Newsmax! Catholic Charities Profiteering On Illegal Border Jumpers!

[Dee]

Newsmax & Sebastian Gorka did a piece on it Sunday night. Catholic Charities and others are "profiteering" smuggling illegals all over the United States with funding from the Biden Regime.

I brought this up here months ago, but it has obviously turned into big money for Catholic Charities. Of its 4.7 billion dollars in smuggling revenue, 1.4 billion dollars of its illegal smuggling revenue came from the Biden Regime.
So, Catholic Charities has linked up with the Mexican cartels, and the Biden cartel in human trafficking for profit.

https://www.heritage.org/immigration/commentary/biden-shovels-millions-nonprofits-aid-his-open-border-schemes-congress-must

[Lloyd Smale]

every church is doing it. even the texas baptist but like always all you here is catholic catholic catholic
https://www.baptistpress.com/resource-library/news/southern-baptists-respond-to-border-crisis/ 
every Christian church unfortunately are helping these immigrants. thing bis the best news is the catholics are doing it and the second most talked about are the Texas baptist. this is part of the liberal agenda. there trying to make christians look bad just like they try to demonize republican. i know i go to a catholic church and nobody's been asked for contributions. so if tis "catholic charity's" organization is being supported its getting its money somewhere else. even if they are giving food and shelter. those illegals are already here and not turning back. so if the churches werent feeding them and giving them a place to eat they would be in your neighborhood steeling your food with violence or crashed in your back yard. so id think you would be grateful. no church is to blame for this mess. its all on biden. when you buy into there spin doctor bought and paid for news stories that try to deflect that blame your letting biden set the hook and your caught and helping his cause. lets keep the blame squarely where it belongs on liberal atheist spporters of this imigration mess, abortion, and this f----- up country they have made. Not conservative christians. this kind of crap is the REAL WAY THEY STEAL ELECTIONS by turning us against each other

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[GTS225]

So much for "seperation of church and state".
Seems that maybe the tax exempt status of the church should be given a real hard look.

Roger

[Dee]

every church is doing it. even the texas baptist but like always all you here is catholic catholic catholic
https://www.baptistpress.com/resource-library/news/southern-baptists-respond-to-border-crisis/ 
every Christian church unfortunately are helping these immigrants. thing bis the best news is the catholics are doing it and the second most talked about are the Texas baptist. this is part of the liberal agenda. there trying to make christians look bad just like they try to demonize republican. i know i go to a catholic church and nobody's been asked for contributions. so if tis "catholic charity's" organization is being supported its getting its money somewhere else. even if they are giving food and shelter. those illegals are already here and not turning back. so if the churches werent feeding them and giving them a place to eat they would be in your neighborhood steeling your food with violence or crashed in your back yard. so id think you would be grateful. no church is to blame for this mess. its all on biden. when you buy into there spin doctor bought and paid for news stories that try to deflect that blame your letting biden set the hook and your caught and helping his cause. lets keep the blame squarely where it belongs on liberal atheist spporters of this imigration mess, abortion, and this f----- up country they have made. Not conservative christians. this kind of crap is the REAL WAY THEY STEAL ELECTIONS by turning us against each other

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Lloyd the piece on Catholic Charities profiteering and transporting illegals and working with the Biden Regime was on NEWSMAX last night. They have pocketed 1.4 billion dollars in profit from the Biden Regime for doing it.

You also need to read your own link. Its about baptist churches feeding illegals not hauling them farther north and dropping them off.

https://baptistnews.com/article/as-unaccompanied-children-surge-across-the-border-again-baptist-ministries-retool/

[Lloyd Smale]

im not trying to defend the catholic church because i dont have to. they dont profit from that organization and arent cotrloled by the catholic church. its  by the way its a rare charity because they spend 89 percent of what they take in for actual help for people in need .https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Charities_USA   i just dont like the way the news wants to pit Christian against Christian. conservative against conservative while the artiest  baby killers sit back and laugh and get stronger. i wont play that game. its just what the fake catholics like biden and pelosi love to see

[Dee]

im not trying to defend the catholic church because i dont have to. they dont profit from that organization and arent cotrloled by the catholic church. its  by the way its a rare charity because they spend 89 percent of what they take in for actual help for people in need .https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Charities_USA   i just dont like the way the news wants to pit Christian against Christian. conservative against conservative while the artiest  baby killers sit back and laugh and get stronger. i wont play that game. its just what the fake catholics like biden and pelosi love to see

Is the Catholic Charities organization ran by the Catholic church? I don't know. And is the news piece along with countless other accounts of their activities saying All Catholics? I don't believe it is.

