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One of the "global warming" gurus, at it again
« on: January 02, 2023, 11:55:55 PM »
  Paul Erlich said in his i968 book entitled THE POPULATION BOMBthat hundreds of millions would starve to death, that nobody and nothing could prevent it !

  https://www.foxnews.com/media/60-minutes-uses-failed-doomsday-biologist-predict-mass-extinction-humanity

   So now he is at it again, and  60 MINUTES at CBSseems to believe him!

  How often and how boastfully must a fellow LIE, before you admit he is a LIAR?

  Malthus tried the same lie back in the late 1700s...and only the most gullible pay any heed to his screed..

   
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Re: One of the "global warming" gurus, at it again
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2023, 12:06:17 AM »
  Being part of the "don't love the planet near so much as they hate humanity" gang, others in
 what seems the same category...sure seem to be backing him up !

   It seems little else can display how the left looks at humanity, than this statement from the story; 

"MAN CALLING FOR ‘VOLUNTARY HUMAN EXTINCTION’ GETS GLOWING NEW YORK TIMES PROFILE"

  Question....  Why hasn't Paul Ehrlich already volunteered for his own program?
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Re: One of the "global warming" gurus, at it again
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2023, 01:08:28 AM »
They are trying hard to engineer a food supply apocalypse. You will eat bugs and be happy.

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 At one time I found that hard to accept, but it is becoming more abundantly clear.  Obviously, anyone of any influence should be pushing for more efficient method of increasing food production.  ..But instead, the WEF trained national leaders are instigating legislation to CUT food production..

   https://www.google.com/search?q=netherlands+to+cut+cattle+farms&sxsrf=ALiCzsbLSvKvpr2l7UzeYxvWkA_Lnri2Hg%3A1672747713561&source=hp&ei=wRq0Y6D_H_Gr5NoPkaW7

  Biden's forced cut in our  abundant oil supply, endangers the lives of millions...  Is he trying to make Ehrlich look credible?  That of course, at the cost of millions of lives..

  https://www.reuters.com/business/sanctions-bite-russia-fertilizer-shortage-imperils-world-food-supply-2022-03-23/
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Re: One of the "global warming" gurus, at it again
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2023, 03:11:43 AM »
Well, first off, China's population is starting to decrease due to the long running one child policy.  So now they allow you to have up to 3 kids.  However, they say the decrease might be irreversible. 

Second, Europe's population is decreasing.

Third, even ours is decreasing except for all the immigrants, legal and illegal. 

Fourth, India's population is leveling off due to capitalism and more prosperity.

Long term I've read that factories may move to Africa, the next cheap labor market as they are still increasing in population.  Latin America's labor costs are in between and higher than China's or Africa's.  They also have to quit playing around with socialism/communism.  In 1960 Venezuela had the 3rd largest economy in the western hemisphere behind the US and Canada.  They had oil and minerals to mine and a capitalist economy.  Anyway higher standard of living reduces the number of children people have. 

So, we have not had the population bomb.  It did increase, but so did food production to match.  More food can be grown in greenhouses taking up less space than traditional farming.  The Netherlands are the 3rd largest exporter of food in the world because of intensive greenhouse production of vegetables. 

Going nuclear power world wide would cut fossil fuel needs, if fossil fuels is what they are worried about.  Also, Exxon did a study and said all the gasoline in the US could be made from algae oil grown in greenhouses that would only cover an area the size of Rhode Island.   From algae oil, they could refine it into gasoline and diesel.  However it costs about $4-5 per gallon to produce.  Just take the tax off until the costs come down.  They have to recoup the cost of building the greenhouses.  Both of these do not even include wind or solar power.  Oh, and making algae oil takes CO2 out of the atmosphere, but puts it back in when it is burned, so it is carbon neutral. 

There are lots of ways to increase food production as well as energy production to make a higher standard of living for all the world.  Left alone without government interference, man has figured out how to overcome these things.  In the 1800's steam ships and locomotives ran on wood.  When wood became more scarce, they switched to coal.  Later to more convenient diesel.  Most navy ships now use nuclear power. 

