Osama Obama major crime figure

[magooch]

Dan Bongeno is claiming that Obama is right square behind just about all the rot and corruption oozing out of the Biden presidency.  There are many other players, but Obama was the one who put it all in motion.  Apparently there is a whistle blower who is ready to spill the beans and the House now will attempt to put this informant under oath.  No surprise if this person goes missing.

[DDZ]

Obama would be my guess as the one running the country. The right arm of the democratic party called the media never talked about Obamas past. His association with radical Bill Ayers, Jeremiah Wright, and his communist  tutor Frank Marshall Davis who was a card carrying member of the communist party USA. He was pro Red China, and pro Soviet. He saw his father last when he was 10 years old, and then was basically associated with a bunch of communist American haters. Other things of his past were kept quiet, like his homosexuality, and the number of bath houses he visited in Chicago. Even the speculation he married a tranny named Michael.  And the stupid people of this country elected him twice. then again maybe he was planted also. 

[Dee]

Dan Bongeno is claiming that Obama is right square behind just about all the rot and corruption oozing out of the Biden presidency.  There are many other players, but Obama was the one who put it all in motion.  Apparently there is a whistle blower who is ready to spill the beans and the House now will attempt to put this informant under oath.  No surprise if this person goes missing.

No surprise to me if nuthin comes of it.

[Graybeard]

Obama was no more "in charge" when he was sitting in the white house than Joe is now. He also isn't in charge now. Both took/are taking orders from the same folks. Both of them are just useful tools for the folks REALLY in charge.

[Dee]

That's possibly true as neither has ever had an actual job. Neither Obama or Joe really know how to do anything.

[ulav8r]

That's possibly true as neither has ever had an actual job. Neither Obama or Joe really know how to do anything.

Not true, Joe knows how to sell favors to our enemies or to extort money from them.

[Dee]

That's possibly true as neither has ever had an actual job. Neither Obama or Joe really know how to do anything.

Not true, Joe knows how to sell favors to our enemies or to extort money from them.

So now crime, an treason is a job?

[ulav8r]

It is not a job, though he uses it instead of doing a job.

[Dee]

Joe is a criminal who works with a bunch of other criminals. They call themselves "congressmen". They're mostly lawyers who have miraculously made themselves wealthy on about $170,000.00 a year.

Though numerically impossible to do, they've somehow managed.

[ironglow]

Obama was no more "in charge" when he was sitting in the white house than Joe is now. He also isn't in charge now. Both took/are taking orders from the same folks. Both of them are just useful tools for the folks REALLY in charge.

   So Bill, what is your best guess as to who by name(s) is truly in charge?

  While I see the WEF/Davos elites as driving the ship, they put Obama at the helm.  Obama succeeded Bush..and did anyone notice how the old
   raging flames of Racism, white supremacy, mob action, hatred and history revision, were again fired up?

   I observed from the 1950s, up through 2008, how the old injustices were gradually addressed, and things were relatively accusation of such
     prejudices had dwindled to almost nothing, by 2008.

   ..But like all Communist movements, they need dissension and "class struggle' to effect their plans, and unfortunately, there are enough
      uninformed people to build just such a revolutionary force..

[Graybeard]

I don't know the answer to your question with the specificity you wish me to give you.

It isn't as if one person is driving the train. Nope it's a LOT of folks. They all have a few characteristics in common.

1. They are globalist
2. They are not just rich but super rich.
3. They are satanist or at least have no belief in GOD/Jesus
4. They have a common goal of reducing the world population down to around the 500 million mark. They don't care how they get it there either.

I don't believe you can properly attach any one single name to these folks either a given name or a ground name. Some are Jews, in fact a LOT of them are Jews. Some are Muzlims, some likely are communists but communists or communism isn't running the show. As popular as the belief seems to be I don't think Nazi's are all that much involved.

These folks are first and foremost globalist and have no loyalty to any country. They want a one world government run by them, prolly meaning by corporations as in most science fiction movies.

If you need some specific names, just guessing here of course, I'd put Bill and Melinda Gates, George Soros and many others in the group. I don't think any one person speaks for or leads them.

[Dee]

I don't think it's any one person, but more of a "movement", nearing religion status. The sad truth is the general population will go along with the plan as they will be whittled away one small group at a time.

[DDZ]

I don't know the answer to your question with the specificity you wish me to give you.

It isn't as if one person is driving the train. Nope it's a LOT of folks. They all have a few characteristics in common.

1. They are globalist
2. They are not just rich but super rich.
3. They are satanist or at least have no belief in GOD/Jesus
4. They have a common goal of reducing the world population down to around the 500 million mark. They don't care how they get it there either.

