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« Reply #30 on: November 07, 2023, 03:34:36 AM »
A whole lot of people thought they knew when the end would happen. The Mayans, William Miller, Jim Jones, Branch Davidians, Heavens Gates, and Nostradamus. The only one who might get it right is Nostradamus. He says it wont be till 3786, or 3797. Since I don't think I'll last that long, I'll try and not lose to much sleep over it!
   All those you listed are false prophets..and have been proven so.  Jesus told his followers to "watch and wait", because even He did not know
   the day or hour of His return. That was reserved by the Father
(Matt 24:36)...However, we know it will happen..

 
I thought you believed in the trinity. Jesus is your God ,how could he not know ?

 Which only indicates your ignorance of Biblical truths. So you cannot understand the doctriune of the trinity, others can understand, just ask
   them!

 ..But then again..you have been given scriptural truth and still reject it..so you destination is in your own hands..
ah, so you don't believe in the trinity

   What are you smoking now locust?
If you don't want the truth, don't ask me.  If you want something sugar coated...go eat a donut !  (anon)

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« Reply #31 on: November 07, 2023, 07:18:29 AM »
Hes not smokin anything. Hes just pushing your easily pushed buttons.
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« Reply #32 on: November 07, 2023, 07:42:56 AM »
Hes not smokin anything. Hes just pushing your easily pushed buttons.

   ..Let him push...the push back is even stronger...  Just as in politics, keeping silent in the face of lies, simply allows the phonies to prosper.
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« Reply #33 on: November 07, 2023, 07:55:27 AM »
Its more like your the straight man, and he delivers endless punch lines.
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« Reply #34 on: November 07, 2023, 08:12:29 AM »
Its more like your the straight man, and he delivers endless punch lines.

   Couuld be, but nothing compels you to participate..
If you don't want the truth, don't ask me.  If you want something sugar coated...go eat a donut !  (anon)

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« Reply #35 on: November 07, 2023, 09:18:38 AM »
Its more like your the straight man, and he delivers endless punch lines.

   Couuld be, but nothing compels you to participate..

You've got a point.  8)
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« Reply #36 on: November 08, 2023, 07:16:50 AM »
A whole lot of people thought they knew when the end would happen. The Mayans, William Miller, Jim Jones, Branch Davidians, Heavens Gates, and Nostradamus. The only one who might get it right is Nostradamus. He says it wont be till 3786, or 3797. Since I don't think I'll last that long, I'll try and not lose to much sleep over it!
   All those you listed are false prophets..and have been proven so.  Jesus told his followers to "watch and wait", because even He did not know
   the day or hour of His return. That was reserved by the Father
(Matt 24:36)...However, we know it will happen..

 
I thought you believed in the trinity. Jesus is your God ,how could he not know ?

 Which only indicates your ignorance of Biblical truths. So you cannot understand the doctriune of the trinity, others can understand, just ask
   them!

 ..But then again..you have been given scriptural truth and still reject it..so you destination is in your own hands..
ah, so you don't believe in the trinity

   What are you smoking now locust?
smoked a  ironglow   ....to easy

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Re: End times/armageddon/apocalypse/ doomsday
« Reply #37 on: November 08, 2023, 08:30:56 AM »
A whole lot of people thought they knew when the end would happen. The Mayans, William Miller, Jim Jones, Branch Davidians, Heavens Gates, and Nostradamus. The only one who might get it right is Nostradamus. He says it wont be till 3786, or 3797. Since I don't think I'll last that long, I'll try and not lose to much sleep over it!
   All those you listed are false prophets..and have been proven so.  Jesus told his followers to "watch and wait", because even He did not know
   the day or hour of His return. That was reserved by the Father
(Matt 24:36)...However, we know it will happen..

 
I thought you believed in the trinity. Jesus is your God ,how could he not know ?

 Which only indicates your ignorance of Biblical truths. So you cannot understand the doctriune of the trinity, others can understand, just ask
   them!

