...Could be a cold winter for some..

[ironglow]

   Thanks to the Biden bunch...heating oil is already being rationed in New England..even at ridiculous prices.
 
   https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-10-21/heating-oil-being-rationed-in-us-northeast-before-winter-starts

   
   

[Lloyd Smale]

Tell these lunatic neocons and Demonazies to back off and let peace break out

why dont you tell your man crush putin that. Hes the one that invaded Ukraine. Hes the that needs to go home and let peace come.

[Lloyd Smale]

driver just delivered propane to my house this morning. luckily i prebuy because he said propane prices have already climbed 30 percent since the pre buy and will be going higher. We dont buy propane from russia or the middle east so that war has nothing to do with propane prices. Its the biden adminstration that did this.

[Dee]

I guess Biden shutting down Keystone on his first day, and basically trying to kill United States oil business has nuthin to do with the prices.
It's Russia, Russia, Russia. 

[Lloyd Smale]

still havent got my tickets. Maybe you should skip the tshirt and have me bring a women back for you. My guess is your still a virgin That is if you havent spent time in prison

Tell these lunatic neocons and Demonazies to back off and let peace break out

why dont you tell your man crush putin that. Hes the one that invaded Ukraine. Hes the that needs to go home and let peace come.

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The war began in 2014 when Obama and Nuland performed a coup d'etat which they bragged about. Subsequently, they placed the coke addict clown  as puppet president in power. At that point Ukraine became the corruption capital of the world as occupied territory of Washington, London, Berlin , Brussels. Hunter, Kerry's son, Pelosi's son, Schiff's son set up shop there. So did NATO under false pretext to build a proxy army. Fauci and friends thru Eco Health Alliance and DoD set up 30 bioweapons labs concentrating on genetic weapons. After 8 years of watching this war, Russia finally entered the melee; especially when Zelenskyy 's Nazi brigades threatened a mass extermination of ethnic Russians in the Donbass region. They immediately offered to negotiate a settlement, an offer still good.  But your coke head pal has said no negotiations or peace until Russia is defeated. Good luck on that.

I look forward to your firsthand UPer reports when you arrive in Ukraine. We all expect you to stay a minimum of 6 weeks and travel around; and not just hang out in Kiev's many porn clubs.
Don't forget to to buy souvenir Z tee shirts.
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[wtxbadger]

Nordstream was sabotaged with an explosive laden pig inside the pipeline. A pig is generally used either for the cleaning and maintenance of a pipeline or can be used with electronics for inspection. In this case one was loaded down with explosives and detonated after it was pumped down the pipeline.

There have been several news articles written on this, all you have to do is search for it.

[Dee]

Nordstream was sabotaged with an explosive laden pig inside the pipeline. A pig is generally used either for the cleaning and maintenance of a pipeline or can be used with electronics for inspection. In this case one was loaded down with explosives and detonated after it was pumped down the pipeline.

There have been several news articles written on this, all you have to do is search for it.

I know what a pig is, they're used all the time in pipelines. I had never thought of that. It's doable, and possibly what actually happened.

[ironglow]

I guess Biden shutting down Keystone on his first day, and basically trying to kill United States oil business has nuthin to do with the prices.
It's Russia, Russia, Russia. 

   Yes!  Just tell Biden to undo what he did first day in office. 
 
    The only way Russia comes into play, is that Putin saw his opportunity to make his move, when millions of idiots voted an idiot into the oval office.  .Then the idiot, not only cut oil exploration, but shut down the keystone on his first day!

   Then the idiot removed sanctions from Nordstream...so Putin took it as an open invitation..

  I still wonder if the Moscow mayor's wife giving Hunter a big check, had anything to do with it !

[Lloyd Smale]

you make claims about daily that nato was responsible. With absolutely nothing but conjecture gotten off of looney tune web sites. 

[Mule 11]

Conjecture? So some choose to overlook biden saying if Russia invades Ukraine that there would be no nordstream.

[Mule 11]

I find it interesting that some here run cover for each other, yet if others even agree on subjects they are boot lickers, followers, groupies or a # of various insults. Some can’t stand an alternative perspective so they go on the attack trying to silence others. Doing exactly what they accuse others of. Hmmm. Where have I seen this tactic before?

