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Offline Dee

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Re: No Abrams tanks for Ukraine..
« Reply #30 on: March 04, 2023, 08:24:22 AM »
Ukraine had 2400 tanks a year ago when the conflict started.
Now they're down to a few; and they're demanding NATO to send more.
What's up with that?
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FAKE NEWS

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2023/02/16/ukraine-is-going-to-run-out-of-t-64-tanks/?sh=3e2736bb6b69

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Forbes is talking about t64 units

At the start of conflict Ukraine had approx 2000 to 2500 tanks and armored vehicles with firepower. --->>

https://www.globalfirepower.com/country-military-strength-detail.php?country_id=ukraine

Problem is Ukraine does inaccurate keeping records on which the losses or service vehicles are keep on ready list.

In fact, if Forbes claims Ukraine still has 850 tanks in service that maybe close but I suspect more than likely half that number due to Ukrainian lying. In any case, the sure seem desperate for more armor.
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Armored vehicles aren't the same as tanks.
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Re: No Abrams tanks for Ukraine..
« Reply #31 on: March 04, 2023, 11:53:53 AM »
T-84

The T-84 is a Ukrainian main battle tank (MBT), based on the Soviet T-80 MBT introduced in 1976, specifically the diesel engine version: T-80UD. The T-84 was first built in 1994 and entered service in the Ukrainian Armed Forces in 1999. Its high-performance opposed-piston engine makes it a fast tank, comparable to other modern MBTs with a power-to-weight ratio of about 26 horsepower per tonne (19 kW/t).



T-84
    Ukrainian MBT based on the T-80UD. New welded turret and Shtora-1 countermeasures suite, new electronics, new main gun, new armor, and 1,200 hp (895 kW) 6TD-2 diesel engine.

T-84U
    Ukrainian upgrade of the T-84. New armoured side skirts, turret-conformal Kontakt-5 explosive reactive armour, auxiliary power unit, thermal imaging sight, satellite navigation, commander's laser range-finder, muzzle reference system, and other improvements.

T-84 Oplot
    T-84U with a new welded turret and an additional ammunition compartment mounted to the turret bustle. This "Ammunition Bunker" is separated from the crew to protect them in the event of an ammunition cookoff.[10]

T-84-120 Yatagan
    A prototype version of Oplot tailored for evaluation by the Turkish Army (prototype designation, KERN2-120). Mounts a 120 mm main gun which fires both NATO 120 mm rounds (like the M829 DU series) and a special 120 mm version of the AT-11 Sniper ATGM. Most significantly, the Yatagan features a completely redesigned "Cassette style" bustle mounted autoloader[11] (similar to 'Leclerc' or 'K2 Black Panther'), replacing the soviet-era carousel autoloader. This redesign allows all ammunition in the ready-rack to be separated from the crew and equipped with blowout panels, features considered standard for NATO MBTs. It also has automated gear shifting in place of a mechanical gear selector, driver's T-bar control replacing tiller bars, air conditioning, and projectile muzzle velocity sensor, and differences in the fire control system, communications, etc.

T-84 Oplot-M
    Modernized, or "BM Oplot": The newest and most sophisticated version of the T-84 is an upgraded version of the "T-84 Oplot" mounting more advanced armor, new electronic countermeasure systems, and others. One visible feature is the new PNK-6 panoramic tank sight.[12][13]

T-84 Oplot-T
    "BM Oplot-T" is an export version for Thailand.[14] It has some minor modifications to meet local requirements, such as different radio, air conditioner and so on.[citation needed] Thailand ordered 49 of these tanks. Originally it was planned that all of them will be delivered by 2014. However, due to ongoing military conflict in Ukraine, the delivery was postponed to and completed in 2018.[15]
BREM-84 Atlet
    Armoured recovery vehicle based on the T-84 Oplot chassis
BREM-T
    Armoured recovery vehicle[16] based on the T-84 Oplot-T chassis.
BMU-84
    Bridgelayer tank.
BTMP-84
    Heavy infantry fighting vehicle prototype based on the T-84 Oplot tank, with lengthened hull, an extra pair of road wheels, and a rear compartment for five infantrymen.