How Obama set the stage for Islamic jihad..

[ironglow]

  The radical left has more in common with radical Islamists, than they have with Christian America.  This short video (4+minutes) explains the
  why and wherefore..

   

    https://www.frontpagemag.com/glazov-gang-how-obama-enabled-hamas-terror-attack-on-israel/

[Dee]

Palestinians were attacking Israel before Obamas' parents were born. TheIslamic Jihad grew out of the Muslim Brotherhood in the 1980s long before Barack Obama was even heard of.
These Palestinians, a made up ethnic group are a mixture of Jordanians, Egyptians, and other trouble making nomadic Arabs that nobody wants, but to say that Obama  set the stage for something that has been happening since before 1948 is really reaching.

[ironglow]

  THe Jews have been attacked by Ishmael's progeny, ever since Ishmael was born, nothing new there.  What the video points  out, is how Obama, working from a lofty seat in the oval office, "legitimized" hatred and antisemitism, in the weak, juvenile minds of the radical left..

[gypsyman]

 Look at history, Hebrews,(Jewish) have been at war with the Moabites, Arameans, Philistines, Syrians, Edomites, Muslims for thousands of years. Started long before Obama.

[mcbammer]

   History of the creation of  the state of Israel

                 https://youtu.be/wyt0jlbOPqA

[Dixie-Dude]

Obama encouraged it along with the Muslim Brotherhood which toppled the Libyan government and now it is run by several warlords.  It toppled Egypt's government until a military coup restored order.  He called ISIS the B team.  Anyway, he encouraged and gave money to these people as well as had our ambasidor killed in Libya in the process. 

[ironglow]

   History of the creation of  the state of Israel

                 https://youtu.be/wyt0jlbOPqA

   Actually, that is the 2nd time around for the establishment of the state of Israel..

[darkgael]

The book "One Palestine, Complete" by Israeli journalist Tom Segev is a detailed account of the history that preceded the establishment of the Jewish state. It is a tale of politics, of greed, of nationalism (both real and artificial), of hatred, disloyalty, insensitivity and some pretty sad events from the late 19th Century until today.
Much of the force of the movement came from the British Gov't in the form of the Balfour Declaration of 1917. Pretty much everything that has occurred since is dominos falling..

[Dixie-Dude]

Jesus said the Temple in Jerusalem would be destroyed within a generation of His death and resurection.  It happened in AD-70.

Jesus said Jerusalem would be in the hands of the gentiles for a season.  It was

Jesus said the Jews would return in the "Last Days".  They have

The Temple will be rebuilt probably sooner than later.

The AntiChrist will desecrate the temple. 

We have to be in or near the last days.  The 10 nations of the old Roman Empire would be ruled by the Anti Christ.  Gog and Magog would come from the north (of Isreal) probably Russia.  Kings of the East will send 200 million troops across the Euphrates River (China and India have the manpower).  The Anti Christ will be seen by everyone in the world (TV & Internet).  Lots of things are adding up. 

[ironglow]

Jesus said the Temple in Jerusalem would be destroyed within a generation of His death and resurection.  It happened in AD-70.

Jesus said Jerusalem would be in the hands of the gentiles for a season.  It was

Jesus said the Jews would return in the "Last Days".  They have

The Temple will be rebuilt probably sooner than later.

The AntiChrist will desecrate the temple. 

We have to be in or near the last days.  The 10 nations of the old Roman Empire would be ruled by the Anti Christ.  Gog and Magog would come from the north (of Isreal) probably Russia.  Kings of the East will send 200 million troops across the Euphrates River (China and India have the manpower).  The Anti Christ will be seen by everyone in the world (TV & Internet).  Lots of things are adding up.

   
  Thanks DD, for a scholarly approach..  a breath of fresh air..

[ironglow]

The book "One Palestine, Complete" by Israeli journalist Tom Segev is a detailed account of the history that preceded the establishment of the Jewish state. It is a tale of politics, of greed, of nationalism (both real and artificial), of hatred, disloyalty, insensitivity and some pretty sad events from the late 19th Century until today.
Much of the force of the movement came from the British Gov't in the form of the Balfour Declaration of 1917. Pretty much everything that has occurred since is dominos falling..

  What notable nation WAS NOT founded with plenty of those same accompanying factors? 

   Surely Israel's antagonists have the same flaws, and they have them in an exponential number.

[darkgael]

What notable nation WAS NOT founded with plenty of those same accompanying factors? 

Be that as it may, the discussion here is about Israel and Islam and how Obama set the stage and not about other “notable nations”.

[Dixie-Dude]

Obama stirred up racial tension in America, when it was almost gone.  Obama stirred up the Muslims as his father was a Muslim.  His father, as Obama said in his book, hated the 3 C's.  Capitalism, Christianity, and Colonialism.  Actually all three brought Africans out of primitive lifestyles, built railroads, roads, hospitals, schools, and established commerce in those nations.  Hating something that brought you forward into the 20th century doesn't make sense. 

Obama said the sweetest sound he heard was the call to prayer in Islamic countries.  Hmm.  Tells you where his heart is. 