It seems all the news media wants to tell is bad news and weird news.  There are a lot of good things still happening.
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Re: One of the "global warming" gurus, at it again
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2023, 04:06:21 AM »
If it bleeds it leads. Good news is not worthy enough to grab ratings and it is all about the almighty (not so much anymore since slojo) dollar. Two things make the world turn, money and power, and they feed off each other.

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Re: One of the "global warming" gurus, at it again
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2023, 12:50:51 PM »
I've heard the blah blah blah
from a friend's brother in law
at holiday gatherings about the
fragile earth, and protecting all
animal life, and only eating
vegetation, and all electric
society, etc. etc.
One time I was listening to
his diatribe about how we were
so cruel for killing animals and
eating their parts, and how
proud he was that nothing died
for him to eat, etc.
It was too much for me, so I had
to point out that plants and their
offspring ( fruits and vegetables)
had to die for his meals, that he
constantly exhaled carbon dioxide
every minute of every day, that he
poisoned the earth with his toxic
urine and feces, and took oxygen
away from other living things so
he could live, and if he drove
any distance at all or used electricity
he was part of the problem he
was railing against. The only
positive eco friendly contribution
he could make was to seal every
body orifice and help fertilize
the soil of the earth.
I think they all got mad at me,
but I figured fair was fair with
having to listen to his nonsense
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Re: One of the "global warming" gurus, at it again
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2023, 01:48:11 PM »
People are not dying from war and disease at any thing near the rate of even the sixties much less the teens through the forties when millions died quickly repeatedly.

Those who would have died of disease or bad genes are now kept alive, and the bad genes are breeding making the gene pool weaker and increasing the birth of persons who will live off of drugs and govt. susidies because they cannot (and do not have to) take care of them selves.

There are too damned many people; just what has happened to the two cities I have spent my life in -- increased crime, hundreds of acres of good farm soil being paved over, and more and more laws with less and less freedom, the author has the specifics wrong, but the priniciple of the idea is correct.




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Re: One of the "global warming" gurus, at it again
« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2023, 01:48:29 PM »
If the human race becomes extinct, then the Bible is wrong.

If ole Paul believes the human race is going to become extinct, then ole Paul doesn't believe Biblical scripture.

Which means, ole Paul, is an idiot, and shouldn't be patronized.
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Re: One of the "global warming" gurus, at it again
« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2023, 02:14:17 PM »
The human race will not become extinct but the Bible does say if God does not step in man will succeed in eradicating himself.

14 But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:

15 And let him that is on the housetop not go down into the house, neither enter therein, to take any thing out of his house:

16 And let him that is in the field not turn back again for to take up his garment.

17 But woe to them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!

18 And pray ye that your flight be not in the winter.

19 For in those days shall be affliction, such as was not from the beginning of the creation which God created unto this time, neither shall be.

20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.

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Re: One of the "global warming" gurus, at it again
« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2023, 04:28:50 PM »
The human race will not become extinct but the Bible does say if God does not step in man will succeed in eradicating himself.

14 But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:

15 And let him that is on the housetop not go down into the house, neither enter therein, to take any thing out of his house:

16 And let him that is in the field not turn back again for to take up his garment.

17 But woe to them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!

18 And pray ye that your flight be not in the winter.

19 For in those days shall be affliction, such as was not from the beginning of the creation which God created unto this time, neither shall be.

20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.