I don't believe you can properly attach any one single name to these folks either a given name or a ground name. Some are Jews, in fact a LOT of them are Jews. Some are Muzlims, some likely are communists but communists or communism isn't running the show. As popular as the belief seems to be I don't think Nazi's are all that much involved.

These folks are first and foremost globalist and have no loyalty to any country. They want a one world government run by them, prolly meaning by corporations as in most science fiction movies.

If you need some specific names, just guessing here of course, I'd put Bill and Melinda Gates, George Soros and many others in the group. I don't think any one person speaks for or leads them.

I believe all that to be true. the only thing that will put an end to it is Christ returning. 

[darkgael]

These folks are first and foremost globalist and have no loyalty to any country. They want a one world government run by them, prolly meaning by corporations as in most science fiction movies.

First and foremost globalist…..what does that actually mean? No loyalty? One world government?
That is wildly anarchic. For such a movement to be effective, it would have to have some organization otherwise it is unformed speculation. All that has been mentioned is the same rehash of the usual suspects…..rumor and innuendo. It is a truth that if an idea is repeated often enough, it becomes an accepted alternative to the actual truth. Dangerous. These  continuing references to shadowy control figures may be fun but are a waste of time. If we cannot give a name to the guilty then they could  be anyone. If they can be anyone, then who?

[darkgael]

Apparently there is a whistle blower who is ready to spill the beans and the House now will attempt to put this informant under oath.  No surprise if this person goes missing

A classic setup. An accusation without attribution. An accuser with no name ready to spill the beans. But he might disappear. Then the accusation will remain and become quasi believable. Convenient.

[darkgael]

Obama would be my guess as the one running the country. The right arm of the democratic party called the media never talked about Obamas past. His association with radical Bill Ayers, Jeremiah Wright, and his communist  tutor Frank Marshall Davis who was a card carrying member of the communist party USA. He was pro Red China, and pro Soviet. He saw his father last when he was 10 years old, and then was basically associated with a bunch of communist American haters. Other things of his past were kept quiet, like his homosexuality, and the number of bath houses he visited in Chicago. Even the speculation he married a tranny named Michael.  And the stupid people of this country elected him twice. then again maybe he was planted also.

So…..lots of accusation in there. Lots of speculation . Where did you get all of these “facts”? Homosexuality, Bath houses, tranny marriage? Where is the source?
Obama running things? What is the source of his power? No one runs anything in politics without power.

[ironglow]

I don't know the answer to your question with the specificity you wish me to give you.

It isn't as if one person is driving the train. Nope it's a LOT of folks. They all have a few characteristics in common.

1. They are globalist
2. They are not just rich but super rich.
3. They are satanist or at least have no belief in GOD/Jesus
4. They have a common goal of reducing the world population down to around the 500 million mark. They don't care how they get it there either.

I don't believe you can properly attach any one single name to these folks either a given name or a ground name. Some are Jews, in fact a LOT of them are Jews. Some are Muzlims, some likely are communists but communists or communism isn't running the show. As popular as the belief seems to be I don't think Nazi's are all that much involved.

These folks are first and foremost globalist and have no loyalty to any country. They want a one world government run by them, prolly meaning by corporations as in most science fiction movies.

If you need some specific names, just guessing here of course, I'd put Bill and Melinda Gates, George Soros and many others in the group. I don't think any one person speaks for or leads them.

   Yes..I believe it is all of that, and more too..as Dee and DDZ pointed out.

[ironglow]

These folks are first and foremost globalist and have no loyalty to any country. They want a one world government run by them, prolly meaning by corporations as in most science fiction movies.

First and foremost globalist…..what does that actually mean? No loyalty? One world government?
That is wildly anarchic. For such a movement to be effective, it would have to have some organization otherwise it is unformed speculation. All that has been mentioned is the same rehash of the usual suspects…..rumor and innuendo. It is a truth that if an idea is repeated often enough, it becomes an accepted alternative to the actual truth. Dangerous. These  continuing references to shadowy control figures may be fun but are a waste of time. If we cannot give a name to the guilty then they could  be anyone. If they can be anyone, then who?

     Obviously, they are of a united purpose...they meet in Davos every year in an effort to assert their will, which of course..is not truly their will.

  Some groups do not need an "organization" to operate.  Some operate by way of a charismatic, forcefully deceiving leader.. Think Pancho Villa, David Koresh, Adolph Hitler, or Jim Jones.

