on: October 10, 2022, 10:37:06 PM »
again you condemn the ukraine for doing the same thing russia is doing. Its a proven fact that russia has hired mercenary soldiers from other countries. Why would you condemn the ukraine for doing the same. Because a soldier speaks english doesnt make him an american. Because an american mercenary is on the ground there sure as hell doesnt mean our government sent them there. You are the king of speculations. Show me factual proof that our government has put american military soldiers over there to fight that war or ANY nato country soldier. Your "poor russia" rhetoric gets old. We all know your pro commy. If you werent you wouldnt post all this bs criticizing OUR country or even nato countries without one lick of real proof. You are the ultimate putin cheerleader. More brain washed then the people living in russia. 
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Re: Kerch strait bridge to Crimea down.
« Reply #28 on: October 11, 2022, 02:46:54 AM »
Never been the Ukraine, or Russia. Never met either president.

SO! I don't get phone calls from either informing me of their next move, or their intentions. I'm guessing that nobody here on GBO gets those phone calls either.

So it comes down to opinions, and news sources. As we all know, the news media is less than trustworthy, so we're left with "so called experts" who give their "opinions", and they get a check for going on news media shows and sharing their "opinions".

IF ANYBODY HERE ON GBO HAS BETTER NEWS SOURCES ITS PURELY BY ACCIDENT, AS THEY HAVE NO WAY OF KNOWING WHATS ACTUALLY HAPPENING 5,700 AWAY, AND THEY ARE NO BETTER INFORMED THAN THE NEXT MEMBER.
I KNOW SOME HERE "THINK" THEY KNOW,  BUT THEY DON'T HAVE ANY BETTER NEWS SOURCES THAN THE NEXT MEMBER. ;)

The ONLY FACTS anybody on GBO has is: Russia invaded the Ukraine. Ukraine is defending itself "vigorously". And the United States is pouring BILLIONS into the war, while ignoring its own peoples perils in energy, crime, and its borders.


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« Reply #29 on: October 11, 2022, 09:28:57 AM »
I even watched this bs. No surprise ive never heard of either of them but did come away with one thing. They kind os shot you in the foot because they said there are no american troops on the ground there. Guess those two need to get better tin foil hats because they dont know as much as you ::)
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So today it appears the Biden Regime is going to run a 'special military operation' in Haiti. But wait a minute,,,,,hold the phone....
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