What Does It Take to Ensure That Policemen Are Human Beings?

[nw_hunter]

What Does It Take to Ensure That Policemen Are Human Beings?

STAR PARKER | FEBRUARY 1, 2023 | 9:09AM EST

  Once again, the nation is traumatized by horrible video of police brutally beating to death a Black man. Need I note the victim was Black? Would we be less or more traumatized if the victim were white?
        But the rule seems to be the victims are Black.
        Everyone sees there is a problem. Everyone wants to fix it. But how?
        The first question in the pursuit of a solution invariably is, "What is wrong with the system?"
        How about we start this time by asking a different question. What is wrong with the men who did it?
        The shocking video certainly doesn't give us the whole story. What were the circumstances that lead to the police apprehending this man, forcing him defenseless on the ground and beating him to death? Can we imagine any circumstance that would justify this behavior?
        Suppose somehow all this occurred under the radar. That these policemen beat this man to death, but no one found out about it.
        Could they live with themselves? Could they just go home to their families after doing a day's work without a second thought that their law enforcement work left a man dead with little justification why this happened?
        We in the pro-life movement ask how women can destroy the child in their womb and live with themselves. Those who rationalize it say they don't see this unborn child as life.
        But can we say these police did not see Tyre Nichols as a living man?
        When these incidents get spun as racial, the answer comes forth that racists do not see those whom they hate as human. There was a historic data point in this regard in our nation's history in the Dred Scott decision.
        But in this case, the police officers were Black.
        How about if we ask if each of those policemen felt they live in a world with a Creator and that every human being is a creation made in that Creator's image? If they believed this, could they have done what they did?
        Rep. Jim Jordan summed it up well saying, "I don't know there is anything you can do to stop the kind of evil we saw in that video."
        Something very bad has happened in our country.
        This nation was founded as a free country under God, not as a "system." The Constitution is an operating manual creating the basic structure of government and to assure that it would be kept limited and not interfere with citizens taking personal responsibility and living free.
        Yes, it began with the horrible reality of slavery. But this reflected the sin of man and not a systematic flaw in the country.
        George Washington said it, and I quote him all the time, that there is no freedom without religion.
        But today we are going in the opposite direction. We want to use courts and legislatures to produce systematic answers to our lives rather than turning to our parents and our pastors for eternal principles. The answer is not in the system; it is in ourselves.
        Regarding the police, they need more personal responsibility for their behavior.
        One path to this is getting rid of qualified immunity, which shields them from exposure to lawsuits. Qualified immunity allows police to violate constitutional rights of others without concern they will be sued. Per this judge-created doctrine, as long as there is not another identical precedent, with all the same facts, police are immune from being sued.
        Unions protect policemen with a track record of infractions, and then qualified immunity protection allows them to go out and do it again.
        This is the most important technical reform that can improve police behavior.
        But we must remember, good men will produce good results even in a bad system.
        But bad men, even in the most perfectly designed system, will produce bad results.

[gene_225]

I have given this situation some thought without much success. To much information is missing. Maybe it's out there and because we (my wife and I) don't have TV access we haven't seen it yet, but it doesn't seem like racism since the perps were black also. I have heard on the radio some say it's systemic racism (white dominance I guess), but that seems like an unsatisfying answer. There must be some history there that we aren't seeing. No answers just questions.

[JeffG]

       This is the most important technical reform that can improve police behavior.
        But we must remember, good men will produce good results even in a bad system.
        But bad men, even in the most perfectly designed system, will produce bad results.

I think that here it is, in a nutshell. Awesome quote.

[Bob Riebe]

I think , to me, part of it came about, some decades past when discretion was taken away from the patrol officer.
I got this from speaking to LEOs, now you do as told by your superiors or go find a different job.

[Dee]

What Does It Take to Ensure That Policemen Are Human Beings?