And how is the truth pitting Christian against Christian, and conservative against conservative, and 1.4 billion dollars is no small figure.

[Drilling Man]

  I see on the local news here, pretty much all of the different churches are getting illegals here, many from Iraq, Ukraine ect., not just from the south.

  They seem quite proud of themselves for doing so, showing them on TV, and telling how they are paying for renting houses and everything else for them.

  DM

[Lloyd Smale]

no they are not controlled by the church. more like st Vincent DePaul for lack of a better example its kind of like saying all baptist are the same church. but the haters will twist anything to help there agenda and that is keeping liberals in power

im not trying to defend the catholic church because i dont have to. they dont profit from that organization and arent cotrloled by the catholic church. its  by the way its a rare charity because they spend 89 percent of what they take in for actual help for people in need .https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Charities_USA   i just dont like the way the news wants to pit Christian against Christian. conservative against conservative while the artiest  baby killers sit back and laugh and get stronger. i wont play that game. its just what the fake catholics like biden and pelosi love to see

Is the Catholic Charities organization ran by the Catholic church? I don't know. And is the news piece along with countless other accounts of their activities saying All Catholics? I don't believe it is.

And how is the truth pitting Christian against Christian, and conservative against conservative, and 1.4 billion dollars is no small figure.

[Lloyd Smale]

ya i see the same thing but the fact is to really follow the bible there doing what Jesus taught. its kind of why i dont care for a preacher that wont set it down and replace it with a bit of common sense. helping them could very well encouraged another to come and it might be a young girl thats raped or sold. or maybe consider we already had AMERICANS that were homeless that they could have put some effort into. mental damaged men and women that were destroyed fighting for this country now put in second place or most likely no place. i sometimes like god in the old testament better. he wasnt above mopping up a bunch of people taking his land or messing with his people.   

  I see on the local news here, pretty much all of the different churches are getting illegals here, many from Iraq, Ukraine ect., not just from the south.

  They seem quite proud of themselves for doing so, showing them on TV, and telling how they are paying for renting houses and everything else for them.

  DM

[Dee]

  I see on the local news here, pretty much all of the different churches are getting illegals here, many from Iraq, Ukraine ect., not just from the south.

  They seem quite proud of themselves for doing so, showing them on TV, and telling how they are paying for renting houses and everything else for them.

  DM

Got a Link? All I've seen is churches feeding them.

[Drilling Man]

  I see on the local news here, pretty much all of the different churches are getting illegals here, many from Iraq, Ukraine ect., not just from the south.

  They seem quite proud of themselves for doing so, showing them on TV, and telling how they are paying for renting houses and everything else for them.

  DM

Got a Link? All I've seen is churches feeding them.

  My TV doesn't give out links, IF you want, I can record it next time and you can stop by and watch it.  lol

  DM

[Dee]

  I see on the local news here, pretty much all of the different churches are getting illegals here, many from Iraq, Ukraine ect., not just from the south.

  They seem quite proud of themselves for doing so, showing them on TV, and telling how they are paying for renting houses and everything else for them.

  DM

Got a Link? All I've seen is churches feeding them.

  My TV doesn't give out links, IF you want, I can record it next time and you can stop by and watch it.  lol

  DM

I understand. There aren't any.

[Drilling Man]

  I see on the local news here, pretty much all of the different churches are getting illegals here, many from Iraq, Ukraine ect., not just from the south.

  They seem quite proud of themselves for doing so, showing them on TV, and telling how they are paying for renting houses and everything else for them.

  DM

Got a Link? All I've seen is churches feeding them.

  My TV doesn't give out links, IF you want, I can record it next time and you can stop by and watch it.  lol

  DM

I understand. There aren't any.

  No idea, how would there be links for something that I see on TV?

  IF you think I'm a lier, so be it...

  DM

[Dee]

  I see on the local news here, pretty much all of the different churches are getting illegals here, many from Iraq, Ukraine ect., not just from the south.

  They seem quite proud of themselves for doing so, showing them on TV, and telling how they are paying for renting houses and everything else for them.

  DM

Got a Link? All I've seen is churches feeding them.

  My TV doesn't give out links, IF you want, I can record it next time and you can stop by and watch it.  lol

  DM

I understand. There aren't any.

