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Lloyd, Is there any source that could give you new information, or information that conflicts with your current view, that you would deem "legit"?Back when we used to teach logic and rhetoric in grammar school, your perpetual dismissal of sources as not being "legit" would be considered a logical fallacy, called an "ad hominem" or "against the man." If you cannot refute the content, you have to attack the authority, accuracy or character of the source. You may not realize you're doing it, but you've done it alot in this thread. It comes across as arrogant, as if you are the sole authority of what a legitimate source of information is.I hope it doesn't pop into your head to then ask me what I consider a legitimate source to be, because that is just a transference of the ad hominem attack from sources to the speaker. And only doubles down that you'd be more interested in arguing with people than getting to the truth. Like I said, I hope that's not the case.
Quote from: ironglow on April 13, 2023, 02:39:23 AM He left...saying he was harassed to that point..Just like this one. He didn't tell you that. You made it up not knowing he'd been canned. Quote from: ironglow on April 16, 2023, 07:01:09 AM I have no connection with whatever set him awry, so I'll set that aside here. I have been conversing with TM here, since roughly 2002. Even though he once held some left leaning views, that does not seem to be so much the case in recent years. He did at one time, seem to have little time for the Jews, while myself being Christian, I definitely share an affinity with them.. ..But that didn't mean we had to be uncivil with one another. Even though we often disagreed in the past, TM was always willing to engage me intellectually...with neither of us resorting to name-calling or using pejorative accusations. Ever the gentleman.. no ad hominem attacks, and I will respect anybody who is willing to dialog intellectually, rather than through disparaging remarks.Yeah, you and him were so close, especially with y'alls' total agreements concerning Russia invadin Ukraine. Never once were either one of you uncivil to each other.
He left...saying he was harassed to that point..
I have no connection with whatever set him awry, so I'll set that aside here. I have been conversing with TM here, since roughly 2002. Even though he once held some left leaning views, that does not seem to be so much the case in recent years. He did at one time, seem to have little time for the Jews, while myself being Christian, I definitely share an affinity with them.. ..But that didn't mean we had to be uncivil with one another. Even though we often disagreed in the past, TM was always willing to engage me intellectually...with neither of us resorting to name-calling or using pejorative accusations. Ever the gentleman.. no ad hominem attacks, and I will respect anybody who is willing to dialog intellectually, rather than through disparaging remarks.
Quote from: Dee on April 16, 2023, 08:24:44 AMQuote from: ironglow on April 13, 2023, 02:39:23 AM He left...saying he was harassed to that point..Just like this one. He didn't tell you that. You made it up not knowing he'd been canned. Quote from: ironglow on April 16, 2023, 07:01:09 AM I have no connection with whatever set him awry, so I'll set that aside here. I have been conversing with TM here, since roughly 2002. Even though he once held some left leaning views, that does not seem to be so much the case in recent years. He did at one time, seem to have little time for the Jews, while myself being Christian, I definitely share an affinity with them.. ..But that didn't mean we had to be uncivil with one another. Even though we often disagreed in the past, TM was always willing to engage me intellectually...with neither of us resorting to name-calling or using pejorative accusations. Ever the gentleman.. no ad hominem attacks, and I will respect anybody who is willing to dialog intellectually, rather than through disparaging remarks.Yeah, you and him were so close, especially with y'alls' total agreements concerning Russia invadin Ukraine. Never once were either one of you uncivil to each other. Yeah, you and your new found buddy loyd too... Of course that only pertains to your digressions.
Now everyone who does not agree with little d is a jackass. How common.
