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Offline sureshot2040

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shilo sharps or a browning 1885????
« on: March 14, 2004, 11:24:21 AM »
which gun is better ?? as far as being more accurate and also being the strongest action?
my cousin is dying to own a new single shot.
he cant make up his mind which of the two mentioned above to buy.
so if any you got any opinions to help confuse him more, yall let me know
thanks,
sureshot
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shiloh sharps or browning
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2004, 06:58:37 PM »
I have two shiloh sharps both in 45/70 and I only shoot black powder. I don't have a browning,but have been to many bpcr silhouette matches where they were being used.They are a fine rifle but the trigger needs work,and they are getting hard to find at a good price.For my money the shiloh is right,they have great service, great triggers and are plenty strong of an action. They also have a few rifles on hand and for sale. Hope this helps in his selection
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« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2004, 05:28:29 PM »
They both are great rifles, full of history and flair...I have both and also a rolling block...if I were to only have one rifle, it would be the rolling block, then the high wall, followed by the Sharps...the rolling block gives me a great prone platform without the lever and has a great lock time versus the Sharp...the high wall also has a better lock time versus the Sharp...

Maintenance and care would be best in the falling block and rolling block...the Sharps have more problems...whatever you get, you can't really go wrong with any of the great single-shot rifles...

Jack


BTW, mine are all originals and not replicas, so I can only speak for the real deal and not the newer designs...
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« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2004, 10:08:15 PM »
Have him rent the movie "Quigley Down Under", and that'll answer the question for him.   Great movie, great gun.   :D
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« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2004, 07:46:19 AM »
I have a Shiloh Sharps in 45-70 and also shoot black powder cartridges only. I also have an Original Remington Rolling Block. The Shiloh Sharps is a better made gun and can handle any 45-70 smokeless round made. My hunting buddy and good friend has a Shiloh Sharps also in 45-70 and neither one of use have had any problems at all. The Shiloh Sharps is more expensive then either the Rolling block or the Browning. If you laid all three in front of me and told me to chose one it would be the Shiloh Sharps. The gun is just a plain classic. My order of preference would be Shiloh Sharps, Remington Rolling Block and the Browning. But your buddy would be well served with any of the three.   :D
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« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2004, 08:08:28 AM »
I’ve also got a Shiloh Sharps, and it’s a great rifle. Please keep in mind that the Browning is not true to the original High Wall design, it’s a modern interpretation. If I’m not mistaken, the HW design is considerably stronger than the Sharps 74 design. This won’t make one bit of difference though with BP loaded cartridges, or sanely loaded smokeless loads.

If you want to look at a great faithful HW reproduction take a look at one of the Ballard HWs. I’ve got two of their Special Sporting Rifles with DSTs that I shoot in Silhouette and I just took delivery of one of their Low Walls in .22RF that matches my big guns for practice.

http://www.ballardrifles.com/Winchester-products.htm

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« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2004, 12:23:56 AM »
Quote from: Coydog C.
I’ve also got a Shiloh Sharps, and it’s a great rifle. Please keep in mind that the Browning is not true to the original High Wall design, it’s a modern interpretation. If I’m not mistaken, the HW design is considerably stronger than the Sharps 74 design. This won’t make one bit of difference though with BP loaded cartridges, or sanely loaded smokeless loads.

Chuck


Chuck, just to give you a little info. The Shiloh Sharps will handle anything the Ruger #1 will put out. The reason the Shiloh Sharps is loaded with the black powder cartridges is to keep to the original nostalgia of the gun. Kirk at Shiloh Sharps will tell you the Shiloh Sharps will handle any load the Ruger #1 can with no problems at all.
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« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2004, 02:51:21 AM »
Redhawk1,

    Yup, I know. But if you go back to any of the old writings such as “The Breech-Loading Single-Shot Rifle” by Ned Roberts, and Ken waters the High Wall is considered to be a stronger action. As a matter of fact, it was used to test new high intensity cartridges during development. One of the strongest is said to be the Sharps Borshardt.  But, that’s why I said that for BP or sane smokeless loads you’ll never notice any difference.

Don’t get me wrong, the 74 is a great action, but it’s heavy, and in a match rifle (silhouette) that extra action weight must be made up somewhere. My HW Silhouette rifle makes weight with a 32” #4 barrel with presentation grade (dense) wood. It just couldn’t be done with a 74. Besides lighter, the HW action (or Browning) is faster. I don’t mean just in lock time either. The hammer doesn’t need to be brought to half cock to open the breech, and it cocks on closing. During a 12 minute string, this is a pretty cool feature when you need to make up some time.  

Since discovering HWs, my poor Shiloh has become pretty much a safe queen  :(


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« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2004, 03:32:20 AM »
Chuck, I'll take your Shiloh out and give it the attention it needs. LOL :) A Shiloh Sharps is like a beautiful woman, someone else will like it more than you and would be willing to take it off your hands.  :D  :-D   :grin:  :)  :wink:
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« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2004, 04:14:27 PM »
I have never owned a Browning, but I have owned the Shiloh Sharps, and a couple of High Walls.
 I'd take the Shiloh over the Browning any day! Although as much as I love the Shiloh Sharps, I have to agree with Coydog. I'd take the HW over the Sharps. Just personal preference, not because it's any better. I just love the feel and action better.
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« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2004, 03:21:25 AM »
Redhawk1,

    Thanks! I’d take you up on your kind offer, but I’ve got to hang on to the Shiloh. You see, down by the Federal Pen they’ve got this buffalo corral, and I just know that one of these days one of them is going to get loose. I figure that by being the only guy in town with a “real” buffalo rifle I’ll be in a good position to save the day.  :mrgreen: I’ve got 6 45-2.6” paper-patched bullets loaded up….just in case. I’d feel kind of funny using a High Wall. :(

Back to the original question, there is no question…if deciding between the Browning and the Shiloh, get the Shiloh!

Chuck
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« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2004, 05:58:23 AM »
Redhawk1,, I own 3 Brownings, a Trapdoor, a RB, and a Ballard.  I will be purchasing a Sharps in the near future. The history and attrraction of these single shots cannot be ignored. Buy what you can afford the first time and be prepared to spend more in the future. RPbump
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