Yellowstones' John Dutton Fighting For What Is Right!

[Dee]

Yellowstone John Dutton is the epitome of conservatism. Ruthlessly fighting big government, corporate takeover, private land seizures.

A REAL AMERICAN! A MANS MAN!

Another "pretender" who not only backed Liz Cheney,  but also endorsed Peter Buttplug when he ran for president,
and says  Biden is the man for the job.

But he, and others, are really good pretenders, and we have given them the means to undermine our values by making them fabulously wealthy "entertaining us".

https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2022/11/15/kevin-costner-praises-liz-cheney-again-for-her-brave-clear-headed-stance/

[ironglow]

Costner lost credibility so far as I am concerned, when he sold out to the falsehoods of the film "500 Nations".

  Since then, I have ignored anything he does, knowing it would be twisted to the left.

  In any case, using a movie figure to demonstrate anything factual, is somewhat like trying to nail Jello to a tree..

[Dee]

Costner lost credibility so far as I am concerned, when he sold out to the falsehoods of the film "500 Nations".

  Since then, I ha e ignored anything he does, knowing it would be twisted to the left.

  In any case, using a movie figure to demonstrate anything factual, is somewhat like trying to nail Jello to a tree..

I was actually pointing out Kevin Costner as the "ultra-liberal" that he is.

[Dixie-Dude]

Dee, you and Ironglow said the same thing.  Just from a different angle.  Almost all Hollywood people are liberal.  Can't hardly watch anything but old movies or old TV shows anymore. 

[Dee]

Yeah, I  think you're right. It gets harder and harder to watch TV knowing what is going on, and the fact these clowns promote it.

[ironglow]

Costner lost credibility so far as I am concerned, when he sold out to the falsehoods of the film "500 Nations".

  Since then, I ha e ignored anything he does, knowing it would be twisted to the left.

  In any case, using a movie figure to demonstrate anything factual, is somewhat like trying to nail Jello to a tree..

I was actually pointing out Kevin Costner as the "ultra-liberal" that he is.

  Yes Dee, I was just giving you an affirmative motion.

[oldandslow]

Dee, you and Ironglow said the same thing.  Just from a different angle.  Almost all Hollywood people are liberal.  Can't hardly watch anything but old movies or old TV shows anymore.

I understand it is pretty hard to find employment in that place if you make it known you are a conservative. If I watched TV and movies based on the actor's political leanings I wouldn't watch much of anything. If you read novels do you find out the author's political bent before reading anything they write? My focus is on the tale that is told, whatever the medium. There are a lot of movies and TV that I refuse to watch because of what they promote.

I watch "Yellowstone" and have found nothing promoting liberal ideas although it does have a econut gal character that gets treated harshly. The show's focus is from Taylor Sheridan. Costner is just an actor saying his lines. If Costner were the script writer then he would be at fault if it went off on a liberal track.

[Dee]

I guess all this crap going on here I'm really starting to resent these liberal sobs more and more.

My bull got over on the Turkey Track ranch day before yesterday about 1 mile in. Really rough country, and a horse is the only way in.
I dreaded gettin started because it was about a 3 mile ride just to get to the bull. About 2 miles in I got to thinkin what a good life me and Linda have, and enjoyed the rest of the afternoon.
It was some country I'd never been in and it ended up a good ride. Found the bull, and my horse did his job.

There's really not anything any of us can do about this mess down here, but vote, and keep a gun handy.

[oldandslow]

Yep, I don't get all twisted over entertainment anymore but there are a lot of shows I refuse to watch because of their content. I haven't see anything in any of Sheridan's shows that could be considered on the liberal side.

I am glad you managed to enjoy your afternoon and I agree with voting and keeping a gun handy. At least Texas hasn't completely lost her mind yet like NM has. I saw today where a bill to require a 14 day waiting period to take possesion of a purchased gun had made it through our state house. The senate seems to to have a membership with a little higher IQ than the house so I am hoping it dies there as the little troll that occupies the governor's mansion would sign it in a heartbeat if it makes it to her desk. We also have a bill to ban magazines that hold 10 rounds (duh) but I haven't heard anything except it was introduced sometime ago. We are not striving to imitate California, we are trying to outdo them. If I were 20 years younger I would be packing my sack to move back to Texas but I'm so old a move would probably finish me off plus the water on my place over there is too crappy to drink, not that it is very good anywhere just across the state line.

I just try to get through the day without getting too upset now. That means paying little attention to mainstream news---and picking my TV, novels, and movies carefully.

