What not to like about Trump?

[Goldie]

I'm gonna start over  First I am not a Trump Hater. Second I hope Trump is reelected, even though I doubt he will. Third If he is elected I hope he picks better people around him to get things done. I'm done now.

[Dee]

I'm gonna start over  First I am not a Trump Hater. Second I hope Trump is reelected, even though I doubt he will. Third If he is elected I hope he picks better people around him to get things done. I'm done now.

Goldie I don't think anybody here is a Trump hater. I also don't think its a good idea for Trump to attack a sitting governor because of what Trump thinks "he might do". Trump is gonna need all the political alliances he can muster.

[DDZ]

I didn't really care all that much that Trump is a narcissist. I did like what he was trying to do for this country when all the democrats and some of the republican party were against him.  Now if we could just find that perfect human being to vote for.

[Dee]

I didn't really care all that much that Trump is a narcissist. I did like what he was trying to do for this country when all the democrats and some of the republican party were against him.  Now if we could just find that perfect human being to vote for.

Trump is an excessive braggart, bully, womanizer, person who can't pick the right personnel, but HE damn sure got the job done and I believe He is the only one who can get it done. But alas I don't think He will make it back again. The left will make sure of it. And if someone remotely like him does the RHINOS in power will help the democrats in insuring that nothing will get done again, period.

Agreed. It takes a narcissist of Trumps magnitude to withstand the constant bombardment, and betrayal that most of Congress has, and will deal out.

Trump represents the exposure of all of Congressional double dealing exposed.

I to am not confident of his being re-elected, but if he is the republican nominee, he has my vote.

Well DDZ, one or two have completely missed my point concerning Trump being a narcissist. It takes someone like Trump to withstand the constant bombardment from every direction, and not fold under the pressure,  and I've said that consistently for over 6 years. In fact I said so in post #3 of this thread. You have to take the remark in context of what's being said, instead of zeroing in on one word.

[Goldie]

Yea when a thread starts out the way this one is stated it's hard to say what's wrong with Trump when you actually admire him for doing what he has done. I guess some here don't like it when you try and describe Trump's actual traits and how they are perceived by people. I know i will get remarks back but when describing these people from snow bird states like my wife and me do, it's a running joke between us that people from cold ass states brains haven't thawed out! OK let me have it. I'm ready.

[Dee]

Yea when a thread starts out the way this one is stated it's hard to say what's wrong with Trump when you actually admire him for doing what he has done. I guess some here don't like it when you try and describe Trump's actual traits and how they are perceived by people. I know i will get remarks back but when describing these people from snow bird states like my wife and me do, it's a running joke between us that people from cold ass states brains haven't thawed out! OK let me have it. I'm ready.

Well, I guess my narcissist remarks went over one or two heads, but when somebody is so sensitive that they miss the point, there isn't much you can do.
The funniest part is minniesoda is as blue as it gets, and is the record holder for consistently staying blue.
Maybe it is a thawing problem. 

[ironglow]

 Yes; a bit over 1.5 years, can be an 'eternity' in politics...and NW was correct , when he said politics is a dirty business..just as he described it...

  At present however, it appears we must elect Trump...or allow the country to lapse further into communism and satanic chaos.

[Dee]

I don't think anybody here would be against 4 more years of Trump, but I think name calling of "potential opponents" is a mistake. What if DeSantis doesn't run? You can't un-ring the name calling bell.
I don't for a minute think its necessary in politics.

[ironglow]

    For sure, I don' like the name calling either.  DeSantis has not yet declared, but don't be surprised if he does the
     same , once he declares.
   Do you recall how he, Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio, went after one another, during the debates?  ..Still, they worked well
   together, and accomplished much during the Trump administration.

   Then there was Kamala Harris, accusing Biden of various unsavory activities and actions, during their debate.
  Still he (or his handlers) chose her as a running mate..   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1OvDB_wavI

      Somehow though, she missed out on the dementia & hair sniffing..

   Yeah, politics is dirty...but the politicians have already forgotten it, long before we do.

[Mule 11]

This topic was posted asking what Trump haters did not like about him. IMO I believe President Trump was and is bashed coming and going, sure don’t need to add to that on the open web. He is our most patriotic and best President since George Washington and it pisses me off that the pricks got away with placing the diaper wearing puppet in office with that pos butt pirate obama pulling his strings...

