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Offline Lloyd Smale

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fools and their money
« on: August 11, 2023, 12:51:07 AM »
https://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/man-forced-ditch-115k-ford-ev-truck-family-road-trip-chicago-biggest-scam-modern-times

how many idiots buy an electric without checking into basic things like this idiot found out
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« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2023, 02:07:55 AM »
It's been said here and most everywhere else.

The infrastructure for the majority to have EV's
isn't there. It'll take years and years and billions
and billions of consumer dollars for it to even
get close. The infrastructure for all the new
housing developments isn't even adequate right
now,  then trying to pile EV's on top of that  ?
 :D.       :D.        :D.       :D
Every coal and gas and petroleum fired
power plant would need to be reactivated,
and many new ones built, plus nuke plants,
and every inch of electrical service lines
and transformers and stations would have
to be replaced from coast to coast, and
residences and businesses would need
revamping from top to bottom.
Billions and billions and billions of dollars
that would be laid upon the backs of the
taxpayers and consumers

All the pollution created by the needed
increase required by manufacturing and
the disposal of the old useless junk
pretty much nullifies any advantages of
EV's
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Re: fools and their money
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2023, 06:28:28 AM »
 It’s the biggest liberal money scam our country has seen
Biden Family Crime is second
SO FAR
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Re: fools and their money
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2023, 10:36:24 AM »
I drive a Dodge truck. I don't really think, or care what anyone else drives.
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« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2023, 02:44:31 PM »
If the stupid Dummycratics stay in power, the price for electricity will go up just like the price for gas and diesel fuel. Transportation in general will come to a grinding halt and the country will turn to a massive homeless dump

It will require a modern-day revolutionary war which means massive slaughtering of liberals and commies to finally get things back to some kind of reasonable normalcy.

Hang on to your guns people, we're probably going to need them.
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« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2023, 09:27:49 PM »
ive got a dodge too and i care alot because 5 more years of this crap and you wont at best be able to afford fuel and thats if its not banned or its not illegal to drive it. everyone of those clueless yuppy idiots that buy one puts another nail in the coffin. biden doest give a rats ass what it will cost you or this country when you get your electric bill or electric rationing. if hes reelected he will not have to worry about popularity or reelection. if you think these ideas are stupid now it will escalate to insanity. its like saying you dont care how someone else votes. one thing people dont know or are blind to is the real agenda here. electric rates unlike anything else is directly controlled by the public service commission which is a fact way of saying by the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT not by free enterprise or supply and demand like every other industry in this country. they crave this control over us
I drive a Dodge truck. I don't really think, or care what anyone else drives.
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Re: fools and their money
« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2023, 12:21:36 AM »
ive got a dodge too and i care alot because 5 more years of this crap and you wont at best be able to afford fuel and thats if its not banned or its not illegal to drive it. everyone of those clueless yuppy idiots that buy one puts another nail in the coffin. biden doest give a rats ass what it will cost you or this country when you get your electric bill or electric rationing. if hes reelected he will not have to worry about popularity or reelection. if you think these ideas are stupid now it will escalate to insanity. its like saying you dont care how someone else votes. one thing people dont know or are blind to is the real agenda here. electric rates unlike anything else is directly controlled by the public service commission which is a fact way of saying by the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT not by free enterprise or supply and demand like every other industry in this country. they crave this control over us
I drive a Dodge truck. I don't really think, or care what anyone else drives.
I'm aware of all of that, I thought this thread was about people that bought electric trucks.  :-\
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« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2023, 12:57:41 AM »
it is and so is the fact that every one of those idiots hurt us and that sure concerns me and being from texas that is one of the biggest oil producing states i would think it would concern a Texan even more
ive got a dodge too and i care alot because 5 more years of this crap and you wont at best be able to afford fuel and thats if its not banned or its not illegal to drive it. everyone of those clueless yuppy idiots that buy one puts another nail in the coffin. biden doest give a rats ass what it will cost you or this country when you get your electric bill or electric rationing. if hes reelected he will not have to worry about popularity or reelection. if you think these ideas are stupid now it will escalate to insanity. its like saying you dont care how someone else votes. one thing people dont know or are blind to is the real agenda here. electric rates unlike anything else is directly controlled by the public service commission which is a fact way of saying by the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT not by free enterprise or supply and demand like every other industry in this country. they crave this control over us
I drive a Dodge truck. I don't really think, or care what anyone else drives.
I'm aware of all of that, I thought this thread was about people that bought electric trucks.  :-\
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« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2023, 01:16:44 AM »
it is and so is the fact that every one of those idiots hurt us and that sure concerns me and being from texas that is one of the biggest oil producing states i would think it would concern a Texan even more
ive got a dodge too and i care alot because 5 more years of this crap and you wont at best be able to afford fuel and thats if its not banned or its not illegal to drive it. everyone of those clueless yuppy idiots that buy one puts another nail in the coffin. biden doest give a rats ass what it will cost you or this country when you get your electric bill or electric rationing. if hes reelected he will not have to worry about popularity or reelection. if you think these ideas are stupid now it will escalate to insanity. its like saying you dont care how someone else votes. one thing people dont know or are blind to is the real agenda here. electric rates unlike anything else is directly controlled by the public service commission which is a fact way of saying by the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT not by free enterprise or supply and demand like every other industry in this country. they crave this control over us
I drive a Dodge truck. I don't really think, or care what anyone else drives.
I'm aware of all of that, I thought this thread was about people that bought electric trucks.  :-\