But He does step in, so its a moot point.  ;)
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Re: One of the "global warming" gurus, at it again
« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2023, 04:44:30 PM »
Young guys should hang out with old guys; old guys know stuff

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Re: One of the "global warming" gurus, at it again
« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2023, 02:09:59 AM »
Wasn't Paul Ehrlich the genius who predicted a coming mass die off in the '70's.

https://www.aei.org/carpe-diem/18-spectacularly-wrong-predictions-made-around-the-time-of-the-first-earth-day-in-1970-expect-more-this-year/

   ..What I was saying in the OP...just didn't make special note that Ehrlich, predicted that for the 70s..  Thanks for pointing that out !
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Re: One of the "global warming" gurus, at it again
« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2023, 04:45:48 PM »
I just realized
I haven't heard the word "ozone "
mentioned on any "news " report
in years.    :D   :D
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Re: One of the "global warming" gurus, at it again
« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2023, 04:53:31 PM »
They found out lightning replaces the ozone layer.  So, it's not going to disappear.   
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Re: One of the "global warming" gurus, at it again
« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2023, 04:59:04 PM »
They found out lightning replaces the ozone layer.  So, it's not going to disappear.

I used to have an "ozone generator " that you could
look down inside and it made dozens of little electric
arcs. It was for cleaning the stale air and odors out
of places like the apartment I was at. Lots of constant
stink from neighboring apartments and from a
woman I was with at the time that smoked constantly.
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Re: One of the "global warming" gurus, at it again
« Reply #15 on: January 05, 2023, 06:27:37 PM »
When you have John Coleman, founder of the Weather Channel, Dr. Judith Curry, 40+ years as a meteorologist, and many others that this ''global warming'' is B***S**T, looks to me, it's all about money!!
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Re: One of the "global warming" gurus, at it again
« Reply #16 on: January 06, 2023, 02:00:37 AM »
When you have John Coleman, founder of the Weather Channel, Dr. Judith Curry, 40+ years as a meteorologist, and many others that this ''global warming'' is B***S**T, looks to me, it's all about money!!

Absolutely its all about money, and the transfer of wealth. Just sad that there are so many ignorant of that fact.
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Re: One of the "global warming" gurus, at it again
« Reply #17 on: January 06, 2023, 02:41:32 AM »
I just realized
I haven't heard the word "ozone "
mentioned on any "news " report
in years.    :D   :D

   We haven't heard anything more of that RADON gas that is supposed to build up in basements..eventually killing people, either.
  So, why did the "threat" fade away, while radon has not done so?  The answer is simple, ozone and radon are totally natural...and.. there is no way the left can use them to gain POLITICAL points !

  They can't use RADON..to halt the building automobiles, heating our homes, shutting down agriculture, or forcing us to make changes to our basic lifestyle.

  There is no real way to utilize OZONE for those purposes either.  With either of these, the 'control freaks' cannot gain any control, so they passed those up, in favor of a false claim, but one that hooks many of the more gullible.

  How quickly the leftists dropped Radon, when they found that it gained them no POWER !

   Remember Radon.....

 
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Re: One of the "global warming" gurus, at it again
« Reply #18 on: January 06, 2023, 11:10:28 AM »
radon didn't go anywhere it is still common in basements here in the south. I don't have a basement so I'm not too worried about it.


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Re: One of the "global warming" gurus, at it again
« Reply #19 on: January 06, 2023, 11:36:19 AM »
  Oh yes, radon didn't go away.  It just went away from the leftist's dialog...as soon as they found out there was no power in it for them !
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« Reply #20 on: January 06, 2023, 01:18:43 PM »
  Oh yes, radon didn't go away.  It just went away from the leftist's dialog...as soon as they found out there was no power in it for them !

Yeah really. they could care less if radon is killing people. Just no political gain for them to talk about it anymore.  I'm sure that the dangers from radon are overblown like everything is. Some scientists if state its overblown. Actually radon is in the atmosphere.  Remember when eggs were so bad for you? They are actually one of the bests foods there are.
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Re: One of the "global warming" gurus, at it again
« Reply #21 on: January 06, 2023, 03:11:59 PM »
From Bob, in reply #9;

  " 20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days."

   ...But they will be cut short, at least for those who belong to Jesus..

   Let's finish vs 22, OK?;

  "22 And if those days had not been cut short, no human being would be saved. But for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short."
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