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Re: Trump indicted..
« Reply #30 on: April 03, 2023, 03:08:49 PM »
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you are one of those perverted socialist teachers. its your generation of teachers that snuck all this anti Christian belief into the school system.
What anti-christian belief is that, specifically?
What, exactly, makes a teacher a “socialist teacher”?

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Re: Trump indicted..
« Reply #31 on: April 03, 2023, 03:24:49 PM »
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you are one of those perverted socialist teachers. its your generation of teachers that snuck all this anti Christian belief into the school system.
What anti-christian belief is that, specifically?
What, exactly, makes a teacher a “socialist teacher”?

Pushing youngsters to question their gender is just one example, for an anti -Christian belief. Believing that it is a teachers business to pervert youngsters..

As far as using the term, "Socialist", perhaps the term, "Leftist" would have been a better word to use instead of "Socialist".
I tend to use them inter-changeably.
"Commie", is just as good a descriptor.

Heck, "Perverted" used alone, would likely have worked just as well.

Regardless,
I don't think I need to give any more than that, even though I could cite more.

I just don't have the time for responding to any more of your questions.
I saw your ignorance earlier.

And to be honest. I don't like the crap I have been seeing coming from you & that one who I consider a mentally ill person that I don't respond to any longer. No need for me to be an enabler to the illness. Best to just ignore & not respond.

I think in order to not break any of the rules here, I should refrain from commenting directly to you in the future.
I think doing as I did, by just waving the flag in front of the both of ya, worked just fine to paint the wagons RED enough.

The last two posts/comments before this one is evidence enough, unless either one would like to delete them.

They are what I expected from either one of ya, & that is enough for me to prove my point.



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Re: Trump indicted..
« Reply #32 on: April 03, 2023, 04:22:31 PM »
Was it unconstitutional for Trump to ban bump stocks?

   Sure...and all the while you can rest assured the Demonrats were fighting to preserve 2nd amendment !  ;) :D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D ;D

  Four thousand comedians out of work...and here comes Trumpy... :D :D ;D ;D

   Does Stormy's sworn statement break your heart as surely as it breaks the left's web of lies?

 
If you don't want the truth, don't ask me.  If you want something sugar coated...go eat a donut !  (anon)

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Re: Trump indicted..
« Reply #33 on: April 03, 2023, 04:43:06 PM »
Was it unconstitutional for Trump to ban bump stocks?

   Sure...and all the while you can rest assured the Demonrats were fighting to preserve 2nd amendment !  ;) :D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D ;D

  Four thousand comedians out of work...and here comes Trumpy... :D :D ;D ;D

   Does Stormy's sworn statement break your heart as surely as it breaks the left's web of lies?

 

I wouldn't expect Trump, or any other married man to voluntarily own up to such a thing. Trump has over the years proven to be a rich playboy so the water has always been a little muddy.
Before he married Melania he loaned her his jet for her nude photo shoot to help  her career. So who really knows what the truth is? Even if he did, what does it matter?
Donald Trump was an outstanding president, but his morality outside the job likely don't coincide with the average guy.

https://www.factcheck.org/2023/03/stormy-daniels-said-2018-letter-denying-she-had-sex-with-trump-is-a-lie/

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/naked-truth-melania-man-disrobed/story?id=40663883
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Re: Trump indicted..
« Reply #34 on: April 03, 2023, 05:22:33 PM »
Was it unconstitutional for Trump to ban bump stocks?

   Sure...and all the while you can rest assured the Demonrats were fighting to preserve 2nd amendment !  ;) :D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D ;D

  Four thousand comedians out of work...and here comes Trumpy... :D :D ;D ;D

   Does Stormy's sworn statement break your heart as surely as it breaks the left's web of lies?

 

I wouldn't expect Trump, or any other married man to voluntarily own up to such a thing. Trump has over the years proven to be a rich playboy so the water has always been a little muddy.
Before he married Melania he loaned her his jet for her nude photo shoot to help  her career. So who really knows what the truth is? Even if he did, what does it matter?

https://www.factcheck.org/2023/03/stormy-daniels-said-2018-letter-denying-she-had-sex-with-trump-is-a-lie/

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/naked-truth-melania-man-disrobed/story?id=40663883

    Still relying on "fact checkers" I see?  Most of us learned long ago to pass on them...and I sure wouldn't help them spread their
  bull scat.
If you don't want the truth, don't ask me.  If you want something sugar coated...go eat a donut !  (anon)

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Re: Trump indicted..
« Reply #35 on: April 03, 2023, 05:32:50 PM »
Was it unconstitutional for Trump to ban bump stocks?