 ..But then again..you have been given scriptural truth and still reject it..so you destination is in your own hands..
ah, so you don't believe in the trinity

   What are you smoking now locust?
smoked a  ironglow   ....to easy

   Something suggests that someday, you will find out on a more personal level, exactly what "smoked" means..   ;) ;D
If you don't want the truth, don't ask me.  If you want something sugar coated...go eat a donut !  (anon)
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« Reply #38 on: November 08, 2023, 02:21:18 PM »
Quote from: ironglow link=topic=

   Something suggests that someday, you will find out on a more personal level, exactly what "smoked" means..   ;) ;D
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i like ''Smoke: To defeat or surpass decisively ''

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« Reply #39 on: November 09, 2023, 01:08:40 AM »
looks like a cult. dad always said go with the odds. if 5 people tell you the same thing and ones different put your money on the sure bet.

in this world today there are 17 million nut lds believers  that many years ago started worshiping a man instead of God and told even his own people that only a small percentage of them even qualifies to go to heaven

now compare that to 2.4 BILLION Christians in the world and he wonders why his opinions are worth about the same as the moonies that used to hang around airports

just in catholics there are 1.4 BILLION almost 10 to 1. if you saw a girl you were interested in and 10 of your friends said she was an evil bitch and one said she was ok would date her?  would you marry her after a couple days and hand her everything you had believe her when she said her daddy was a saint appointed by GOD

maybe you should put down you keyboard, get the family all dressed up and try to drum up a few more gullible enough or lonely enough to let in through the door. i still chuckle remembering one day when i was young. i was at grandmas and your kind showed up and she chased them out of the yard with a broom in one hand and a bible (the real one) in her other hand. i asked  her why and she said this is the bible and anyone trys to say it isnt is sent to you by satan
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« Reply #40 on: November 09, 2023, 03:21:49 AM »
  Especially when the Bible reaffirms that Christians are correct !  Here, from.... John chapter 10...where the people who were actually there, and spoke to Jesus..face -to-face and completely uinderstanding His Aramaic dialect, knew He said that He is God...

   29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.

30 I and my Father are one.

31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.

32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?

33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.


   So now Locust... tell us the Bible is mistaken..because you have a few old men sitting in Tuxedo Park, saying the BIBLE is mistaken and the WATCHTOWER has it correct.
If you don't want the truth, don't ask me.  If you want something sugar coated...go eat a donut !  (anon)

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« Reply #41 on: November 09, 2023, 07:28:46 AM »
i guess if the truth hurts tear it up and write your own lies that justify having a harem and even a few 15 year olds. im sure God would approve.  :o
  Especially when the Bible reaffirms that Christians are correct !  Here, from.... John chapter 10...where the people who were actually there, and spoke to Jesus..face -to-face and completely uinderstanding His Aramaic dialect, knew He said that He is God...

   29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.

30 I and my Father are one.

31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.

32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?

33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.


   So now Locust... tell us the Bible is mistaken..because you have a few old men sitting in Tuxedo Park, saying the BIBLE is mistaken and the WATCHTOWER has it correct.
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« Reply #42 on: November 09, 2023, 11:05:27 AM »
i guess if the truth hurts tear it up and write your own lies that justify having a harem and even a few 15 year olds. im sure God would approve.  :o
  Especially when the Bible reaffirms that Christians are correct !  Here, from.... John chapter 10...where the people who were actually there, and spoke to Jesus..face -to-face and completely uinderstanding His Aramaic dialect, knew He said that He is God...

   29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.

30 I and my Father are one.

31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.

32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?

33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.


   So now Locust... tell us the Bible is mistaken..because you have a few old men sitting in Tuxedo Park, saying the BIBLE is mistaken and the WATCHTOWER has it correct.

   This?   https://www.fox43.com/article/news/local/jehovahs-witnesses-emails-child-sex-abuse-allegations/521-d7ead034-ae47-4451-82e4-337190539602
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« Reply #43 on: November 09, 2023, 01:17:02 PM »
i guess if the truth hurts tear it up and write your own lies that justify having a harem and even a few 15 year olds. im sure God would approve.  :o
  Especially when the Bible reaffirms that Christians are correct !  Here, from.... John chapter 10...where the people who were actually there, and spoke to Jesus..face -to-face and completely uinderstanding His Aramaic dialect, knew He said that He is God...

   29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.

30 I and my Father are one.

31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.

32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?

33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.


   So now Locust... tell us the Bible is mistaken..because you have a few old men sitting in Tuxedo Park, saying the BIBLE is mistaken and the WATCHTOWER has it correct.

   This?   https://www.fox43.com/article/news/local/jehovahs-witnesses-emails-child-sex-abuse-allegations/521-d7ead034-ae47-4451-82e4-337190539602
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_abuse_cases_in_Southern_Baptist_churches

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« Reply #44 on: November 09, 2023, 02:06:44 PM »
i guess if the truth hurts tear it up and write your own lies that justify having a harem and even a few 15 year olds. im sure God would approve.  :o
  Especially when the Bible reaffirms that Christians are correct !  Here, from.... John chapter 10...where the people who were actually there, and spoke to Jesus..face -to-face and completely uinderstanding His Aramaic dialect, knew He said that He is God...

   29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.

30 I and my Father are one.

31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.

32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?