[Dee]

Mule.,.. yeah, it's exactly how the lefties try to censure and cancel information, ideas, and people.

Just imagine what Stalin or Mao could have done with 6 million LloydDees...!
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Gee, you and TM8 just can't help yourselves. I have  conversation with a poster, and you and  junior flap back and forth. Doing what you accuse of doing. You two act like democrats. Give each other a hug.

[Dee]

Oh Dee , we were just chatting among ourselves.. not really chatting with you. It's ok if you guys want to cancel free thinkers..... doesn't matter to me much.
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Seems to. You and TM8 are constantly "validatin" each other over me. I must have both your goats somewhere in my back yard. I'll look. 

[Mule 11]

I find it interesting that some here run cover for each other, yet if others even agree on subjects they are boot lickers, followers, groupies or a # of various insults. Some can’t stand an alternative perspective so they go on the attack trying to silence others. Doing exactly what they accuse others of. Hmmm. Where have I seen this tactic before?

Like I said...

[wtxbadger]

TM7,

The two links below to news articles are very similar but different on the sabotage by pig and it makes sense that this is way the pipelines would be sabotaged based on their construction and the pigs would have been pumped down the line from a station controlled by Russia. Not a fan of the Sun and not familiar with ASH but the probability of this method being used seems the most likely.

JMO but I believe Putin is mentally deranged by physical illness and there is nothing he might not do to maintain power and remake the neighboring countries into a new USSR. He has publicly made it known for years that he laments the fall of the Soviet Republic.


https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/20158971/nord-stream-pipeline-drone-inside-putin-bond/

https://www.ash.org.au/uk-news/putin-may-have-used-pig-drones-packed-with-explosives-to-blow-up-nord-stream-gas-pipeline-in-bond-style-plot/

[Mule 11]

WTXb....

Thanx for the links. The Sun is like a British version of the National Enquirer. Both the Sun and Ash seem to be running the same copy.

When the pipelines were blown there was a conspiracy theory that Russia blew their own pipes, but was quickly dropped... If the Swedes and Finn's, now joining NATO, investigating the sabotage had clear evidence that a 'pig attack' blew the pipelines they would have shouted it from the rooftops. But instead they put a lid on the investigation and said their findings were too sensitive to release . IOW, somebody told them to shut up and rabbit hole their discovery!
The articles say Russia blew their own multi billion dollar pipeline so they could benefit from rising natgas prices. But isn't that a little silly and ridiculous..... how could they benefit from rising prices if they blew up their own delivery infrastructure.? Not to mention throwing Kremlin political leverage in the trash.
Simply doesn't make sense. But what does add up is the actors that blew the pipelines had the most to gain politically and economically, which would be Biden Inc. just as Joe and Nuland promised they would do. Now Israel has announced they are going to be Europe's next gas supplier.  Imagine that!
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You mean to say that sleepy joe And Nuland said they would end the pipeline? Eee gads Batman. I remember seeing this and the statement, butt? I thought putin did it... That is the current narrative ya know? I believe everything that people who have lied to me over and over again want me to believe. If putin would have just let the world take control of his country like ours has/errr not invaded Ukraine everything would be peachy...

[Mule 11]

Oh yeah., Mule...... Doncha know, there's a few conspiracy theorists that claim Russia blew their own pipeline. And the people that said they'd take down the pipeline were just spoofing and funnin us.
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Ya mean like when sleepy joe told Ukraine that if they did not fire the prosecutor who was investigating his son’s involvement in corruption and pay off’s to his family in Ukraine that he was authorized by Obama to withhold money? Nahh, couldn’t be... BTW, didn’t that prosecutor get fired and Ukraine got the payoff and didn’t sleepy joe brag about it?

[Dee]

WTXb....

Thanx for the links. The Sun is like a British version of the National Enquirer. Both the Sun and Ash seem to be running the same copy.