Well Lloyd, I think everyone knows that Bidens agenda is to shut down fossil fuel production in the Divided States, but I commented on your link which was about folks buying electric vehicles getting bad results.

Now you're lecturing, and scolding me on something entirely different, that I likely know more about than you.
I look at oil pumpjacks, oil fields,  and oil field workers every day on the ranch I manage.  :-\
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« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2023, 02:00:54 AM »
nope not lecturing or scolding anyone. just stating the facts and stating them in a pot I started. so i guess as long as i stay within the rules i can go anywhere i want with it. if you didnt like where it went you had the option to ignore the post. but to claim im scolding you is a bit silly.
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« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2023, 02:11:24 AM »
nope not lecturing or scolding anyone. just stating the facts and stating them in a pot I started. so i guess as long as i stay within the rules i can go anywhere i want with it. if you didnt like where it went you had the option to ignore the post. but to claim im scolding you is a bit silly.

Well that went as expected.
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« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2023, 02:14:10 AM »
dont go away mad. its out of character ::)
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« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2023, 02:20:53 AM »
Back to ignoring Lloyd.  8)
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« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2023, 02:37:57 AM »
dam now you hurt my feelings.  ;). have to wonder if other then bill there's anyone here that you haven't said that to at one time or another. i wont ignore you or anyone. ignoring is for people that are frustrated because they cant come up with an intelligent argument. maybe you can come up with one of you little cartoon pictures to make me feel a little worse. those really hurt ;) fact is you dont ignore anyone. dont know how many times you said that about trumpwon but there you are in about every post he makes.
Back to ignoring Lloyd.  8)
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« Reply #14 on: August 12, 2023, 05:21:19 AM »
This EV and green energy push is all climate change related. They keep telling us, follow the science. Except the ''scientists'' they want us to believe, are all funded by governments and globalists. How about real climate people, Dr. Judith Curry, or co- founder of The Weather Channel, John Coleman. Both have said, baloney on man made climate change. Who do they push, a teenager, who's in her first year of college, that has autism. I'm sorry she has it, but compared to somebody with 3+ decade's of studying and learning about the climate. Why did they pick her, because people will feel sorry for her, believe the nonsense, and let them put the ring in their nose.
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« Reply #15 on: August 12, 2023, 05:54:58 AM »
exactly!
This EV and green energy push is all climate change related. They keep telling us, follow the science. Except the ''scientists'' they want us to believe, are all funded by governments and globalists. How about real climate people, Dr. Judith Curry, or co- founder of The Weather Channel, John Coleman. Both have said, baloney on man made climate change. Who do they push, a teenager, who's in her first year of college, that has autism. I'm sorry she has it, but compared to somebody with 3+ decade's of studying and learning about the climate. Why did they pick her, because people will feel sorry for her, believe the nonsense, and let them put the ring in their nose.
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« Reply #16 on: August 12, 2023, 06:18:52 AM »
This EV and green energy push is all climate change related. They keep telling us, follow the science. Except the ''scientists'' they want us to believe, are all funded by governments and globalists. How about real climate people, Dr. Judith Curry, or co- founder of The Weather Channel, John Coleman. Both have said, baloney on man made climate change. Who do they push, a teenager, who's in her first year of college, that has autism. I'm sorry she has it, but compared to somebody with 3+ decade's of studying and learning about the climate. Why did they pick her, because people will feel sorry for her, believe the nonsense, and let them put the ring in their nose.