   Sure...and all the while you can rest assured the Demonrats were fighting to preserve 2nd amendment !  ;) :D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D ;D

  Four thousand comedians out of work...and here comes Trumpy... :D :D ;D ;D

   Does Stormy's sworn statement break your heart as surely as it breaks the left's web of lies?

 

I wouldn't expect Trump, or any other married man to voluntarily own up to such a thing. Trump has over the years proven to be a rich playboy so the water has always been a little muddy.
Before he married Melania he loaned her his jet for her nude photo shoot to help  her career. So who really knows what the truth is? Even if he did, what does it matter?

https://www.factcheck.org/2023/03/stormy-daniels-said-2018-letter-denying-she-had-sex-with-trump-is-a-lie/

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/naked-truth-melania-man-disrobed/story?id=40663883

    Still relying on "fact checkers" I see?  Most of us learned long ago to pass on them...and I sure wouldn't help them spread their
  bull scat.

Facts are written by different authors, and the facts are often differing from author to author. As is your usual MO, totally missed my point. Your skin is so thin you could read a newspaper through it.
I'll highlight my point and see if you can grasp it.
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Re: Trump indicted..
« Reply #36 on: April 03, 2023, 05:57:11 PM »
"  Still relying on "fact checkers" I see?  Most of us learned long ago to pass on them...and I sure wouldn't help them spread their
  bull scat."

You last used one on March 13th in your "Poor Joe" hoax post

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Re: Trump indicted..
« Reply #37 on: April 04, 2023, 01:23:05 AM »
"  Still relying on "fact checkers" I see?  Most of us learned long ago to pass on them...and I sure wouldn't help them spread their
  bull scat."

You last used one on March 13th in your "Poor Joe" hoax post

    Again, you just didn't "get it".  The irony of that post, that is. 

   That is partly my fault, because ai didn't add that.."even the far left  fact checkers, are coming around to admit that poor Joe is
   losing his marbles".
   ..Not that I consider them a good source, but when even the leftist "fact checkers" admit that he is senile, that must have been as
  tough on the fact checker, as the Stormy affadavit is on you lefties.

  Here, check out that "fact checker' post, one more time;

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2023/feb/28/facebook-posts/that-video-of-president-joe-biden-discussing-alien/

 
 

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Re: Trump indicted..
« Reply #38 on: April 04, 2023, 01:27:32 AM »
  From Dee;
 
   
I wouldn't expect Trump, or any other married man to voluntarily own up to such a thing. Trump has over the years proven to be a rich playboy so the water has always been a little muddy.
Before he married Melania he loaned her his jet for her nude photo shoot to help  her career. So who really knows what the truth is? Even if he did, what does it matter?
Donald Trump was an outstanding president, but his morality outside the job likely don't coincide with the average guy.

https://www.factcheck.org/2023/03/stormy-daniels-said-2018-letter-denying-she-had-sex-with-trump-is-a-lie/

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/naked-truth-melania-man-disrobed/story?id=40663883

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   Trumpy and Dee, such knights in shining armor, joining together to defend Stormy's 'virtue' !  ;) :D

      ..We now have two affidavits, sworn to and signed by Stormy, which says she never had any contact with Donald Trump!

       Pray tell us...was she lying then...or is she lying now?

   
If you don't want the truth, don't ask me.  If you want something sugar coated...go eat a donut !  (anon)
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Re: Trump indicted..
« Reply #39 on: April 04, 2023, 02:33:17 AM »
  From Dee;
 
   
I wouldn't expect Trump, or any other married man to voluntarily own up to such a thing. Trump has over the years proven to be a rich playboy so the water has always been a little muddy.
Before he married Melania he loaned her his jet for her nude photo shoot to help  her career. So who really knows what the truth is? Even if he did, what does it matter?
Donald Trump was an outstanding president, but his morality outside the job likely don't coincide with the average guy.

https://www.factcheck.org/2023/03/stormy-daniels-said-2018-letter-denying-she-had-sex-with-trump-is-a-lie/

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/naked-truth-melania-man-disrobed/story?id=40663883

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   Trumpy and Dee, such knights in shining armor, joining together to defend Stormy's 'virtue' !  ;) :D

      ..We now have two affidavits, sworn to and signed by Stormy, which says she never had any contact with Donald Trump!