When the pipelines were blown there was a conspiracy theory that Russia blew their own pipes, but was quickly dropped... If the Swedes and Finn's, now joining NATO, investigating the sabotage had clear evidence that a 'pig attack' blew the pipelines they would have shouted it from the rooftops. But instead they put a lid on the investigation and said their findings were too sensitive to release . IOW, somebody told them to shut up and rabbit hole their discovery!
The articles say Russia blew their own multi billion dollar pipeline so they could benefit from rising natgas prices. But isn't that a little silly and ridiculous..... how could they benefit from rising prices if they blew up their own delivery infrastructure.? Not to mention throwing Kremlin political leverage in the trash.
Simply doesn't make sense. But what does add up is the actors that blew the pipelines had the most to gain politically and economically, which would be Biden Inc. just as Joe and Nuland promised they would do. Now Israel has announced they are going to be Europe's next gas supplier.  Imagine that!
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You mean to say that sleepy joe And Nuland said they would end the pipeline? Eee gads Batman. I remember seeing this and the statement, butt? I thought putin did it... That is the current narrative ya know? I believe everything that people who have lied to me over and over again want me to believe. If putin would have just let the world take control of his country like ours has/errr not invaded Ukraine everything would be peachy...

Oh yeah., Mule...... Doncha know, there's a few conspiracy theorists that claim Russia blew their own pipeline. And the people that said they'd take down the pipeline were just spoofing and funnin us.
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Oh yeah., Mule...... Doncha know, there's a few conspiracy theorists that claim Russia blew their own pipeline. And the people that said they'd take down the pipeline were just spoofing and funnin us.
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Ya mean like when sleepy joe told Ukraine that if they did not fire the prosecutor who was investigating his son’s involvement in corruption and pay off’s to his family in Ukraine that he was authorized by Obama to withhold money? Nahh, couldn’t be... BTW, didn’t that prosecutor get fired and Ukraine got the payoff and didn’t sleepy joe brag about it?

WTXb....

Thanx for the links. The Sun is like a British version of the National Enquirer. Both the Sun and Ash seem to be running the same copy.

When the pipelines were blown there was a conspiracy theory that Russia blew their own pipes, but was quickly dropped... If the Swedes and Finn's, now joining NATO, investigating the sabotage had clear evidence that a 'pig attack' blew the pipelines they would have shouted it from the rooftops. But instead they put a lid on the investigation and said their findings were too sensitive to release . IOW, somebody told them to shut up and rabbit hole their discovery!
The articles say Russia blew their own multi billion dollar pipeline so they could benefit from rising natgas prices. But isn't that a little silly and ridiculous..... how could they benefit from rising prices if they blew up their own delivery infrastructure.? Not to mention throwing Kremlin political leverage in the trash.
Simply doesn't make sense. But what does add up is the actors that blew the pipelines had the most to gain politically and economically, which would be Biden Inc. just as Joe and Nuland promised they would do. Now Israel has announced they are going to be Europe's next gas supplier.  Imagine that!
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You mean to say that sleepy joe And Nuland said they would end the pipeline? Eee gads Batman. I remember seeing this and the statement, butt? I thought putin did it... That is the current narrative ya know? I believe everything that people who have lied to me over and over again want me to believe. If putin would have just let the world take control of his country like ours has/errr not invaded Ukraine everything would be peachy...

LMAO! TM7 & TM8. More "validation". Give each other a hug. 

[Mule 11]

Oh yeah., Mule...... Doncha know, there's a few conspiracy theorists that claim Russia blew their own pipeline. And the people that said they'd take down the pipeline were just spoofing and funnin us.
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Ya mean like when sleepy joe told Ukraine that if they did not fire the prosecutor who was investigating his son’s involvement in corruption and pay off’s to his family in Ukraine that he was authorized by Obama to withhold money? Nahh, couldn’t be... BTW, didn’t that prosecutor get fired and Ukraine got the payoff and didn’t sleepy joe brag about it?

By golly, geewillakers....yep yep, just like that prosecutor deal and braggin Joe. It's like Biden Inc runs that Ukraine joint. Aside from coup d'etat, revolutions, bio-labs, moral collapse, NATO building a surrogate army, and nazies running around shootin and lootin Ruskies all on Russia's back porch........ I just can't see why that thar Pootin fella gets so upset. And that thar Zelenskyy fella seems like a nice family man. Oh sure, he's a drug addict and likes to do porn comedy, but nobody is perfect. And I 'll betcha one dollar if we give him all the money and weapons he wants he'll straighten out and God will find him. Yup, I betcha.
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 Mebbe he just needs a hug. Or, mebbe he need’s his Parkin ticket validerated hun? From what I’ve seein he likes sumpin large in his parkin area...

