At keast 9 Americans killed..

[ironglow]

  Hamas killed at least 9 Americans, and took hostage how many more?  All a direct result of pathetically weak leadership here.
 
  Blinken may no know it, but lefty Rolling Stone does..
    https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/american-hostages-captured-israel-ambassadors-1234848832/

   With ANY Americans being held hostage, this pathetic president should show atiny bit of courage, and send in our own "hostage rescue" operations.

  I know Mossad likely has some very good hostage rescue personnel, but with so mnany total hostages, the thugs are likely to be holding them in
   many diverse places.  So it is our duty to rescue our own.

  I know we have such very teams, and they are very capable.

  When my grandson was with MARSOC (Marine Special Operations Command), I found that elite forces train against one another, rather than regular
    against troops...stands to reason.

   He went through special exercises, which duplicate just such a situation.  For his particular exercises, the rules said.." have the hostage, you guys
   get him..no knives, guns or other weapons..and no "killing" blows..  The Marines' adversary for that trraining period, were the SEALs..

   In one exercise, he got a busted lip, but they got their hostage.  So we have the expertise..all we need do is utilize them..

     Seals, MARSOC, Rangers and Green Berets, all have such teams..cross trained with each other. So Joe should not be allowed any more excuses..

  We should go get our own..

   

[mcbammer]

     

      Two church groups visiting the Holyland , from Alabama are  currently trying to get out of  there .

[gene_225]

We heard yesterday that our missionaries were told to hide in their apartments until rescued. Lots of prayer needed for all involved.

[Ranger99]

My parents were good friends with some
people that were missionaries in s. africa
back in the late 50's and early and mid 60's.
Things got bad during that time and they
finally had to return to America so as to
keep from being chopped up with machetes
like some other missionaries did.
Leaving a troubled area is prudent and not
shirking your duty

[Dee]

Make that 11.

[Ranger99]

Make that 11.

I wouldn't doubt that at all
There's probably more that aren't being
talked about.

[Dee]

Nope! But they went over there on their own volition, and I think we need to let Israel handle it.

[Ranger99]

. . . . let Israel handle it.

And they will.
And without having to appoint a
special investigative committee
to study the situation for 22 months.

They know what to do with varmints
to prevent a repeat of malicious happenings.
Kinda like we used to do here

[darkgael]

We should go get our own..

It is not quite that simple. The Israelis would have to Ok the operation and they have been known to be a mite techy about such things.

[ironglow]

We should go get our own..

It is not quite that simple. The Israelis would have to Ok the operation and they have been known to be a mite techy about such things.

   We hav eour own reasons to draw blood of Hamas...  the score of dead Americans is up to 11 so far, and more expected.  No telling what is
   happening to those they took captive.

  We do know that the murderers have already said they plan on starting to murder the captives, one-by-one...reason enough in itself to go in.

  Somehow, i doubt Joe is likely to do it... unless he can find a way it would benefit the Democrat party.

  In any case, I have little doubt the Israelis would coordinate attacks along with our Spec ops...

 

[Dee]

We should go get our own..

It is not quite that simple. The Israelis would have to Ok the operation and they have been known to be a mite techy about such things.

Agreed. Our own, are a bunch of mostly tourists, that went over there on their own volition. There have been terrorist attacks, and wars there since Israel was re-established. PLUS! You don't just get up one morning and tell Israel: Hey! we're coming in to get a bunch of dumbass american tourists that are somewhere they shouldn't have been. It doesn't work that way.
I guess while we're at it, we could go over to Russia and get that dumbass reporter they've got in jail since he's one of our own. Where does it stop? Americans wonder off to war torn places that have a history of terrorism, and are clearly, and historically anti American. Can't go get everybody that wonders off.

[Ranger99]

Yeah
I haven't been to mexico for a long time
now because it's way too blankety blanking
dangerous, even at the resorts. They were
off limits for decades before the cartels
as we know today were formed. The poeleece
would have your back if you were spending
money and acting halfway civilized.
Used to be a great place to go and spend
time and money. 
I won't go anywhere any more that I can't
walk back from in a few days.
I don't care to get beheaded on video for
Aljazeera, or get chopped up by machetes
and burned up in a pile of tires

[gypsyman]

 Hope I'm wrong, but that war over there, could move to this country. With Biden opening the southern border almost 3 years ago, millions have come to this country, without any back ground check. And I know I've read, some were from the middle east. It took 19 Muslims to pull off 9-11. How many are here now from a terrorist group? With the U.S. being the biggest supporter of Israel, an attack on us, would be an attack on Israel in their mind.

[mcbammer]

     26 BLM chapters across the country  show solidarity with HAMAS .

                https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/10/10/black-lives-matter-organization-shows-support-for-hamas-amid-terror-attack-on-israel/

[Ranger99]

Many have forgotten about the big thing in
this area with the Holy Land Foundation, a
a "charitable " organization in Richardson
Texas that was a front for terrorists.
They were funneling money to hamas and
other terrorist groups and had sort of a
"life insurance " set up for the families of
suicide bombers and terrorist groups
members that were killed in action.
The feds broke it up and some went to
prison and some funds were seized.
People involved from california to
new jersey.
Money laundering and weapons purchases
and everything else going on under the
citizens noses. I should have probably
wrote apathetic noses, because these
decades later things are still basically
the same. Still comfortable. Still
enabling and making excuses.