Kerch strait bridge to Crimea down.

[Lloyd Smale]

In tact or in tack....intact

  just think the antonym of tm7s brain.

[DDZ]

We have sent billions in money and weapons to Ukraine. Don't know why its inconceivable to think that we don't have any American troops or especially special forces there. Are the Ukraine soldiers capable of using some of the sophisticated weapon systems we have sent there, without any help from American special forces that know how to use them?

Scott Ritter is a former intelligence officer in the Marine corps. Also during Dessert Storm he was a Marine captain and served as a ballistic missile intelligence analyst. I would be more inclined to believe what he has to say about Ukraine than most all other sources. 

[Dee]

We have sent billions in money and weapons to Ukraine. Don't know why its inconceivable to think that we don't have any American troops or especially special forces there. Are the Ukraine soldiers capable of using some of the sophisticated weapon systems we have sent there, without any help from American special forces that know how to use them?

Scott Ritter is a former intelligence officer in the Marine corps. Also during Dessert Storm he was a Marine captain and served as a ballistic missile intelligence analyst. I would be more inclined to believe what he has to say about Ukraine than most all other sources.

Yeah, Oliver North was a much decorated marine. He lied like a dog trottin to Congress about helping Reagan go around congress to finance the Contras through protected drug smuggling. To America.

[DDZ]

Yeah Oliver North also entered politics where lying is part of the job.

[Dee]

Yep, the NRA and several folks here love the  guy.

[Lloyd Smale]

i guess your not intelligent enough to know the difference in an american soldier and a mercenary. There are people from many countries fighting for money on the russian side too. That sure doesnt mean every country those mercenaries are from supports putin. If there was actually american military soldiers on the ground over there it would be sceamed about on every american, nato and even russian news service. Not just some off the wall web page ran by a conspiracy theorist. One thing is FACT. Today with the internet and every home in the this country and most of the world having access to the news no longer can you hide things like that. You cant hide anything. biden is HATED by the right. If he did something like that every republican running for office would be screaming at the top of there lungs about it. Not just some crack pot idiot on greybeard. Do yourself a favor. If you want to chear for putin or condemn this country at least use REAL facts instead of your bs links that you post just to pretend you know what your talking about. It makes you look like an idiot and sure shows the rest of us your love of communism. You try way to hard to be validated on here and its doing just the opposite.

[Lloyd Smale]

heres who blew up the bridge. Notice that 3/4s of them were russian. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/crimea-bridge-attack-arrests-as-fresh-blasts-heard/ar-AA12RD11?cvid=f601dddda9e64104a0747fa24c289300 pretty hard to blame us when putin arrested this bunch and even he knows who was responsible. Maybe he didnt tell you in his morning text to you. 

Doesn't matter who actually blew up the bridge or how, or NordStream.  It's all the same globalist cabal.
This time if they claim Crimea they blew up their own bridge!

Plenty of news about hundreds of NATO English speaking troops mixed in with Ukrainian forces.

Report from inside Russia: apparent terrorist attack on nuclear power plant inside Russia.

Looks like Russia realizes they're fighting NATO.
And now looks like they will take out Ukrainian infrastructure.., power plants, sewage plants, roads, bridges, coms, railroad...... American style warfare.....nasty stuff.

But still have negotiation on the table.  Not Zelenskyy or Biden.
.

[VA Rifleman]

And here's one of the websites Ritter, MacGregor, Paul Craig Roberts and many other get their war information.

https://southfront.org/russia-starts-to-fight-for-real-overview-of-strikes-in-ukraine/

Southfront as source? Explains why they’ve been consistently wrong.

Gonzalo Lira said Ritter was no longer trustworthy. Guess he didn’t like it when Ritter proclaimed him dead.


Engineering perspective.
https://theconversation.com/crimean-bridge-blast-experts-assess-the-damage-192161

Construction.
“composite slab orthotropic deck steel plate girder bridge”. Slabs just rest on bearings.

Logistics matters.

[Dee]

Southfront as source? Explains why they’ve been consistently wrong.

Gonzalo Lira said Ritter was no longer trustworthy. Guess he didn’t like it when Ritter proclaimed him dead.


Engineering perspective.
https://theconversation.com/crimean-bridge-blast-experts-assess-the-damage-192161

Construction.
“composite slab orthotropic deck steel plate girder bridge”. Slabs just rest on bearings.

Logistics matters.

Is there anything worse than in fighting among "conspiracy theorists"?

[Dee]

Worse? Sure is,,,...being a hate filled bigot telling lies and making shat up to bear false witness against people telling you stuff you don't have the courage to consider or want others to hear. That's lower then snake snot.
.......,,........................................

VAR......

Is it a big deal Lira and Ritter don't see eye to eye on everything? I don't think so, because difference of opinion is good thing among grown intelligent men. Just not here at times with the zombie echo chamber faction when a few melt down.

If you go to Southfront website you'll find plenty of videos of American, Brit or others engaged in the conflict. Doesn't matter much if they are soldiers of fortune, or on assignment.... they're part of the problem....a war that never should have happened but for insane Biden Regime and their appeal to the Russian hating racist sector in America. Imagine so-called conservatives supporting yet another Demoncrat started war!