33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.


   
a interesting set of scriptures  ''My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.''  imagine that,, father gave them to a lesser one, and that lesser one is your god ?
   

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« Reply #45 on: November 10, 2023, 02:35:16 AM »
you dont get it. im not interested in your opinion on ANYTHING
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« Reply #46 on: November 10, 2023, 04:24:17 AM »
i guess if the truth hurts tear it up and write your own lies that justify having a harem and even a few 15 year olds. im sure God would approve.  :o
  Especially when the Bible reaffirms that Christians are correct !  Here, from.... John chapter 10...where the people who were actually there, and spoke to Jesus..face -to-face and completely uinderstanding His Aramaic dialect, knew He said that He is God...

   29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.

30 I and my Father are one.

31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.

32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?

33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.


   
a interesting set of scriptures  ''My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.''  imagine that,, father gave them to a lesser one, and that lesser one is your god ?
 

   Again; you take a phrase out of context...here from John 10:

       25Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me.

26But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.

27My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

28And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

29My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.

30I and my Father are one.


   You just ignored what Jesus said (red letters)
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« Reply #47 on: November 10, 2023, 05:29:35 AM »
yup but southern baptists think its illegal and immoral. you guys think its your God given right to molest little girls
i guess if the truth hurts tear it up and write your own lies that justify having a harem and even a few 15 year olds. im sure God would approve.  :o
  Especially when the Bible reaffirms that Christians are correct !  Here, from.... John chapter 10...where the people who were actually there, and spoke to Jesus..face -to-face and completely uinderstanding His Aramaic dialect, knew He said that He is God...

   29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.

30 I and my Father are one.

31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.

32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?

33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.


   So now Locust... tell us the Bible is mistaken..because you have a few old men sitting in Tuxedo Park, saying the BIBLE is mistaken and the WATCHTOWER has it correct.

   This?   https://www.fox43.com/article/news/local/jehovahs-witnesses-emails-child-sex-abuse-allegations/521-d7ead034-ae47-4451-82e4-337190539602
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_abuse_cases_in_Southern_Baptist_churches
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« Reply #48 on: November 10, 2023, 05:42:00 AM »
  So Locust,  what are you trying to tell us, .. that some Southern Baptists are as bad as your elders?
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« Reply #49 on: November 10, 2023, 07:30:50 AM »
  So Locust,  what are you trying to tell us, .. that some Southern Baptists are as bad as your elders?
maybe they were Southern Baptists before they became JW's. it would explain things.  ::) :-\

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« Reply #50 on: November 10, 2023, 10:16:16 AM »
  So Locust,  what are you trying to tell us, .. that some Southern Baptists are as bad as your elders?
maybe they were Southern Baptists before they became JW's. it would explain things.  ::) :-\

  Not very likely, however I am pleased that you finally came through with admitting your cult religion, in just the last two posts.

  The JWs were slick enouigh to let each location stand on their own, rather than to face charges as one body..

    https://www.shaheengordon.com/blog/2023/july/historic-40-million-settlement-awarded-to-hawaii/#:~:text=July%2021%2C%202023%20By%20Shaheen%20%26%20Gordon%2C

   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AJPHGMt9JI

   how many other locals will be disbanded?

 
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« Reply #51 on: November 10, 2023, 12:49:36 PM »
  So Locust,  what are you trying to tell us, .. that some Southern Baptists are as bad as your elders?
maybe they were Southern Baptists before they became JW's. it would explain things.  ::) :-\

  Not very likely, however I am pleased that you finally came through with admitting your cult religion, in just the last two posts.

  The JWs were slick enouigh to let each location stand on their own, rather than to face charges as one body..

    https://www.shaheengordon.com/blog/2023/july/historic-40-million-settlement-awarded-to-hawaii/#:~:text=July%2021%2C%202023%20By%20Shaheen%20%26%20Gordon%2C

   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AJPHGMt9JI

   how many other locals will be disbanded?

 
Widespread sexual abuse cases in Southern Baptist churches were reported by the Houston Chronicle and San Antonio Express-News on February 10, 2019. The report found roughly 380 clergy, lay leaders and volunteers had faced allegations of sexual misconduct, leaving behind over 700 victims[1] since 1998. The extent of misconduct is further complicated by work within the Southern Baptist Convention to move sex offenders to other communities and resist attempts to address the culture of abuse."  people in glass houses should not throw stones!


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« Reply #52 on: November 10, 2023, 01:15:55 PM »
. The extent of misconduct is further complicated by work within the Southern Baptist Convention to move sex offenders to other communities and resist attempts to address the culture of abuse."  people in glass houses should not throw stones!