[ironglow]

Surely, the list posted in the OP, makes up for any personality bred dislikes which may be present.  His accomplishments so fat outweigh any complaints..so I for one, can live with them..

[Dee]

I for one viewed the "op list" as being sarcasm. Guess it wasn't supposed to be intended that way. Had only "actual Trump haters only" responded on this forum I doubt you would have gotten more than one response.

I didn't  pick up on it being for actual Trump haters. Especially on GBO. I would imagine that anyone else that responded saw it the same way I did. The op posted as sarcasm, which I now see wasn't intended that way.

[ironglow]

I for one viewed the "op list" as being sarcasm. Guess it wasn't supposed to be intended that way. Had only "actual Trump haters only" responded on this forum I doubt you would have gotten more than one response.

I didn't  pick up on it being for actual Trump haters. Especially on GBO. I would imagine that anyone else that responded saw it the same way I did. The op posted as sarcasm, which I now see wasn't intended that way.

  No problem..there were some legitimate complaints.  I would be happy with either Trump or DeSantis.  Unlike the Dems, the Republicans seem to have a number of good potential candidates.

[nw_hunter]

I truly believe that regardless of who's elected President, things at the Federal level will continue to go down hill. Perhaps not as quickly with a Republican at the helm, but down hill anyway. The Globalists are firmly entrenched in Washington, and are not leaving without something catastrophic happening.
 I prefer Trump as President again, but will vote for the Republican choice to run against the Socialists. (Unless it's a Mitt Romney) type.:-) Sounding like a broken record, I still believe if we are to restore order to a once great nation, it will be done outside of DC, at the state levels.

Whats not to like about Trump? Lots of things negative come to mind, but even more positive reasons to like him as President.

[Casull]

I truly believe that regardless of who's elected President, things at the Federal level will continue to go down hill. Perhaps not as quickly with a Republican at the helm, but down hill anyway. The Globalists are firmly entrenched in Washington, and are not leaving without something catastrophic happening.
 I prefer Trump as President again, but will vote for the Republican choice to run against the Socialists. (Unless it's a Mitt Romney) type.:-) Sounding like a broken record, I still believe if we are to restore order to a once great nation, it will be done outside of DC, at the state levels.

Whats not to like about Trump? Lots of things negative come to mind, but even more positive reasons to like him as President.

This.

[Mule 11]

I truly believe that regardless of who's elected President, things at the Federal level will continue to go down hill. Perhaps not as quickly with a Republican at the helm, but down hill anyway. The Globalists are firmly entrenched in Washington, and are not leaving without something catastrophic happening.
 I prefer Trump as President again, but will vote for the Republican choice to run against the Socialists. (Unless it's a Mitt Romney) type.:-) Sounding like a broken record, I still believe if we are to restore order to a once great nation, it will be done outside of DC, at the state levels.

Whats not to like about Trump? Lots of things negative come to mind, but even more positive reasons to like him as President.

I believe my first op post on this site dealt with backing President Trump and the herd busted my chops over trivial verbage technicalities in my opening post instead of backing President Trump as I “suggested”

[Bob Riebe]

Trumps mouth spewing insecurity and other childish feces is what can defeat him.

He reminds me of Gov. Turnbuckle Ventura, who beat Rep. and Dem. condidates with family political history, only Ventura was an oddball isecure dude with what ever political ideas serven him, not others, at THAT time.

[Mule 11]

He was also a navy seal. You?

[ironglow]

From Goldie in reply #34;

   " I know i will get remarks back but when describing these people from snow bird states like my wife and me do, it's a running joke between us that people from cold ass states brains haven't thawed out! OK let me have it. I'm ready"

   Goldie.. If you truly think that way, and it isn't just Pearl or tequila speaking, it doesn't tell us a thing about the people from 'cold states', but it sure tells us a great deal about you..

[Bob Riebe]

He was also a navy seal. You?

So what?

[Goldie]

And what does that say about me oh great one? You seem to know everything in the universe so let's hear it. Please. And no it wasn't the kool aid, pearl or tequila. Maybe you should try some, might mellow you out a little.