[Casull]

Oh yeah., Mule...... Doncha know, there's a few conspiracy theorists that claim Russia blew their own pipeline. And the people that said they'd take down the pipeline were just spoofing and funnin us.
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Wouldn't that be one of those false flags you are ALWAYS going on about?

[Lloyd Smale]

says the biggest boot licker on here. Problem is most of the boots you lick end up kicking you to the curb

I find it interesting that some here run cover for each other, yet if others even agree on subjects they are boot lickers, followers, groupies or a # of various insults. Some can’t stand an alternative perspective so they go on the attack trying to silence others. Doing exactly what they accuse others of. Hmmm. Where have I seen this tactic before?

[Lloyd Smale]

if im not mistaken putin has threatened to cut off oil to those countrys a number of times himself.

Conjecture? So some choose to overlook biden saying if Russia invades Ukraine that there would be no nordstream.

[Lloyd Smale]

so tell me now how the nato countries benefit from cutting off their own oil supply this close to winter?? Botton line is we have not idea who did it and nobody has shown REAL proof of who did it. So if you have rock solid insider info that we dont you should share it with the world because your the only one with that info.

WTXb....

Thanx for the links. The Sun is like a British version of the National Enquirer. Both the Sun and Ash seem to be running the same copy.

When the pipelines were blown there was a conspiracy theory that Russia blew their own pipes, but was quickly dropped... If the Swedes and Finn's, now joining NATO, investigating the sabotage had clear evidence that a 'pig attack' blew the pipelines they would have shouted it from the rooftops. But instead they put a lid on the investigation and said their findings were too sensitive to release . IOW, somebody told them to shut up and rabbit hole their discovery!
The articles say Russia blew their own multi billion dollar pipeline so they could benefit from rising natgas prices. But isn't that a little silly and ridiculous..... how could they benefit from rising prices if they blew up their own delivery infrastructure.? Not to mention throwing Kremlin political leverage in the trash.
Simply doesn't make sense. But what does add up is the actors that blew the pipelines had the most to gain politically and economically, which would be Biden Inc. just as Joe and Nuland promised they would do. Now Israel has announced they are going to be Europe's next gas supplier.  Imagine that!
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[Lloyd Smale]

its 5 o'clock somewhere.
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Mebbe he just needs a hug. Or, mebbe he need’s his Parkin ticket validerated hun? From what I’ve seein he likes sumpin large in his parkin area...

[Mule 11]

I find it interesting that some here run cover for each other, yet if others even agree on subjects they are boot lickers, followers, groupies or a # of various insults. Some can’t stand an alternative perspective so they go on the attack trying to silence others. Doing exactly what they accuse others of. Hmmm. Where have I seen this tactic before?

And, point proven again...

[Lloyd Smale]

yup agree with your own posts. Thats one way to get at least one person who respects your opinion. Rest of us? not so much. 

I find it interesting that some here run cover for each other, yet if others even agree on subjects they are boot lickers, followers, groupies or a # of various insults. Some can’t stand an alternative perspective so they go on the attack trying to silence others. Doing exactly what they accuse others of. Hmmm. Where have I seen this tactic before?

And, point proven again...

[Lloyd Smale]

when they wouldnt cave to his blackmail of only selling it in rubles instead of the way they had paid for it for DECADES.

if im not mistaken putin has threatened to cut off oil to those countrys a number of times himself.

Conjecture? So some choose to overlook biden saying if Russia invades Ukraine that there would be no nordstream. Us sell it to him. So wheres that  comming from. Our reserves are down to nothing and we have our own fossil fuel shortage to worry about.

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The Kremlin never did cut off natgas to Europe except when the Europeans stopped paying for it because of sanctions on Russia...
The Globalist not only declared war on Russia in 2014, but extended the war on to Germany because the last thing they wanted is Germany making nice with Russia. Germany without fuel is fast becoming a cold failed post industrial state.

The only advantage to cutting out Russian fuel delivery is to American fuel shippers and eventually to Israeli natgas pipeline to Europe.

Russia has since opened their fuel market to China, India, and elsewhere.
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