  Adolph Hitler..who else could convince an entire nation that killing off millions of people, was an ethical thing to do?

  Jim Jones..convinced 900 people to commit suicide ! 

  Then there was emperor Hirohito...his troops willingly died in hopeless charges on the
  battlefield and in kamikaze attacks.   

   Then, how many willingly die for Allah?

  Irrational thinking, defying all logic, is the hallmark of such leader generated fanaticism.

   Now we have a whole section of Americans who are somehow convinced that mutilation of little children is a positive thing and who cannot tell a man from a woman, to say nothing of the liquidation of millions BEFORE they are born.

  SO you may ask...who is that leader? 

  Judging by their irrational actions they have a powerful  leader...who contrary to popular cartoons, doesn't  have a tail and horns...but he leads
    them just the same..

   ..And as the bulk of his followers are ready to "fall on the sword" for him...so they will get their reward of obliteration..., and their leader will laugh!

   No mystery here, the information readily available, if you just read the right book....

       

[Dee]

We live in a fallen world. Its been that way for about 6,000 years, and it ain't gonna get better, it is gonna get worse. Everyone is counting on one man (Trump) to somehow wade through the political mine field, win the presidential election, and save us all.

Not a realistic expectation.

While most folks are rabid 2nd Amendment advocates, most don't realize what it's really for,or about.

[ironglow]

We live in a fallen world. Its been that way for about 6,000 years, and it ain't gonna get better, it is gonna get worse. Everyone is counting on one man (Trump) to somehow wade through the political mine field, win the presidential election, and save us all.

Not a realistic expectation.

While most folks are rabid 2nd Amendment advocates, most don't realize what it's really for,or about.

   Perhaps a timely quote from the Bible....

      " For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places"  (Ephesians 6:12)

[Mule 11]

Obama would be my guess as the one running the country. The right arm of the democratic party called the media never talked about Obamas past. His association with radical Bill Ayers, Jeremiah Wright, and his communist  tutor Frank Marshall Davis who was a card carrying member of the communist party USA. He was pro Red China, and pro Soviet. He saw his father last when he was 10 years old, and then was basically associated with a bunch of communist American haters. Other things of his past were kept quiet, like his homosexuality, and the number of bath houses he visited in Chicago. Even the speculation he married a tranny named Michael.  And the stupid people of this country elected him twice. then again maybe he was planted also.

So…..lots of accusation in there. Lots of speculation . Where did you get all of these “facts”? Homosexuality, Bath houses, tranny marriage? Where is the source?
Obama running things? What is the source of his power? No one runs anything in politics without power.

I have read where Obama’s mentor thought how cute it was him running around in his tighty whities with the backside looking like a Japanese flag. Sorry that is from memory so no source. I personally believe it to be true, so my opinion.

Quote from another “ It’s easy for science to fool its own practitioners. If time and chance account for existence of everything we see, including our fellow human beings, than what are the moral issues in depopulating the planet to a sustainable level our self described “betters” have decided is sustainable?” I have read and believe most of what DDZ posted. Not sure about the Michael thing...

[DDZ]

Obama would be my guess as the one running the country. The right arm of the democratic party called the media never talked about Obamas past. His association with radical Bill Ayers, Jeremiah Wright, and his communist  tutor Frank Marshall Davis who was a card carrying member of the communist party USA. He was pro Red China, and pro Soviet. He saw his father last when he was 10 years old, and then was basically associated with a bunch of communist American haters. Other things of his past were kept quiet, like his homosexuality, and the number of bath houses he visited in Chicago. Even the speculation he married a tranny named Michael.  And the stupid people of this country elected him twice. then again maybe he was planted also.

So…..lots of accusation in there. Lots of speculation . Where did you get all of these “facts”? Homosexuality, Bath houses, tranny marriage? Where is the source?
Obama running things? What is the source of his power? No one runs anything in politics without power.

Well its not something you are going to hear from any main stream media outlet. Kind of have to go outside that. Don't you think?  Seems you don't want to believe any ill facts about Obama, because you voted for him twice. Correct? 

there are lots of news sources that talk about Obama and the bath houses in Chicago. Here is just one. https://politicalvelcraft.org/2010/10/31/special-report-obama-and-emanuel-traced-to-same-gay-bath-house-in-chicago/
and another:  https://rense.com/general95/onemanuel.html

and another:  https://www.wnd.com/2012/09/claim-obama-hid-gay-life-to-become-president/

Ever here this homo's statement? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUlzeAwKZxo  Obama is a homo, and a communist, and ignorant/stupid (take your pick) people in this country elected him twice.
Gee I wonder what would happen if a homo made this statement about Trump? I think you know.