STAR PARKER | FEBRUARY 1, 2023 | 9:09AM EST

  Once again, the nation is traumatized by horrible video of police brutally beating to death a Black man. Need I note the victim was Black? Would we be less or more traumatized if the victim were white?
        But the rule seems to be the victims are Black.
        Everyone sees there is a problem. Everyone wants to fix it. But how?
        The first question in the pursuit of a solution invariably is, "What is wrong with the system?"
        How about we start this time by asking a different question. What is wrong with the men who did it?
        The shocking video certainly doesn't give us the whole story. What were the circumstances that lead to the police apprehending this man, forcing him defenseless on the ground and beating him to death? Can we imagine any circumstance that would justify this behavior?
        Suppose somehow all this occurred under the radar. That these policemen beat this man to death, but no one found out about it.
        Could they live with themselves? Could they just go home to their families after doing a day's work without a second thought that their law enforcement work left a man dead with little justification why this happened?
        We in the pro-life movement ask how women can destroy the child in their womb and live with themselves. Those who rationalize it say they don't see this unborn child as life.
        But can we say these police did not see Tyre Nichols as a living man?
        When these incidents get spun as racial, the answer comes forth that racists do not see those whom they hate as human. There was a historic data point in this regard in our nation's history in the Dred Scott decision.
        But in this case, the police officers were Black.
        How about if we ask if each of those policemen felt they live in a world with a Creator and that every human being is a creation made in that Creator's image? If they believed this, could they have done what they did?
        Rep. Jim Jordan summed it up well saying, "I don't know there is anything you can do to stop the kind of evil we saw in that video."
        Something very bad has happened in our country.
        This nation was founded as a free country under God, not as a "system." The Constitution is an operating manual creating the basic structure of government and to assure that it would be kept limited and not interfere with citizens taking personal responsibility and living free.
        Yes, it began with the horrible reality of slavery. But this reflected the sin of man and not a systematic flaw in the country.
        George Washington said it, and I quote him all the time, that there is no freedom without religion.
        But today we are going in the opposite direction. We want to use courts and legislatures to produce systematic answers to our lives rather than turning to our parents and our pastors for eternal principles. The answer is not in the system; it is in ourselves.
        Regarding the police, they need more personal responsibility for their behavior.
        One path to this is getting rid of qualified immunity, which shields them from exposure to lawsuits. Qualified immunity allows police to violate constitutional rights of others without concern they will be sued. Per this judge-created doctrine, as long as there is not another identical precedent, with all the same facts, police are immune from being sued.
        Unions protect policemen with a track record of infractions, and then qualified immunity protection allows them to go out and do it again.
        This is the most important technical reform that can improve police behavior.
        But we must remember, good men will produce good results even in a bad system.
        But bad men, even in the most perfectly designed system, will produce bad results.

Well, after reading "Star Parkers" little recitation of what is wrong with law enforcement, I would conclude that Ms Parker is full to capacity of "bovine excrement" and knows little of what she's talking about.

For one, I have seen police officers sued individually, and held accountable for issues completely out of their control.

There are bad plumbers, bad electricians, bad farmers, and bad drivers, so it stands to reason, there are gonna be bad cops, and firemen, and don't even get me started on the bad lawyers.

These 5 Memphis cops that beat the black guy to death. Has anyone found out yet what he was pulled over for? NOPE? But everyone knows what the 5 cops did. Its on video, and there is video of the offense, but it's not being released yet. WHY?

Now, I ain't takin up for the cops cause they clearly did what they did. But weren't they fired? Weren't they arrested for the offense? Weren't they charged with murder? Aren't they gonna be prosecuted for murder?

SO WHAT IS THE PROBLEM? That's what happens to criminals. Ain't it?

I wouldn't take a badge now regardless of the salary. The country is full armchair quarterbacks with: I woulda, I coulda, they coulda, and they shoulda, when in reality, the armchair quarterbacks are just as clueless, just as "non-proactive as the lawyers bastardizing the judicial system, and just like the dumbass that wrote this article are talking out their asses, and have done nuthin, and will do nuthin but "armchair quarterback" someone else who is actually trying to make a difference. JMO