[ironglow]

What notable nation WAS NOT founded with plenty of those same accompanying factors? 

Be that as it may, the discussion here is about Israel and Islam and how Obama set the stage and not about other “notable nations”.

   You are of course, speaking of the modern rebirth of Israel.  Even the picture I posted above, was only the reclaimation of their land, when Moses
   led them back.

   The real deed to Israel, is shown in (Genesis 15:1-5).  The boundaries atre outlined in (Genesis 15:18-21)..

[ironglow]

Obama stirred up racial tension in America, when it was almost gone.  Obama stirred up the Muslims as his father was a Muslim.  His father, as Obama said in his book, hated the 3 C's.  Capitalism, Christianity, and Colonialism.  Actually all three brought Africans out of primitive lifestyles, built railroads, roads, hospitals, schools, and established commerce in those nations.  Hating something that brought you forward into the 20th century doesn't make sense. 

Obama said the sweetest sound he heard was the call to prayer in Islamic countries.  Hmm.  Tells you where his heart is.

  His father was a communist Muslim.  Obama's best selling book was entitled "Dreams of My Father"..and he was trying to put those dreams in effect.

  His alleged Kenyan father wrote an article questioning why African "socialism" should be any different than Soviet style "socialism", which again
   points out his Muslim/commie roots.
     
     https://www.politico.com/story/2008/04/long-lost-article-by-obamas-dad-surfaces-009610

   Then of course, some say his hippy mom was a very good friend of Frank Marshall Davis..

   https://www.imdb.com/video/vi2614078745/

 
 

[darkgael]

What notable nation WAS NOT founded with plenty of those same accompanying factors? 

Be that as it may, the discussion here is about Israel and Islam and how Obama set the stage and not about other “notable nations”.

   You are of course, speaking of the modern rebirth of Israel.  Even the picture I posted above, was only the reclaimation of their land, when Moses
   led them back.

   The real deed to Israel, is shown in (Genesis 15:1-5).  The boundaries atre outlined in (Genesis 15:18-21)..

“You are of course speaking of the modern rebirth of Israel”
No, I was not speaking of that at all.

[ironglow]

From DG;

   “You are of course speaking of the modern rebirth of Israel”No, I was not speaking of that at all.
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   Then you must be speaking of the original founding of Israel, some 3,500 years ago, correct?

   I dpon't see any disputes among Abraham's people..although the Hittites, Amorites and Canaanites, etc. disputed the claim.

   Here is the original deed and title;

   
18 In the same day the Lord made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates:

19 The Kenites, and the Kenizzites, and the Kadmonites,

20 And the Hittites, and the Perizzites, and the Rephaims,

21 And the Amorites, and the Canaanites, and the Girgashites, and the Jebusites.   (Gen 15:18-210




     

[Dee]

I personally doubt that Barack Obama had that much of an impact on an effort to eradicate the jews that has been going on since Abraham. People like to attach modern political characters to "on going historical prophecy" that would have happened with, or without people like Adolph Hitler, or Barack Obama ever having existed. God Himself, has no interest in politics, and His intentions,  and purposes, will be carried out regardless of who, what, when, or where, anything,  or anybody, is, or isn't. jmpo

[darkgael]

From DG;

   “You are of course speaking of the modern rebirth of Israel”No, I was not speaking of that at all.

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   Then you must be speaking of the original founding of Israel, some 3,500 years ago, correct?

   I dpon't see any disputes among Abraham's people..although the Hittites, Amorites and Canaanites, etc. disputed the claim.

   Here is the original deed and title;

   
18 In the same day the Lord made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates:

19 The Kenites, and the Kenizzites, and the Kadmonites,

20 And the Hittites, and the Perizzites, and the Rephaims,

21 And the Amorites, and the Canaanites, and the Girgashites, and the Jebusites.   (Gen 15:18-210




   
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I was not addressing the founding of Israel at all, neither ancient nor modern

[ironglow]

"God Himself, has no interest in politics, and His intentions,  and purposes, will be carried out regardless of who, what, when, or where, anything,  or anybody, is, or isn't. jmpo"
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   I cannot speak to what God has or has not in His mind as priorities.  I can rest assured however, that whatever He thinks or does, will be righteous
   and just.    ...But I hesitate to declare exactly what he has in mind.

   
8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the Lord.

9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.   (Isaiah 55:8,9)

[Dee]

"God Himself, has no interest in politics, and His intentions,  and purposes, will be carried out regardless of who, what, when, or where, anything,  or anybody, is, or isn't. jmpo"
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

   I cannot speak to what God has or has not in His mind as priorities.  I can rest assured however, that whatever He thinks or does, will be righteous
   and just.    ...But I hesitate to declare exactly what he has in mind.

   
8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the Lord.

9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.   (Isaiah 55:8,9)

Well, there you go, AGAIN, nitpicking my point, and trying to bed infallible.

[ironglow]

  The honest truth may be closer to this; ...But then, what do the Demonrats know about honest truth?