M&P9 M2.0 Safety

[moamonkey]

I have an M&P9 M2.0 w/out a thumb safety. Is it possible to add a safety if wanted? It seems there are plenty of folks out there that frown on a safety, but if decide I want to carry it (it resides in my nightstand currently), I'm thinking I might like one. Is it something I could do myself?

[billy_56081]

No.

[JustaShooter]

No, but there may be someone out there that wants to swap for a model without a safety.  Worth posting in here and any local gun groups/pages you are on.

[scattershot]

Some of them come with a plug cutout in the frame, but the sear block(?) is different. So, as a practical matter, no.

[Lloyd Smale]

wish you lived closer because id trade you for my safety gun in a heartbeat. I bought it because it was a great deal but if i was ordering one it sure as heck wouldnt have a safety. Mine all came with a safety at birth. Its called a brain. But if you live near northern michigan and want to take a ride. I have a like new 2.0 shield with a few hundred rounds through it and a safety thats never been used

[moamonkey]

Been shooting a 1911 for years, thumb disengaging and riding the safety has become a natural act. In fact, that computer between your ears is being programmed the more you train with a specific firearm to respond naturally with that firearm. A thumb safety for me is not at all taxing on my brain…if it is too of a much strain on yours, then by all means, bypass it.

What works for one, doesn’t necessarily work for all.

[phalanx]

Ruger security 9 is a POS. The trigger wobbles around from side to side. And the safety is iffy.

[moamonkey]

For those who may have an interest, I contacted Smith & Wesson. They don't offer parts, but gave some vendor references. Brownell's and Numrich both carry separate parts to convert. And they do both suggest installation by a gunsmith. Thanks for the help.

[Lloyd Smale]

i too have been shoot 1911s since 1974. I even carried one in the service. That said have over 50 handguns and i rarely use a 1911 for carry anymore. To do it right you have to train exclusively with it. When something goes bump in the night i dont care for flicking levers or turning on optics. Grab the gun and pull the trigger. If you think its unsafe then you havent shot enough without a safety. I shoots 10s of thousand of rounds a year out of handguns and have never even came close to an accident with a gun that didnt have a safety. Id say if you wet your pants using a gun without a safety then by all means buy one with it. But just dont try telling guys that really shoot that its one bit safer. The real safety is in gun control and your brain. Not some mechanical lever. I can use a mix of glocks M&Ps ect that have no safety in my vehicles and stuck places in my house and basically take any one of them and put it in a holster and know that they all work the same. Pick it up pull the trigger and it goes bang. Id say a good many agree with me because a glock is the most popular handgun in the world and show me one of them with a safety or show me where some police officer shot himself or someone else by accident because he carried a glock. Then factor in with that the fact that most police depts today dont cant even afford to give there troops practice ammo. I believe in KEEP IT SIMPLE. But the you probably have vastly more experience then me

Been shooting a 1911 for years, thumb disengaging and riding the safety has become a natural act. In fact, that computer between your ears is being programmed the more you train with a specific firearm to respond naturally with that firearm. A thumb safety for me is not at all taxing on my brain…if it is too of a much strain on yours, then by all means, bypass it.

What works for one, doesn’t necessarily work for all.

[Lloyd Smale]

i dont understand your train of thought anyway. Why spend money converting it. Take it to the gunshop and trade it for one that has a safety.

[JustaShooter]

show me where some police officer shot himself or someone else by accident because he carried a glock.

OK, I completely agree with everything you said - but this happens more frequently than you seem to think.  It's why Glock makes a "NY trigger" for the models provided to NYPD, and why you hear about officers with "Glock leg" or "Glocking" themselves. 

Now, that's not the fault of the gun at all, it's poor training and poor gun handling, but it does happen remarkably frequently.

[phalanx]

I still like my Beretta 92, for home Defence. Long barrel,18 rounds.

[Lloyd Smale]

new york trigger is just an add on that increases pull weight to close to 10lbs to prevent an accidental discharge. Now how does that make a safety more safe. Fiip off the safety and you still have a 5 lb trigger that if you put your finger on before you intend to shoot can cause an accidental discharge just as easy as a glock. In the case of a smith 2.0 or even more so a 1911 with there even lighter triggers even more prevalent. Ive heard of accidental discharges from people panicking and struggling to disengage there safeties too. If your training with a gun that has a safety your practicing flipping off that safety well before your finger makes it to the trigger anyway. When i drilled with 1911s the safety was off before the gun cleared the holster.

 In this day of people suing people because there cofffee was to a hot when they were dumb enough to spill it in there own lap i would have to guess that if it could be proven that glocks (m&ps and many other handguns) are unsafe because they dont have safetys glock would have gone broke by now or folded to the pressure and at least offered a safety as an option. Obviously it cant be proven. Ill tell you a story about how crazy this kind of crap can get. Bob Baker who owns Freedom Arms just about folded his company because he lost a court case where some hillbilly was playing quick draw with a FA 454 drunk at a party. Idiot blew his leg off at the knee. They took bob to court and claimed if that gun would have had a transfer bar it wouldnt have gone off when the idiot pulled back the hammer and let it go before it was all the way locked. How insane is that. Some idiot drunk playing John Wayne to impress his buddys with a (censored word) loaded gun shoots his own leg off and it just about bankrupts Bob. Court ruled it was bobs fault not that (censored word) idiot playing quick draw drunk with a loaded 454!! A gun is only as safe as the man controling it. A lever on the side isnt making it one bit safer.

Im not trying to pick a fight with you. I could actually care less what you carry. If you feel you need a safety then go for it. But adding one just doesnt make sense. Just trade the gun for one with one. Like i said i wish you lived up here because i have on id sure swap you. I only bought it because it caught my eye at the gun shop because it had a case and a bunch of mags with it. The other 3 shields i have dont have a safety. Matter of fact the only other m&p i owned that did was a full sized 9. I loved that gun but hated that safety. My brother in law who is very inexperienced with guns shot it at camp one day and said he was going tomarrow to buy himself one. I told him keep that one because he has done alot for me and i went out a week later and bought the same gun without a safety.

[Lloyd Smale]

nothing wrong with a 92. I dont use mine for self defense (id have to wear suspenders) or home defense but i like it because its made from good old steel and the one i have is the second most accurate 9mm ive ever shot. Only one i saw that could beat it was my 1911 sti trojan 9mm i used for ppc shooting. I dont think id ever buy a second one but im not parting with the one i have either. Its probably 25 years old and i dont recall it ever malfunctioning, breaking or even choking on a cast reload. I actually prefer a DA semi auto to a safety gun because again its just grab it and pull the trigger.

I still like my Beretta 92, for home Defence. Long barrel,18 rounds.