Another site offering alternative viewpoints is 'battleworld', a Greek website. Patrick Lancaster is on the ground as is Liz Bartlett, both offering firsthand viewpoints. Lira has gone to lengthy panel discussions with noteworthy journalists, which are very interesting.

So, what's this about a failed underwater NATO drone found near the NordStream pipeline?

What's the story on the other really huge gas pipeline that was just blown. I think it's known as the Russian -German pipeline.

How about the bridges to Belorus all blown by Ukro-NATO spec ops?

What's up with legacy media telling us back in May Russia ran out of missiles and ordinance?

What's the story on the Russian's Sarmat missile.
How many nukes does it carry? How many conventional warheads? Is it true these warheads are delivered by hypersonic missiles from the Sarmat?

What about HIMARS payloads..... do they carry an anti-personnel munition loaded with 275,000 ball bearings that have taken out innocents and children?
.

Is there anything worse than in fighting among "conspiracy theorists"?

Well, to clear things up, I was referencing Virginia rifleman post concerning two sources conflicting one another.

You have made a personal attack on me for having an opinion conflicting yours. Something you run to Bill with  whinin.

SHOULD I MAKE MY COMPLAINT TO BILL WITH RED LETTERS?

[Mule 11]

Worse? Sure is,,,...being a hate filled bigot telling lies and making shat up to bear false witness against people telling you stuff you don't have the courage to consider or want others to hear. That's lower then snake snot.
.......,,........................................

VAR......

Is it a big deal Lira and Ritter don't see eye to eye on everything? I don't think so, because difference of opinion is good thing among grown intelligent men. Just not here at times with the zombie echo chamber faction when a few melt down.

If you go to Southfront website you'll find plenty of videos of American, Brit or others engaged in the conflict. Doesn't matter much if they are soldiers of fortune, or on assignment.... they're part of the problem....a war that never should have happened but for insane Biden Regime and their appeal to the Russian hating racist sector in America. Imagine so-called conservatives supporting yet another Demoncrat started war!

Another site offering alternative viewpoints is 'battleworld', a Greek website. Patrick Lancaster is on the ground as is Liz Bartlett, both offering firsthand viewpoints. Lira has gone to lengthy panel discussions with noteworthy journalists, which are very interesting.

So, what's this about a failed underwater NATO drone found near the NordStream pipeline?

What's the story on the other really huge gas pipeline that was just blown. I think it's known as the Russian -German pipeline.

How about the bridges to Belorus all blown by Ukro-NATO spec ops?

What's up with legacy media telling us back in May Russia ran out of missiles and ordinance?

What's the story on the Russian's Sarmat missile.
How many nukes does it carry? How many conventional warheads? Is it true these warheads are delivered by hypersonic missiles from the Sarmat?

What about HIMARS payloads..... do they carry an anti-personnel munition loaded with 275,000 ball bearings that have taken out innocents and children?
.

Is there anything worse than in fighting among "conspiracy theorists"?

Well, to clear things up, I was referencing Virginia rifleman post concerning two sources conflicting one another.

You have made a personal attack on me for having an opinion conflicting yours. Something you run to Bill with  whinin.

SHOULD I MAKE MY COMPLAINT TO BILL WITH RED LETTERS?

I’d say, it shows personal messages aren’t personal at all...
When this turns into even more of an echo chamber you’ll only have each other to insult. Coming to you soon...

[Lloyd Smale]

Still with your noncoherent babbling

Worse? Sure is,,,...being a hate filled bigot telling lies and making shat up to bear false witness against people telling you stuff you don't have the courage to consider or want others to hear. That's lower then snake snot.
.......,,........................................

VAR......

Is it a big deal Lira and Ritter don't see eye to eye on everything? I don't think so, because difference of opinion is good thing among grown intelligent men. Just not here at times with the zombie echo chamber faction when a few melt down.

If you go to Southfront website you'll find plenty of videos of American, Brit or others engaged in the conflict. Doesn't matter much if they are soldiers of fortune, or on assignment.... they're part of the problem....a war that never should have happened but for insane Biden Regime and their appeal to the Russian hating racist sector in America. Imagine so-called conservatives supporting yet another Demoncrat started war!

Another site offering alternative viewpoints is 'battleworld', a Greek website. Patrick Lancaster is on the ground as is Liz Bartlett, both offering firsthand viewpoints. Lira has gone to lengthy panel discussions with noteworthy journalists, which are very interesting.

So, what's this about a failed underwater NATO drone found near the NordStream pipeline?

What's the story on the other really huge gas pipeline that was just blown. I think it's known as the Russian -German pipeline.

How about the bridges to Belorus all blown by Ukro-NATO spec ops?

What's up with legacy media telling us back in May Russia ran out of missiles and ordinance?

What's the story on the Russian's Sarmat missile.
How many nukes does it carry? How many conventional warheads? Is it true these warheads are delivered by hypersonic missiles from the Sarmat?

What about HIMARS payloads..... do they carry an anti-personnel munition loaded with 275,000 ball bearings that have taken out innocents and children?
.