You got a link backing this claim of yours loco, or is this just more baiting of ironglow to get another reaction?
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« Reply #53 on: November 10, 2023, 01:42:35 PM »
So a few bad apples in a denomination of 13 million.  Same with bad apples in ANY denomination.  Youth directors, pastors who council women alone in their offices.  Our pastor in the Assembly of God would not council women alone without his wife present in the room.  Same with our youth pastor.  This is easily fixed.  No one can claim in any group of people there may be a bad person.  Heck the government has found in about 7-8 different extensive surveys that 3% of the people are gay.  This is higher now but could be peer pressure.  Even 19.8% of all people according to the government surveys have some form of mental illness.  You have bi-polar people, schizophrenia, borderline personality disorders, etc.  This is 2 out of every 10.  Churches included.

We are warned to be gentle as doves but sharp as serpants.  We have to have discernment.  Discernment is one of the gifts of the spirit.  The devil works in chruches too, not just in politics.  America needs salvation and deliverance, and this only comes through Jesus Christ. 

We are also warned in the Bible that in the last days people will call good evil (Christians) and evil good (LBGTQ stuff), dishonor their parents, they will be liars, thieves, murderers, adulterers, fornicators, etc.  All of this has greatly expanded in recent history.  The Jews have returned to their homeland as Jesus foretold.  America is turning from God to secularism, athieism, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God.  There are a few things left, like rebuilding the temple in Jerusalem, but not much more. 

The "Kings of the East" are to invade the Middle East with 200 million.  China has 200 million in their armed forces, their national guard, and all police forces.  There is also India that is larger than China now and the Hindu's don't like and even hate Muslims.  There is God and Magog with an army to the north (Russia or even Turkey), There is the last major kingdom (part clay and part iron) of the old Roman Empire (European Union or NATO).  Lots of thing are lining up.  The power of America was the only think keeping the evil of the world in Check since WWII.  Now we are much weaker with free trade agreements stripping our manufacturing, open border with millions of who knows who coming in, kids are graduating high school and can't balance their bank accounts, read beyond a 4th grade level, or know much of anything.  The American know how and work ethic is all but gone.  Drugs, alcohol, prostitution, gambling are everywhere.  The military is under staffed because of "woke" crap being pushed in the military. 

Japan wanted to know how they were beaten in WWII when they thought they could never be beaten.  They determined it was the white, Anglo-saxon, protestant work ethic, and they copied it and rebuilt their country.  Where is it today. 
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« Reply #54 on: November 10, 2023, 03:23:14 PM »
. The extent of misconduct is further complicated by work within the Southern Baptist Convention to move sex offenders to other communities and resist attempts to address the culture of abuse."  people in glass houses should not throw stones!

You got a link backing this claim of yours loco, or is this just more baiting of ironglow to get another reaction?
as a matter of fact yes .it was already posted ,maybe you missed it . here's a reminder  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_abuse_cases_in_Southern_Baptist_churches

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« Reply #55 on: November 10, 2023, 03:40:18 PM »
. The extent of misconduct is further complicated by work within the Southern Baptist Convention to move sex offenders to other communities and resist attempts to address the culture of abuse."  people in glass houses should not throw stones!

You got a link backing this claim of yours loco, or is this just more baiting of ironglow to get another reaction?
as a matter of fact yes .it was already posted ,maybe you missed it . here's a reminder  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_abuse_cases_in_Southern_Baptist_churches

Interesting. I broke from the SBC church about 15 years ago, but for different reasons.

Some here seem to believe your a member of the Jehovahs Witnesses. Care to confirm, or deny that rumor?
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Re: End times/armageddon/apocalypse/ doomsday
« Reply #56 on: November 10, 2023, 10:13:48 PM »
there are perverts in every church and every workplace. only the lds makes it the norm, condones it and even encourages it claiming God wants them to molest 15 year old girls
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Re: End times/armageddon/apocalypse/ doomsday
« Reply #57 on: November 11, 2023, 12:57:42 AM »
I just love reading these discussions.  You guys are just confirming my belief that worshipping a higher power is a human concept, and has no basis in factual events.

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« Reply #58 on: November 11, 2023, 01:37:49 AM »
believe what you want. God gave you free will to decide where you go after the short time you spend here.
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Re: End times/armageddon/apocalypse/ doomsday
« Reply #59 on: November 11, 2023, 01:51:34 AM »
I just love reading these discussions.  You guys are just confirming my belief that worshipping a higher power is a human concept, and has no basis in factual events.

Roger.....Laughing at humanity.

Deer, cows, and horses all eat grass, but all threes poop looks different. Do you know why, without looking it up?
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