..Decided to settle in this afternoon, to watch a good movie..

[ironglow]

   I clicked onto Youtube, to watch a movie called USS Seaviper.  Well, it started out in a German sub pen, with a German captain receiving his orders.  It was a WW2 movie, circa 1944.
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrWloM47vGo&t=28s
 
    In the background was a civilian shipyard worker, doing some acetylene cutting. Oops! He was wearing what looked like Carhartts! 
   Now, I arrived in Germany just 18 years after the war, and such work clothes were not seen then. Their work clothes were of a dark color, providing they weren't wearing lederhosen..     ..And that was also true in wartime Germany.
 

 So, I decided to overlook one mistake and continue on.. 

   The scene switches to an admiral's house, evidently at Pearl.  The admiral welcomes a sub captain into his home to
    give him his orders..  The captain has a full beard  not to mention the admiral..who also has a beard !

   At that time beards were about non-existent in the military.. -and moustaches considered non-SOP..with the possible exception of a very small minority of Special Ops troops, who were very few in number..
   No way and admiral...and thus his subordinates would be wearing a beard.

   ... Lots of drama, but little fact.

    Sure, the movie was made in 2012, but that is no excuse for such inaccuracy, concerning time and place.

[ironglow]

  Here is a page, showing many photos of Pacific theater admirals.. Show me a beard..

    https://www.google.com/search?q=pearl+harbor+admirals&sxsrf=ALiCzsZN7_aWnkbIOPyaxqep0GH1FzeAug:1669489637201&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiv8p_G

[Lloyd Smale]

beards were allowed in the navy from its inception to sometime in the 80s. Not in the army airforce or marines but about everyone in the navy and coast guard that could grow a beard had one. Even some of the old school flag officers. Dont know about the german rules though. As to uniforms the short time i spent on a ship we didnt wear them underway in the engine room. We wore army green coveralls for the most part. Even our e9 chief wore them. Its probably more realistic that the crew of a sub underway wasnt wearing a proper uniform then a movie that showed them all in nice clean perfect uniforms.  We also had welding jackets that were made from woven asbestos that from a distance might have looked like carharts. We had them in brown and black. but i will agree some war movies are a joke. One of my favorites is guys carrying and shooting flat top m16s with no carry handle or sight of any kind. Or the 15 shot peacemaker or 1911. 

   I clicked onto Youtube, to watch a movie called USS Seaviper.  Well, it started out in a German sub pen, with a German captain receiving his orders.  It was a WW2 movie, circa 1944.
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrWloM47vGo&t=28s
 
    In the background was a civilian shipyard worker, doing some acetylene cutting. Oops! He was wearing what looked like Carhartts! 
   Now, I arrived in Germany just 18 years after the war, and such work clothes were not seen then. Their work clothes were of a dark color, providing they weren't wearing lederhosen..     ..And that was also true in wartime Germany.
 

 So, I decided to overlook one mistake and continue on.. 

   The scene switches to an admiral's house, evidently at Pearl.  The admiral welcomes a sub captain into his home to
    give him his orders..  The captain has a full beard  not to mention the admiral..who also has a beard !

   At that time beards were about non-existent in the military.. -and moustaches considered non-SOP..with the possible exception of a very small minority of Special Ops troops, who were very few in number..
   No way and admiral...and thus his subordinates would be wearing a beard.

   ... Lots of drama, but little fact.

    Sure, the movie was made in 2012, but that is no excuse for such inaccuracy, concerning time and place.

[Lloyd Smale]

the tradition was mostly that beards were for ships and ive seen ship captains with beards. Most flag officers were clean shaven. Mostly because the rough and tumble good old boys didnt become flag officers then pretty boys and boot lickers did. But even with all of that being true the beard thing was more of an enlisted mans thing then a officers thing.

  Here is a page, showing many photos of Pacific theater admirals.. Show me a beard..

    https://www.google.com/search?q=pearl+harbor+admirals&sxsrf=ALiCzsZN7_aWnkbIOPyaxqep0GH1FzeAug:1669489637201&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiv8p_G