From Goldie in reply #34;

   " I know i will get remarks back but when describing these people from snow bird states like my wife and me do, it's a running joke between us that people from cold ass states brains haven't thawed out! OK let me have it. I'm ready"

   Goldie.. If you truly think that way, and it isn't just Pearl or tequila speaking, it doesn't tell us a thing about the people from 'cold states', but it sure tells us a great deal about you..

[ironglow]

  OK Goldie..let's review your claim;

   " I know i will get remarks back but when describing these people from snow bird states like my wife and me do, it's a running joke between us that people from cold ass states brains haven't thawed out! OK let me have it. I'm ready"

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   You statement indicates that you assume that people from the north seem to suffer from some kind of a permanent "brain freeze"..  An apparent "geographical assignment" conclusion...

  So perhaps by using the same form of logic, can you also tell us if;

 1) The people living at 5,000 ft of elevation are smarter than folks who live at 1,000 ft of elevation?

 2) Are people who live in the forest more or less intelligent than those who live on  the plains?

 3) Or perhaps people who live on the ocean shore..are more intelligent than those who dwell on the lake shore..

 4)  Applying your measure, are the people in southern Poland smarter than those living in northern Poland?

  How about those in southern France vs northern France, or southern England vs northern England..?

 5) How about eastern vs western Spain?

   Or is this whole idea of regional intelligence, some kind of archaic and outmoded prejudice, cooked up by angry agitators over 150 years ago ?

[Goldie]

 Well when you put it so deliberate and eloquent who is to say ? I guess I have to go by voting records then. Sound better to you?   

[Dee]

Well when you put it so deliberate and eloquent who is to say ? I guess I have to go by voting records then. Sound better to you?

LOL, he's been practicing for years, trying to change my mind. Maybe he can tell you about the nice Texans he met when he was in Texas for a short time many years ago.
I assured him they were polite because they knew he wasn't staying, but he's convinced its just me. 

[TrumpWon]

If you follow some commentators here there  are still geographical areas you can compare. You are allowed to make wild unfounded prejudicial comments comparing city folk to country folk. 

[ironglow]

Well when you put it so deliberate and eloquent who is to say ? I guess I have to go by voting records then. Sound better to you?

   You could consult Scientific American, but then there are variouse reasons, well beyond geographical location.

  https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-is-average-iq-higher-in-some-places/#:~:text=Average%20IQ%20varies%20in%20the,are%20near%20the%20low%20end.)

[ironglow]

Well when you put it so deliberate and eloquent who is to say ? I guess I have to go by voting records then. Sound better to you?

LOL, he's been practicing for years, trying to change my mind. Maybe he can tell you about the nice Texans he met when he was in Texas for a short time many years ago.
I assured him they were polite because they knew he wasn't staying, but he's convinced its just me. 

     I expect there are many people through the years who may have tried to 'change your mind' about simple issues...and I suspect their success was no greater than my own.

  Yes, I only spent a bit over 4 years in Texas, and for the most part, those I knew were congenial folk ! Oh yes, there were a some die-hard old crows, still fighting a war that ended a century and a half earlier. 
   ..But they were few and far between, and for the most part ignored by the more mentally adroit majority, they lived among.

[ironglow]

If you follow some commentators here there  are still geographical areas you can compare. You are allowed to make wild unfounded prejudicial comments comparing city folk to country folk. 

   Again, you misread and misconstrue... My political opinions there were not unfounded or prejudicial, but rather a matter of deductive reasoning
   ..Clearly, you should have noted that my appraisals were political, rather than intellectual, a malady they can easily r   ecover from.  At least, I think most Democrats could recover, if they tried.
   
    I also allowed for exceptions....even in the largest cities..

[Mule 11]

What not to like about President Trump? Not much... Best President in my lifetime.

[Goldie]

Well when you put it so deliberate and eloquent who is to say ? I guess I have to go by voting records then. Sound better to you?

LOL, he's been practicing for years, trying to change my mind. Maybe he can tell you about the nice Texans he met when he was in Texas for a short time many years ago.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Well if a person lives in Texas for anytime at all and they choose to move back to New York that certainly proves my point of brain freeze. No doubt about it.