[Ranger99]

Never saw the show myself.
No cable or satellite here
I do know that it's set off a new
batch of fads in this area.
People are buying hats and boots
and jeans, and have driven the
price of lever action rifles way
up past the unreasonable prices
they already were.

I've always thought it was ironic
about all the hollyweird types that
shoot em up and kill and hack up
people with edged tools on screen
are usually the ones hollering the
loudest and the mostest about
the nasty evil guns and knives and
wouldn't have a paycheck without em

Do as I say, not as I do 

[Lloyd Smale]

shows entertaining but when there advertising flavored wine coolers as cowboy beer on comericals or show yuppys wearing cowboy boots a guy has to understand its just more hollywood. Read somewhere thats theres only one real cowboy on the show and he shares a name with me, Lloyd. He supposidly did spend time as an actual cowboy.

[Dee]

shows entertaining but when there advertising flavored wine coolers as cowboy beer on comericals or show yuppys wearing cowboy boots a guy has to understand its just more hollywood. Read somewhere thats theres only one real cowboy on the show and he shares a name with me, Lloyd. He supposidly did spend time as an actual cowboy.

So did Walker (Ryan Bingham) He had alcoholic parents, and was on his own at the early age of 17. His  mother drank herself to death, and his father  committed suicide. He rodeoed, and cowboyed all over.

[Land_Owner]

Yellowstone is nostalgic, shouts for simpler places, seeks the slowing of the passage of time, collides old forces and frictions against current woke, enviro-activism, greed, and exhibits grandiose eye-popping landscapes unchanged for centuries.  However, there is NOWHERE on this American Earth where you can kill and cover up your enemies with zero responsibility in the manner and numbers the show incurs.  Murder is not an altruistic defense against change in America, regardless of the show's seemingly "respectable" intent.

[Dee]

Yellowstone is nostalgic, shouts for simpler places, seeks the slowing of the passage of time, collides old forces and frictions against current woke, enviro-activism, greed, and exhibits grandiose eye-popping landscapes unchanged for centuries.  However, there is NOWHERE on this American Earth where you can kill and cover up your enemies with zero responsibility in the manner and numbers the show incurs.  Murder is not an altruistic defense against change in America, regardless of the show's seemingly "respectable" intent.

REALLY? 

[oldandslow]

A real cowboy dreamed up the show. Taylor Sheridan grew up on a ranch. Anyone that doubts his ability to sit a horse should watch the episode where he gave a demonstration of how a cutting horse works. I guess he remains a cowboy as he has purchased the Four Sixes ranch in Texas or is, at least, the face of the purchase. I wonder if he will help at branding time? With nine shows either running or in the works I doubt he will be able to find the time. I would think rasslin' scripts would beat doing it with cows.

[ironglow]

    I know some folks who can sit a horse or rope a cow..  That doesn't make them an accurate recorder who can
      competently sort fact from fiction..

   Shucks!  I know of a guy who can "sit a corvette", but that doesn't make him any kind of a leader !     

[oldandslow]

If any movie or TV show only showed real life with no fiction it would never see the light of day. Absolutely no one would watch it as it would be no more interesting than watching grass grow. Same for novels. We watch and read for relief from the boredom of our day to day lives. I would rather watch something that isn't 100% accurate from someone like Sheridan that has knowledge enough to make it seem real even if events are somewhat exaggerated than someone that is making things up as they go. Ever wonder why so many people have so little interest in history. It's the way most of it is presented which is usually so boring you can't stay awake. That is why I like Elmer Kelton's fiction based on history so much. He grew up on a ranch and wrote novels based on Texas history which made them come alive. They presented the same facts I learned in two courses of Texas history in school but fleshed it out to where it seemed his characters actually lived those events.

[Ranger99]

Semi related-  I can't figure the modern
concept of " boredom "

Every year I get messages and such
about being "bored "
There's always something that needs
doing in front of everybody on the
planet, so that's what's hard to understand.
Especially when I hear somebody speak
of being " bored " while hunting, fishing,
or camping. They're doing it wrong

[oldandslow]

A vast number of people have no interest at all in those activities. They have no concept of the outdoors. In fact many think life is impossible without plumbing, heating, and air conditioning at the tip of your finger and wouldn't even consider trying to make something with their hands. Hunting, fishing, camping, uh uh, the boogers might get me or It will be too hot, cold, dirty, whatever.

Why do people keep their noses stuck in a phone watching videos, texting, or on a forum constantly. Boredom with their life I believe.