  No idea, how would there be links for something that I see on TV?

  IF you think I'm a lier, so be it...

  DM

TV stations have links. Just like Newsmax, Fox ECT. I'm all for looking at sources, and finding out whether facts are actually facts. I have no problem telling where I get my information.

If vagueness is your cup of tea, so be it. I'll just move on to solid information where it can be found. "Trust but verify" 

[Lloyd Smale]

dee the link i posted is about the southern baptist and texas baptists helping. now i said that knowing that i cant make a blanket statement that the "baptist" church is supporting it. its individual catholics and baptist that are basicaly USING the name of the church. i know i read somewhere a while back that the methodist church is there too and even has the blessing of the church but i have no link to back that up. The truth be told about all of this is its liberals and even liberal government officials that are the real offenders. there just hiding behind names. i think if this crisis ever gets under control and saner mind get back this country that heads will roll. id bet we find out a lot of people in high places did may illegal things or at least turned a blind eye that violated there oath of office and many heads will roll. this will make Watergate look like a trial for j walking.

i would doubt if it comes to light that the biden administration even incentivized the cartels to get more in as quick as they can before the next election. 100s of 1000s will get there citizenship and be future voters. they are probably letting biden run because they know a win isnt going to be easy for any democrat and there main focus is the long term. they got them in and they will have probably millions of new voters by 2028 and no trump to run against. i honestly think this is there gamebook.

[Dee]

Lloyd I quit the Southern Baptist Convention years ago and won't go to a southern Baptist church.

I'm Independent Baptist, but if a Baptist church organization, independent, southern, or whatever, was helping the government, and the cartels, I'd have posted it.

This thing with the Catholic charities didn't require any digging it was on Newsmax and Sebastian Gorka was the host. We have Texans down here trying to make a buck smuggling carloads of illegals. The thing is: A spade is still a shovel, regardless of who's diggin with it.

[Lloyd Smale]

just pisses me off when they take aim at one bunch just because they dont like that bunch when theres hundreds of bunches doing worse that nobody lifts a finger to stop. example being the cartels smuggling in illegals selling them into slavery and smuggling in tons of drugs. but that doesnt fit the agenda of the people in charge and its old news nobody pays attention to. you off all people knows how much this crap matters to anyone 500 miles away. but OH BOY find a way to tear down the catholic church and even the conservatives will play. same for any CHRISTAIN church or organization but they just hate the catholics more. truth is they dont want to destroy just the catholic church, they want to destroy ALL Christianity and know that that cant happen unless they get the catholics first because there the big dog of the block!  Truth be told bs like this is a poorly vailed attack on all christian and there so good they can turn christian against christian. The power christians have in this country and the world is weakening at a drastic rate. when we  allow them to get us to fight and hate  between religons that truth be told are different in only tiny thing. THEY WIN AND WE LOOSE. best oof just not plying there game in the first place

[Dee]

Well Lloyd, Sebastian gorka is a devout catholic.

[Lloyd Smale]

Well Lloyd, Sebastian gorka is a devout catholic.

so he claims. but so do pelosi and biden. trump claims to be christian too. must be a diiferent definiton then was taught to me. heck i even saw obama show up at a christian church. i think its about impossible to become powerful in politics today and still call yourself a chistian. most left many bodys and broken people behind. it gets to the point where they use religion as a tool to get more popularity and power. want proof it doesnt work look at jimmy carter. he was a good christian that tried to take christian values to the white house. how did that work out for him.

that preacher in IG's post said it right. to be a REAL catholic you have to believe in 4 things God, Jesus Christ, the bible and the teachings of the church. NO woke allowed. no turning a blind eye to homosexuality, abortion, greed or a lust for power. you are either a catholic and agree with the teachings of the church or you come to mass as a spectator. you always have the option to find a church that is more flexible or turns a blind eye to sin.I heard the methodists are looking for members.

 one thing about the catholic church is you can go anywhere in the world (im talking roman catholic) and if you understand the language your going to get the same teaching. its not left to a bunch of old ladys at bible study to decipher the real meaning of the scriptures and tell the pastor to teach it or the will have them fired. if thats what you want then be happy. dont waste your time with the catholic church.  the scary thing is i see it teetering like most churches toward excepting sin.

i wonder what will be left of christianiy 50 years from now. i know for SURE satan WINS if we all dont put aside insignificant difference and become ally's. thats a cold hard fact. what we all first have to do is be christians. which church you pray in has little to do with that and you can do it in your recliner at home. but as to the catholics not being on our side. just go to a teachers union meating, pro abortion rally, gay pride rally or any bunch of liberals or atheists and asked them which church they would first want to destroy. 