Thats exactly right! All the scientists are bought and paid for by governments, the WHO, the UN, and others. Think they are going to say something different than Man is causing global warming, and lose their funding, and payoffs that are rolling in? Absolutely not!  Those scientists that are not on the government dole, are calling the man made global warming exactly what it is. A scam.  This might seem off topic but as gypsyman said the global warming scam is whats driving the EV market.  Its already said that just in a couple years there will be a lithium shortage, because the world just doesn't have enough lithium. One Lithium ion battery pack per car takes around 17 to 18 pounds of lithium.  I suppose people that go out and buy an EV can at least feel good about themselves.  Good luck taking it anywhere. Especially in heat and cold.
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« Reply #17 on: August 12, 2023, 01:53:29 PM »
Good news!- next year you can probably vote for a president that doesn’t believe in climate change.
Bad news- probably will be the last time you’ll be able to do that. :(

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« Reply #18 on: August 12, 2023, 02:20:59 PM »
You are a pos...

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« Reply #19 on: August 12, 2023, 04:26:16 PM »
Good news!- next year you can probably vote for a president that doesn’t believe in climate change.
Bad news- probably will be the last time you’ll be able to do that. :(
Remember reading a Time magazine in the early 70's that said the Earth would be covered with glaciers in 20 years. Still waiting!
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« Reply #20 on: August 12, 2023, 04:39:52 PM »
You need a science based conspiracy theory! ;)

1970s ice age predictions were predominantly media based. The majority of peer reviewed research at the time predicted warming due to increasing CO2.

Despite the majority of studies projecting warming, one common myth today misrepresents climate science in the 1970s by saying that the general understanding was of an imminent ice age. The small fraction of studies predicting cooling received a lot of media attention in the 1970s. The idea of a forthcoming ice age made for great headlines. The effect of this disproportionate media coverage persists today, as some people and organizations continue to perpetuate the idea that an ice age was predicted in the 1970s.

Those who continue to spread this idea create a straw man argument. A straw man is when an opponent’s position is misrepresented in order to make that position easier to attack. In this case, the position is the cooling prediction that was only held by a small minority of scientists, and has since been abandoned. This straw man results in the distortion of public understanding of climate science, and made it easier to cast doubt on the fact that our planet is currently warming due to human activity.

https://journals.ametsoc.org/view/journals/bams/89/9/2008bams2370_1.xml

https://skepticalscience.com/ice-age-predictions-in-1970s-basic.htm

https://skepticalscience.com/ice-age-predictions-in-1970s-intermediate.htm

https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=4335191&page=1

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« Reply #21 on: August 12, 2023, 05:51:11 PM »
So not to worry, if all the believers in CO2 Global Warming quit producing CO2, they will do all they can to save the rest of us.  Please get on with it. Thank you.
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« Reply #22 on: August 12, 2023, 08:56:22 PM »
your whole socialist movement is media based. its a bunch of young girls and homos that crave a sense of power spurred on by some crooked politicians that push this crap and convince you that they care about you so you keep them in power to push their real agenda which is complete control. comical that you idiots think when they get there they will trat you any different. scientists a just a bought and paid for tool to lie to you to get you in line. fauci is a perfect example for you. he is allowed to make bald face lies and not held accountable for basically mass murder. your own president and his son sold their soles to our worst enemies and profited millions of dollars and your "media" wont even call them out. now their running the biggest election fraud scandal in history trying in ant unlawful way they can to take out there most formidable opponent and YOU the media cheer it on. you must struggle every morning looking in the mirror. not that your so evil or wrong but live with the shame of pushing your lies and knowing that they cut your balls off years ago. your father must be proud but then he probably left your sorry ass years ago. you just arent intellegent enough to see that the democrats are trying to scare you into voting for the hands down worse president this country has ever seen. nothing but a ponokeo puppet these power hungry sobs are pulling the strings on. but then they are pulling your strings too.
You need a science based conspiracy theory! ;)

1970s ice age predictions were predominantly media based. The majority of peer reviewed research at the time predicted warming due to increasing CO2.