       Pray tell us...was she lying then...or is she lying now?

 

You really are as thick as winter molasses. I wasn't defending either, I was saying that no one really knows the real truth.
Your sounding like someone else that has recently departed the site.
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Re: Trump indicted..
« Reply #40 on: April 04, 2023, 09:54:31 AM »
JBinMN: If you are true to your word, you will not be reading this. OK. Understood. What is not understood is “the last two posts before this one”. My posts? I made a single post asking two questions. That is what I do….I ask questions. I ask for clarification of overly generalized statements….which are endemic to this forum. An example is your comment about pushing students to question gender. The way you write it, all teachers do it. That is just not so. You paint with a pretty broad brush. It is sloppy thinking and it bothers me.
The judgements about socialists/leftists/ communists are another example. Anyone who does not give you an “atta boy” ends up with one of those labels. I wonder whether you actually know what they are or whether they are merely convenient labels that you use for people you do not like.?,,,,,,,,,,
I am not trying to defend teachers teaching things that you find sinful.  I am looking to clarify, to get to specifics not sweeping generalities.

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Re: Trump indicted..
« Reply #41 on: April 04, 2023, 01:29:26 PM »
Hmmmm...

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-awarded-nearly-122k-attorney-fees-stormy-daniels

Interesting to hear that this Daniels chick is paying Trump big bucks.
 I wonder why that is ??... <sarcasm

And now Trump is supposedly been indicted & arraigned for charges stemming from one of His Accountants possibly putting the wrong amount(s) in the wrong place(s)/column(s), for business dealings on tax documents that pertain to this Daniels chick?

Hmmm.

I , personally did something similar, once about 20+/- years ago on my taxes, and mistaken claimed a credit I was not due. As a result, I got a letter from the IRS stating that they corrected the mistake & my tax payment would be increased above what I sent in according to the 1040+ forms I originally sent in.

I also used to do my 2 sons taxes for them & taught them how to do it, long ago before they got a grip on such things & then eventually they did well enough to hire accountants to do that business/tax stuff.
Had I made a mistake on one of their tax forms, guess who would be responsible for any errors?

I would be the one responsible for any mistakes in calculation, since I was the one who prepared the documents, not any of my sons.

Even though they signed off on that they thought it was correct, it was/is the one(s) who PREPARE those documents that will be the ones to make mistakes if any are made, and thus are responsible for any mistakes.

 Particularly, as in the case of DJT, for someone who make Millions or more $$$, with MULTIPLE businesses.
The Owners/CEOs/etc. don't do the doggone taxes, they pay ACCOUNTANTS to do that work.

So, why isn't/aren't the accountant(s) being indicted for these business mistakes?

IT IS BECAUSE THEY ARE AFTER TRUMP FOR POLITICAL & OTHER TWISTED REASONS.

They(Both A. Bragg & Letitia- whatever her last name is) ran for office on the platform of "going after Trump".

  If someone can't figure out that this BS attempt to take out, or financially irritate DJT is already just a circus, with plenty of Demshoviks clowns having a severe case of Trump Derangement Syndrome(TDS), and all this is after TWO YEARS after he left office.
Supposedly beaten in ( I think, "rigged") election, by someone who supposedly got more doggone votes EVER, by ANYONE EVER,  to be elected US Prez, and spent instead of actively campaigning, spent most of the time in his basement.

Why the angst against Trump?

Since the Demshovik leftists got what they wanted & think they have the BEST Prez there ever was... since they supposedly got him elected in a doggone landslide, Geeez... What are they worried about for 2024 that they have to play these political BS games?

Hint... It is because they know that 2020 prez election was rigged for FJB, & it is gonna be a lot harder to do the same thing again in 2024 as DJT gains even MORE votes.
The political circus we are currently seeing far & wide, is only giving DJT free publicity & when the case is tossed out & he is shown to have been targeted by the Leftist Demshoviks, he is gonna get more votes.

Lastly, & one thing some of ya may have not considered, but by this BS circus attempt to go after a former President , (that apparently/seemingly, is no longer in office), it sets a precedence, regardless of whether or not Trump ends up convicted, that it is OKAY to go after those who have left office, even after the statute of limitations has run out, for criminal activities they may or may not have committed.

Hmmm.

Think about the current dope playing Prez & then ones who came before him & DJT who are still around... Bet they have skeletons in their closets.