Is there anything worse than in fighting among "conspiracy theorists"?

[Lloyd Smale]

and theres his boot licker

Worse? Sure is,,,...being a hate filled bigot telling lies and making shat up to bear false witness against people telling you stuff you don't have the courage to consider or want others to hear. That's lower then snake snot.
.......,,........................................

VAR......

Is it a big deal Lira and Ritter don't see eye to eye on everything? I don't think so, because difference of opinion is good thing among grown intelligent men. Just not here at times with the zombie echo chamber faction when a few melt down.

If you go to Southfront website you'll find plenty of videos of American, Brit or others engaged in the conflict. Doesn't matter much if they are soldiers of fortune, or on assignment.... they're part of the problem....a war that never should have happened but for insane Biden Regime and their appeal to the Russian hating racist sector in America. Imagine so-called conservatives supporting yet another Demoncrat started war!

Another site offering alternative viewpoints is 'battleworld', a Greek website. Patrick Lancaster is on the ground as is Liz Bartlett, both offering firsthand viewpoints. Lira has gone to lengthy panel discussions with noteworthy journalists, which are very interesting.

So, what's this about a failed underwater NATO drone found near the NordStream pipeline?

What's the story on the other really huge gas pipeline that was just blown. I think it's known as the Russian -German pipeline.

How about the bridges to Belorus all blown by Ukro-NATO spec ops?

What's up with legacy media telling us back in May Russia ran out of missiles and ordinance?

What's the story on the Russian's Sarmat missile.
How many nukes does it carry? How many conventional warheads? Is it true these warheads are delivered by hypersonic missiles from the Sarmat?

What about HIMARS payloads..... do they carry an anti-personnel munition loaded with 275,000 ball bearings that have taken out innocents and children?
.

Is there anything worse than in fighting among "conspiracy theorists"?

Well, to clear things up, I was referencing Virginia rifleman post concerning two sources conflicting one another.

You have made a personal attack on me for having an opinion conflicting yours. Something you run to Bill with  whinin.

SHOULD I MAKE MY COMPLAINT TO BILL WITH RED LETTERS?

I’d say, it shows personal messages aren’t personal at all...
When this turns into even more of an echo chamber you’ll only have each other to insult. Coming to you soon...

[Bob Smith]

Wow, Timmy7, you really know your street drugs lingo. Personal experience?

[Graybeard]

I’d say, it shows personal messages aren’t personal at all...

What does this mean and where did it come from? Stuff posted to forums is hardly a PM and no one can see your PMs unless you post them to open forum. If/when that happens, nope it's no longer private if one party posts it to a forum.

Was something in this thread written to someone else via PM? If not I don't understand your comments about PMs not being private.

Only way someone can see your PMs other than the personal sending and person or persons receiving them is if one party shares it openly.

[billy_56081]

I myself like to watch a bit of Patrick Lancaster just to get another angle. The truth, I think may lie right in the middle. One thing I have heard and seen reports of lately is Zelensky is doing all his broadcasts in front of a green screen.  Where is he?

[Lloyd Smale]

heck id bet us tax payers are paying for your food and shelter too.

[VA Rifleman]

Manpower?
Evidently Ukraine has enough forces for rotation to the U.K and successfully conduct operations on two fronts.

From Yesterday.
“10K of #Ukraine soldiers have completed their training today and coming home to fight invaders”.

https://twitter.com/smartuacat/status/1580272749280624641

Wagner group emptying prisons for manpower. Advance or be shot in the back. Just like the old days.

https://wagnergroup.online/prisoners-wagner-recruits/

Any conversation about mercenaries would be incomplete without a mention of Wagner and the Chechens. Wagner group motto. “Death is our business and business is good.”

Ukraine does have a Foreign legion of sorts.

Misc info.
The current record for RF mobilization to UA POW is 6 days.

Day 6 and the Kerch Bridge rail line is still down.
https://twitter.com/tendar/status/1580347640164024320

As of yesterday.
“According to Russian-appointed head of Crimea, waiting at the ferry crossing in Crimea takes about 3-4 days. And there are about 900 trucks in line at the moment”,
https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1580230919306502151

At the far end of this logistics line are 20K Russians, their back to the Dnipro River, awaiting food, fuel, ammo and winter gear.

Russians went to a Siberian warehouse for 1.2 million winter uniforms. It was empty. Then tried to buy winter gear from Turkey. They were turned down.

Wars go through phases. This is phase 3 which started with the arrival of HIMARS and RF supply dumps blowing up.

Phases subject to change. New RF General made his rep using barrel bombs at Aleppo.

[Lloyd Smale]

The whole thing was unecessary

  thats one undisputed fact. All that would have been needed was for Putin to check his ego and  not to go to war with ukraine and none of this would have happened. It was insanity but even us here know some teeter on the brink of insanity every day.

[Mule 11]

It’s been said that there is a thin line between genius and insanity. Some here need not worry though with a 2 digit IQ...

[billy_56081]

VAR....
Yep, war has its ups and downs.
Unfortunately, it appears Russia's operation is now morphing into a US style kill everything war.

It's ashame. The whole thing was unecessary.
.

I hope so this is a boring war.