[Lloyd Smale]

how many unsolved murders are ther just in nyc? Mexicans that disappear, native americans on reservations? People disappear everywhere in this country and the only ones you hear about are ones that are news worthy. 

Yellowstone is nostalgic, shouts for simpler places, seeks the slowing of the passage of time, collides old forces and frictions against current woke, enviro-activism, greed, and exhibits grandiose eye-popping landscapes unchanged for centuries.  However, there is NOWHERE on this American Earth where you can kill and cover up your enemies with zero responsibility in the manner and numbers the show incurs.  Murder is not an altruistic defense against change in America, regardless of the show's seemingly "respectable" intent.

[Land_Owner]

REALLY? 

Depends on the brush and how wide the strokes it paints I suppose.  I'm not exactly sure which part/parts/or the whole of my tirade you are questioning.  O&S gave a very good rebuttal to the murder-galore and fiction for entertainment.

In retirement I have gotten quite leather backed and many tolerances have run completely dry.  So, when I seem offhanded, squirrely, or just plain nutz, I probably am.  Made in the 50's.  Some parts still working.

[Dee]

REALLY? 

Depends on the brush and how wide the strokes it paints I suppose.  I'm not exactly sure which part/parts/or the whole of my tirade you are questioning.  O&S gave a very good rebuttal to the murder-galore and fiction for entertainment.

In retirement I have gotten quite leather backed and many tolerances have run completely dry.  So, when I seem offhanded, squirrely, or just plain nutz, I probably am.  Made in the 50's.  Some parts still working.

LOL, I'm not questioning any of your tirade, it's all true. Dannys' body count on the series Blue Bloods, has to be in the hundreds.

I think I'm similar in that being born in 1950,  along with my career in the countrys' number one reality show, my imagination is  completely gone.

Actors with free airtime endorsing political idiots, political idiots running the country into the ground, and the  border down here being overran with no end in sight, makes I guess for a weak BS tolerance. 

Maybe less participation is the answer. 

[oldandslow]

You two '50's additions are little kids to me. Late '30' for me. Maybe I have become a  bit more tolerate because I could be entering my second childhood.  The more likely case is I just don't have the energy to get all upset and frazzled over someone that doesn't exactly share my political views but pretty well keeps their mouth shut about it. I can still become really annoyed with those that are loudmouthed so I'm not totally gone yet.

[ironglow]

  Costner also produced "Dances with Wolves"...  Here's a story on one of the actors in that show;

   https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2023/jan/31/nathan-chasing-horse-dances-wolves-actor-arrested-/?cx_testId=18&cx_testVariant=cx_1&cx_artPos=0&cx_experienceId=E

   Ho~hum..just more "Hollywood"..
 

[Land_Owner]

Can you be held in poor esteem, by association, for the actions of another or through an entire Group if painting with a broad brush? 

If so, then that I am in part to blame for the killing of one and the shooting of five more in the RS&H Orlando Office in 2009 by former Associate Jason Rodriguez, whom I did not know.  I worked for the same company, in the Merritt Island Office at the time - thus "guilt" by association?

[so far off the rails] - I do not envy your memories Dee, of man's inhumanity toward man, or those of you that fought beside and watched your fellow soldiers die for the Freedoms we will STILL die to defend.  I do get quite melancholy when I start to think about my service in comparison to your own.  In my Book, it doesn't. 

Yes, my "blank check" was written, and nearly cashed once in the normal sequence of events on a Buoy Tender.  Later, pushing a computer keyboard for a career isn't "sexy", pays the mortgage, affords "luxuries", puts aside something for retirement, and depending on the environment for which those keys are pressed, some days can be Gold Letter (Rocket Launch, Landing, Retrieval, etc.).  Still, an old man gets misty eyed sometimes...

[Lloyd Smale]

just saw where costner got inot a pissing match with the management and next season Mathew Mcconahy will be in that roll. that will probably be the end of that show. Probably 3/4s of the viewers are 50 some women who lust after costner and rip.

[oldandslow]

  Costner also produced "Dances with Wolves"...  Here's a story on one of the actors in that show;

   https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2023/jan/31/nathan-chasing-horse-dances-wolves-actor-arrested-/?cx_testId=18&cx_testVariant=cx_1&cx_artPos=0&cx_experienceId=E

   Ho~hum..just more "Hollywood"..
 

What does this have to do with his performance in "Dances With Wolves" over thirty years ago? He might have been an upstanding person back then.