Buck up Leftist Demshovik buttercups, might just be your turn next time for the circus to come to town.

cya. bye.

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Re: Trump indicted..
« Reply #42 on: April 04, 2023, 01:52:52 PM »
If an accountant makes an error, or errors, when doing someones' taxes, THE ACCOUNTANT,  OR PERSON ACTUALLY DOING THE TAXES "IS NOT LIABLE", liability falls on the person whose taxes are being reported. Which is why tax accountants always say that if you are audited the accountant, or accounting company will go with you to your IRS hearing.

https://www.findlaw.com/legalblogs/small-business/is-your-accountant-liable-if-youre-audited/
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Re: Trump indicted..
« Reply #43 on: April 04, 2023, 01:55:45 PM »
If an accountant makes an error, or errors, when doing someones' taxes, THE ACCOUNTANT,  OR PERSON ACTUALLY DOING THE TAXES "IS NOT LIABLE", liability falls on the person whose taxes are being reported. Which is why tax accountants always say that if you are audited the accountant, or accounting company will go with you to your IRS hearing.

https://www.findlaw.com/legalblogs/small-business/is-your-accountant-liable-if-your-audited/

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If I am mistaken about the accountant(s) being liable, then I stand corrected.

I am not planning to go look to see. I am not really all that concerned about it, except that I may have been mistaken about who is liable.

You want to go get a similar link, I will go look at it. ;)




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Re: Trump indicted..
« Reply #44 on: April 04, 2023, 02:00:32 PM »
In regard to the circus in NYC ...

Seems that I mentioned in my last comment before Dees here today in this topic, that there is a possibility for a precedent to be set by this political BS case against DJT.

Someone else is also aware of the possibilities...

See for yourselves:

https://nypost.com/2023/04/03/alvin-braggs-indictment-of-donald-trump-might-open-a-pandoras-box-for-democrats/

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Re: Trump indicted..
« Reply #45 on: April 04, 2023, 02:10:55 PM »
If an accountant makes an error, or errors, when doing someones' taxes, THE ACCOUNTANT,  OR PERSON ACTUALLY DOING THE TAXES "IS NOT LIABLE", liability falls on the person whose taxes are being reported. Which is why tax accountants always say that if you are audited the accountant, or accounting company will go with you to your IRS hearing.

https://www.findlaw.com/legalblogs/small-business/is-your-accountant-liable-if-youre-audited/

#2 comment in reply.

I was not going to go look, but I sure thought that there was some liability by a tax accountant for mistakes on someone else tax return that the accountant prepared for that party, & it appears that I was right in that context.

I am not going to go and look for more than this one, this should just be a point that there may be some cases that a tax accountant is liable, not for the Taxable amount, but by having to account for the mistake & can be assessed in penalty by authorities, be it the IRS, a State tax division/etc., or liability in civil court.

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If you hired a tax preparer to complete your return, you have an expectation that the work will be done properly. But sometimes the preparer, either intentionally or unintentionally, may make a mistake on your tax return that the IRS catches, potentially resulting in an audit and ordinarily followed by an assessment of additional tax penalties and interest.

After a change in tax laws over a decade ago, anyone who prepares a tax return can be held liable for mistakes made in preparing a return for someone else.

A tax preparer who made mistakes in your return could be subject to an IRS monetary penalty. The IRS does take into account the preparer’s testimony regarding the cause of the mistake, and errors deemed reckless carry the biggest penalties. It’s possible that if the preparer was acting in good faith and made an “honest” mistake, financial penalties could be waived.

The preparer also may receive a non-financial penalty or sanction, such as being unable to prepare any returns for a period of time.
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Source: https://klasing-associates.com/tax-preparers-may-liable-much/

Note - there is more info to the subject above, at the above SOURCE link. Those who care to know, can Do their Own research.
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Regardless, I do not think that that is the case in this NYC Indictment of DJT. I think it is , once again, not so much DJTs liability in regard to taxes, but a POSSIBLE mistake was made by an accountant, or accountants, and thus that mistake made by someone else is the reason for NO case against DJT.
( Other than perhaps a tax liability for the Feds, or State Tax authorities, but since THEY did not go after him after THEIR investigations, it paints this political "lawfare" hit on DJT as BS "trumped up charges",.< No pun intended.

I am not any sort of a legal beagle, but I do have the ability to go off of personal experience & I am not a bad investigator if the mood suits me.