[Dee]

This thread WAS AND IS about an organization (that happens to start with the name CATHOLIC) working with the Biden Regime to distribute illegal border jumpers throughout the NOT United States. For political reasons, and profit.

It didn't in the beginning, and still doesn't, have anything to do with attacking anybody's church, or dividing christians, or dividing conservatives. Its about a corrupt government and an organization doing the same thing its punishing Texas, Florida, and Arizona for. MSNBC, ABC, CBS, CNN, AND FOX NEWS, refuse to air this FACT, because of "fear of backlash" from Catholics. They want to fit in, and be woke.

IF YOU DON'T MENTION IT, IT MEANS ITS NOT HAPPENING.

[Lloyd Smale]

sorry im not buying it. since when are MSNBC, ABC, CBS and CNN afraid to post anti catholic bs. in fact they love nothing much better other then trump to bash anything catholic. we will have to agree to disagree on this one

[Dee]

Well, the truth is still the truth, so what tha hell.

[ironglow]

One thing sure..if Christians bicker and accuse each other, that opens the gate  for doubters to make such misleading statements as shown below,
 calling  for the usurpation of our Constitution.

    "So much for "seperation of church and state". Seems that maybe the tax exempt status of the church should be given a real hard look."

   We don't need any more misquotes from nay-sayers than we already have.  Note: Of course, there is no "separation of church and state", mentioned in the Constitution..

[Bob Riebe]

Roman Catholic church when it ruled in Europe SHOWS the absolute necessity of separation of church and state.
One SHOULD rule by Christian Dogma, but should not have absolute authority to do so.
Roman proved the asinine reality of such a thing. (and many non-RC principalities in Europe at the time)

[Lloyd Smale]

sorry bob but im more concerned with today then i am 1500 years ago

Roman Catholic church when it ruled in Europe SHOWS the absolute necessity of separation of church and state.
One SHOULD rule by Christian Dogma, but should not have absolute authority to do so.
Roman proved the asinine reality of such a thing. (and many non-RC principalities in Europe at the time)

[ironglow]

  The subject of "separation" was not mentioned in the Constitution.  In fact the only place the subject is breached, is in the Bill of Rights, where it say that congress shallmake no law regarding the establishment of a religion. Which for all practical purposes, prevents what was done in Europe.

    Amendment #1

     "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

   The left often chirps about " the separation clause" in the Constitution, of which no such thing exists..  They have dredged that up out of a letter Thos Jefferson wrote to the Danbury (CT) Baptists...
   He meant..and the left doesn't mention this..to reassure them that the congress was not about to "establish" any religion..
 
    It seems the Baptists of Dansbury, CT..were a bit uneasy, concerning the number of Episcopalians  being elected to congress..which is why they wrote to Thos Jefferson in the first place.

   Keep in mind, the Bill of Rights, enumerate the rights reserved for the people, and not for the government.  Actually, the Bill of Rights was
   established to keep government from trying to usurp the rights of the people.

  ..Which is why Obama once called the Bill of Rights.."a NEGATIVE Bill of Rights, which would likely be the view of a "government over the people", type of person.

[Dee]

And here we go, Lloyd takes exception to Newsmax doing a piece on the Catholic Charities, Bob makes one of his legendary misinterpretations of the constitution, and a thread about human trafficking gets turned into alleged catholic bashing,/Christian division, and a separation of church and state lecture.

[Bob Riebe]

There is ZERO difference; same crap, different pile.

[Bob Riebe]

And here we go, Lloyd takes exception to Newsmax doing a piece on the Catholic Charities, Bob makes one of his legendary misinterpretations of the constitution, and a thread about human trafficking gets turned into alleged catholic bashing,/Christian division, and a separation of church and state lecture.

I said NOTHING about the constitution. 

[Dee]

And here we go, Lloyd takes exception to Newsmax doing a piece on the Catholic Charities, Bob makes one of his legendary misinterpretations of the constitution, and a thread about human trafficking gets turned into alleged catholic bashing,/Christian division, and a separation of church and state lecture.

I said NOTHING about the constitution. 

No, you made a claim about separation of church and state. And got it backwards.