Ok, IG, I agree that abortion is wrong. I can't support the position that it is ok, but I know many folks I like and respect who disagree with me in my position. For their own reasons and from their own study of the issue and after accepting salvation from Jesus, they still support abortion as a necessary medical procedure (something I disagree with). I still consider them to be persons of good will and am willing to agree to disagree on this issue. Their belief is not a "red line" for me to consider them persons of good will with whom I can agree to disagree. I think we have beaten this to death, and probably need to agree to disagree with oldandslow in his position. Thanks for an interesting and valuable discussion. gene