No matter to me, though.

This is DJTs deal & I think he is gonna. "come out smelling like a rose", in the end.

Cya.bye again.

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Re: Trump indicted..
« Reply #46 on: April 04, 2023, 02:22:20 PM »
The link I posted works fine for me.
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Re: Trump indicted..
« Reply #47 on: April 04, 2023, 02:28:13 PM »
I will try again then.

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Re: Trump indicted..
« Reply #48 on: April 04, 2023, 02:40:23 PM »
Trump is on Fox right now speaking of the situation. 7:40 P.M.

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« Reply #49 on: April 04, 2023, 02:41:54 PM »
Once again, the 404 error.

I do not know why it is not working for me but works for you.

Maybe if I feel like it later I will go look some more for info about this, but the link I shared along with the quoted material from that source link , as well as further info there IS available & it was not the only one I saw when using a search engine, so there seems to be some sort of discrepancy. Either in what context we are talking about, or something along those lines.

I will remain thinking that a tax preparer for someone else is still liable for their accounting if mistakes are made. While the person signing off on a tax return is also liable in regard to TAXES, I do not think they are liable for Criminal proceedings for that mistake made by the tax preparer, if the one signing off on the tax forms did so accepting the forms BASED on the ACCOUNTANTS workmanship not being aware that their accounting workmanship was flawed.

An interesting possible analogy to this would be that if someone decided to build a deck on the back of their home 16 ft. off the ground & then contractually hired a sub contractor to build the deck with the home owner being the one to pull and pay for a building permit to build the deck according to building codes, then has the deck built, pays the contractor for building it once the building inspector signs off on the permit & work done.
Then a couple months later at a party to celebrate the new deck the deck falls off the house and injures some party goers.

Who gets prosecuted if there is any CRIMINAL CHARGES that are forthcoming from such a situation happening?

Homeowner? Sub Contractor? Building Inspector? County who accepted the Inspection, and for hiring the building inspector?

The above is a rhetorical set of questions. It is just a hypothetical scenario, but the principle remains...

If Trump had some mistakes made on his beyond statue of limitations for tax liability AND for criminal charges regarding his taxes, other authorities including State & Federal declined to pursue the matter further AFTER their own separate investigations, and then some dumbass DA from Manhatten decides to pull up a Grand Jury to go after DJT on the same things, but with "criminal charges"?

Ahh,,c'mon, it is just a crap show clown circus.

Not really all that interested in the crap any more... I have seen enough circuses & "dog & pony shows" in my life , and this is just a BS one and really isn't worth much more discussion from my point of view, as it is ridiculous doins anyway.

I will wait about here a bit to see if ya reply, or have replied.

Other than that, I got other things to do now.

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Re: Trump indicted..
« Reply #50 on: April 04, 2023, 02:44:39 PM »
Try a different browser, that often fixes that problem for me.

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« Reply #51 on: April 04, 2023, 02:51:19 PM »
Try a different browser, that often fixes that problem for me.

My Login in timed out, but I returned to reply to you, Bob.
:)

I might try changing browsers later, but as I tried to say in my last comment/post, I really have no desire to waste much more time on the subject.

I think this whole deal is a political hack hit job & IMO is likely to come out with those who are pursuing it looking more the fool than DJT might, & not much detrimental effect to DJT, et al..



YMMV, of course, in your own thinking about this whole deal though.
;)

You certainly have my Thanks~!, for the suggestion to change browsers & your efforts to help.
:)

ETA: I have some othr things to do now, so am logging off on my own now. I will check back later though. Just to see what new has come up. ;)
Bye

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Re: Trump indicted..
« Reply #52 on: April 04, 2023, 04:10:14 PM »
Hey guys, there's nothing to gain from arguing about the merits, or legalities of this thing--it's all bogus and just as crazy as the Dumbycratic Party itself.  They cheat, steal, lie and generally are without morals, or any integrity.
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Re: Trump indicted..
« Reply #53 on: April 05, 2023, 02:03:18 AM »
This is just the Black version of Collusion bologna
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Re: Trump indicted..
« Reply #54 on: April 05, 2023, 02:06:35 AM »
Hey guys, there's nothing to gain from arguing about the merits, or legalities of this thing--it's all bogus and just as crazy as the Dumbycratic Party itself.  They cheat, steal, lie and generally are without morals, or any integrity.

Anything moral, or involving "integrity" will have to be FORCE FED to a Democrat.
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