Despite the majority of studies projecting warming, one common myth today misrepresents climate science in the 1970s by saying that the general understanding was of an imminent ice age. The small fraction of studies predicting cooling received a lot of media attention in the 1970s. The idea of a forthcoming ice age made for great headlines. The effect of this disproportionate media coverage persists today, as some people and organizations continue to perpetuate the idea that an ice age was predicted in the 1970s.

Those who continue to spread this idea create a straw man argument. A straw man is when an opponent’s position is misrepresented in order to make that position easier to attack. In this case, the position is the cooling prediction that was only held by a small minority of scientists, and has since been abandoned. This straw man results in the distortion of public understanding of climate science, and made it easier to cast doubt on the fact that our planet is currently warming due to human activity.

https://journals.ametsoc.org/view/journals/bams/89/9/2008bams2370_1.xml

https://skepticalscience.com/ice-age-predictions-in-1970s-basic.htm

https://skepticalscience.com/ice-age-predictions-in-1970s-intermediate.htm

https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=4335191&page=1
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« Reply #23 on: August 13, 2023, 03:10:54 AM »
You need a science based conspiracy theory! ;)

1970s ice age predictions were predominantly media based. The majority of peer reviewed research at the time predicted warming due to increasing CO2.

Despite the majority of studies projecting warming, one common myth today misrepresents climate science in the 1970s by saying that the general understanding was of an imminent ice age. The small fraction of studies predicting cooling received a lot of media attention in the 1970s. The idea of a forthcoming ice age made for great headlines. The effect of this disproportionate media coverage persists today, as some people and organizations continue to perpetuate the idea that an ice age was predicted in the 1970s.

Those who continue to spread this idea create a straw man argument. A straw man is when an opponent’s position is misrepresented in order to make that position easier to attack. In this case, the position is the cooling prediction that was only held by a small minority of scientists, and has since been abandoned. This straw man results in the distortion of public understanding of climate science, and made it easier to cast doubt on the fact that our planet is currently warming due to human activity.

https://journals.ametsoc.org/view/journals/bams/89/9/2008bams2370_1.xml

https://skepticalscience.com/ice-age-predictions-in-1970s-basic.htm

https://skepticalscience.com/ice-age-predictions-in-1970s-intermediate.htm

https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=4335191&page=1
OK, how about a couple of interviews on You Tube, Just News. One with Dr. Patrick Moore. And another with Dr. John Christy. Dr. Moore was one of the founders of Greenpeace. Quit when it started becoming to political and money oriented!! HMM, maybe he's on to something!!
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« Reply #24 on: August 13, 2023, 09:51:00 AM »
Science loves to be challenged. More power to Christy and Moore. However, their challenges which date back to about 2005 have no scientific agreement or consensus amongst their piers.

Scientific consensus on causation: Academic studies of scientific agreement on human-caused global warming among climate experts (2010–2015) reflect that the level of consensus correlates with expertise in climate science. A 2019 study found scientific consensus to be at 100%, and a 2021 study concluded that consensus exceeded 99%. Another 2021 study found that 98.7% of climate experts indicated that the Earth is getting warmer mostly because of human activity.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_consensus_on_climate_change#:~:text=The%20current%20scientific%20consensus%20is,and%20severity%20of%20global%20effects.

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« Reply #25 on: August 13, 2023, 10:30:41 AM »
This EV and green energy push is all climate change related. They keep telling us, follow the science. Except the ''scientists'' they want us to believe, are all funded by governments and globalists. How about real climate people, Dr. Judith Curry, or co- founder of The Weather Channel, John Coleman. Both have said, baloney on man made climate change. Who do they push, a teenager, who's in her first year of college, that has autism. I'm sorry she has it, but compared to somebody with 3+ decade's of studying and learning about the climate. Why did they pick her, because people will feel sorry for her, believe the nonsense, and let them put the ring in their nose.

Once anything is perverted, in this case “ science “ it loses all credibility... So many areas of concept have been perverted and the “ new science “ is just one of them. George Orwell had it right, he did have a insiders view.