Here is Joan Rivers stating the obvious. She was dead two weeks after saying this.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTzNZre1mC4   you will have to show me facts that Michelle isn't a guy, because I believe he/she is.  Its my opinion. Ever notice the big hands, and broad shoulders?  Ever see the photos of the bulge when he didn't have it taped down?  It was well know that Obama was a homo. Why would he marry a woman?

If you had a wife named Michelle. Do you think you would ever mistakenly call her Michael?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLiXFbht7s0

Again its my opinion, and someone would have to give me pretty good evidence that he isn't a homo, and Michelle isn't a guy. Probably won't find that evidence from watching CNN or one of the other communist news networks.

[darkgael]

Seems you don't want to believe any ill facts about Obama….

That is not it at all. I have no problem believing facts. What we have here too often is speculation masquerading as facts. We have rumor, innuendo and precious little else.
The standard criticism is to dismiss mainstream news…..ok, I get that. What is left to access? There was a series of links……how reliable are they? When criticisms fit an agenda, they become easier to accept as the truth…..even if they are not. Mainstream media is often accused of persecuting Mr.Trump, of lying about him. Maybe so. Do you really believe that they are the only ones lying, distorting the truth?

Again its my opinion,

You say that often…..your opinion. You present your opinion as if it is fact (a good debate tactic).
Opinion is not sacrosanct. Opinion is what other people call your facts when they think that you are wrong.

[DDZ]

Seems you don't want to believe any ill facts about Obama….

That is not it at all. I have no problem believing facts. What we have here too often is speculation masquerading as facts. We have rumor, innuendo and precious little else.
The standard criticism is to dismiss mainstream news…..ok, I get that. What is left to access? There was a series of links……how reliable are they? When criticisms fit an agenda, they become easier to accept as the truth…..even if they are not. Mainstream media is often accused of persecuting Mr.Trump, of lying about him. Maybe so. Do you really believe that they are the only ones lying, distorting the truth?

Lol,  so you question whether mainstream media persecutes trump? Maybe so?    Do you pay attention to anything that is going on, or do you just wear your blinders? That says alot about how you perceive things.   No the communists news networks are not the only ones distorting the truth, but they are the best at it. If you have a lick of common sense you can certainly form an opinion on whats true and whats lies.

[darkgael]

Ddz. 

you have a lick of common sense you can certainly form an opinion on whats true and whats lies

Really?  The old one true scotsman fallacy. If you dont see what I see, you have no common sense.
What is true and what is a lie? What criteria? If everybody is lying, as you noted, then of what value is that opinion?
Let me remove the hedge that I included about Mr. Trump and the Media - the “maybe so”……they surely have been at him since to get go. Is that more accurate?

[ironglow]

Ddz. 

you have a lick of common sense you can certainly form an opinion on whats true and whats lies

Really?  The old one true scotsman fallacy. If you dont see what I see, you have no common sense.
What is true and what is a lie? What criteria? If everybody is lying, as you noted, then of what value is that opinion?
Let me remove the hedge that I included about Mr. Trump and the Media - the “maybe so”……they surely have been at him since to get go. Is that more accurate?

   ..One very credible Scot spoke to that idea, and I think he made good sense  ; at least enough that I quote this phrase of his, which is found in his poem, "Ode to a Louse"..

      "O wad some Pow’r the giftie gie us
To see oursels as others see us!
It wad frae monie a blunder free us
An’ foolish notion:    

           (Robert Burns...  "Ode to a Louse")

   

[darkgael]

just saw this:

has ever had an actual job

Just what is an "actual job" ? A digression, I know.

[DDZ]

Let me remove the hedge that I included about Mr. Trump and the Media - the “maybe so”……they surely have been at him since to get go. Is that more accurate?

Well you can remove it, but it was instinct for you to type that. So its what you actually think, and now are trying to cover it up? So what do you think about the links I provided you on Obama's homosexuality? Or did you even look at any of them? What do you think about Joan Rivers comment?  What do you think about Larry Synclair's statement? Do you think he just decided to stand there in front of everyone, and make it up?   

[ironglow]

  There have been some fetching claims that  Obama was a homosexual.  I don't know if that is true or false, but if he were, he would fit riht in with the general Democrat valves and aims.

[DDZ]

  There have been some fetching claims that  Obama was a homosexual.  I don't know if that is true or false, but if he were, he would fit riht in with the general Democrat valves and aims.

Read some of the links I provided, and Larry Synclair's statement then decide if Obama is a homo or not.