According to NY Times?

[ironglow]

  According to NY Times/Sienna poll, Trump leads Biden in 5 of 6 key battleground states.  The one Biden still leads in,  is Wisconsin.  Must be the swing area there is their capital city of... Mad-in'the-sun...

[Dee]

I don't have any faith in the polls.

[mcbammer]

I don't have any faith in the polls.

   Neither do I ,  They'll be enough mail-in ballots to make sure the polls are wrong .

[GTS225]

I have NEVER been asked by any "poll" what my opinion was.  Wouldn't matter anyway, as their questions are worded to get the results the money provider wants.  Either that, or they ask folks that they already know will give the answers they want.

Roger

[magooch]

I know I'm a broken record, but the polls don't matter and neither do the actual ballots.  It's who counts the votes.  Until that gets fixed--if ever--the commies (Dummycratics) will win.

[DDZ]

Actually I don't believe voting matters anymore either.

[Dee]

Well, I'll keep voting until I know for sure.

[Tommyt]

Actually I don't believe voting matters anymore either.

   

   I’m right on the edge of believing this, but as Dee said I’ll vote till I’m completely sure.

Which may be the next Presidential vote

[DDZ]

Im going to keep voting, because its the only peaceful means of changing anything. Although I have little faith in it being fair. I pretty much know its not going to be fair. The presidential election was stolen for a Marxist with dementia, and nothing really has been done to stop fraud the next time. Maybe local voting in small communities is somewhat fair, but voting for state senators and president are rigged.
In Pa for instance there were 202,000 more ballots than there were voters, yet the vote was still certified. That was just one means of the extensive cheating that went on in the swing states. How is anyone supposed to have faith in thinking their vote counts? There are still drop boxes, ballot harvesting, etc..

[magooch]

I didn't say I wasn't going to vote.  That would be giving in to the criminal element that has defrauded our system and I don't want to concede even one vote to these cheating schemers.  This time around if the Dummycratics don't make some big changes--like getting a candidate that at least has a measurable IQ--well maybe, just maybe all their cheating will go for naught. 

[ironglow]

So far, it looks like the computers are being hacked again..  Computers should never have been introduced into the vote.  The most honest way would be back to paper ballots.

  It as gone too far for many to trust any election today.

[Lloyd Smale]

i dont either. just look at va. they about claimed victory in both houses and lost both

I don't have any faith in the polls.

[Dixie-Dude]

Atlanta's population was on decline, then all of a sudden it rose dramatically right before 2020, then after 2020 it dropped again like a rock.  This was from California liberals moving to Atlanta, voting in the 2020 election, then moving back.  At least they rented apartments or bought homes to claim residency to vote.  They did that also in North Carolina in a few previous elections around Charlotte and the Raleigh area.  This is how Obama carried North Carolina back in 2012.  I fear this is going to happen to Texas.  Temporary moves just to vote.  In North Carolina you had to live in the state 1 year before being elegible to vote.  A federal judge struck that down. 

Liberals will cheat any way they can.  They want to destroy America and make it a "socialist paradise" where eveyone is equally poor and you won't own anything and be happy. 

My brother lived in Eastern Oregon where it is solid red.  His wife's cousin was the mayor of the largest town.  There were Trump signs everywhere in 2020, never saw a Biden sign.  He did heating and AC so he drove around a lot.  The county was carried by Biden by about 200 votes, and more people voted there than were registered.  Over 110% turn out.  Hmmm.  Never investigated like most areas of America.  You know it is treason to question an election that democrats win.  Hmm, what did democrats do in 2000 with Al Gore, questioned the results and took it to the Supreme Court.  Republicans and Independents can't question the results you know. 

[ironglow]

  Dixie Dude...  I don't think it is so much population moving..especially in the small city in Oregon.  Frankly, I am forced to believe that the computerized votinhg has been rigged.

  Before the computerized system was hatched up, I don't recall anyone clamoring for this new computerized voting.  No, it was spung upon us !
    Keep in mind, Pres Trump is continually calling for paper balllots....He obviously has his reasons too.

   Keep in mind..at least I have, the crazy voting anomalys when Obama was 'elected'.  In some cities, not a single vote for Romney, came from large
  sections of the city.   Not one vote !

  https://www.cbsnews.com/news/romney-earned-zero-votes-in-some-urban-precincts/

   Yes, these areas are presented as "inner city" precincts...but we all know that no given voting block votes 100% in any direction.

  Yet we are expected to believe that in a population as large as some western states.. NOT ONE VOTE could be found for the Republican candidate!

    You can believe what you wish,.  As for me..I was born on a Friday..but lt wasn't LAST Friday !

[darkgael]

Im going to keep voting, because its the only peaceful means of changing anything. Although I have little faith in it being fair. I pretty much know its not going to be fair. The presidential election was stolen for a Marxist with dementia, and nothing really has been done to stop fraud the next time. Maybe local voting in small communities is somewhat fair, but voting for state senators and president are rigged.
In Pa for instance there were 202,000 more ballots than there were voters, yet the vote was still certified. That was just one means of the extensive cheating that went on in the swing states. How is anyone supposed to have faith in thinking their vote counts? There are still drop boxes, ballot harvesting, etc..

I googled that idea....more votes than voters.
in fact

A key Republican state lawmaker has made a rare concession about a 2020 election fraud claim.

Rep. Seth Grove (R-York), who chairs the House State Government committee, said an allegation that more votes were cast in Pennsylvania than there were registered voters is wrong.

“After the hearing in Gettysburg, where they said there were…more ballots than voters: that was not factual information,” Grove told reporters following a speech at an event in Harrisburg Monday.

https://www.witf.org/2022/08/22/pa-gop-state-lawmaker-says-a-key-2020-election-fraud-claim-was-not-factual/

Despite that, the idea continues to live. is this an example of repetition giving creedence to an incorrect idea? The more often an idea is repeated, the more people will accept it as true. Mr. Trump said it, Marjorie Greene said it, it was repeated here (and doubtless other places). Does that make it true?
According to Rep. Grove, No, it does not.

[DDZ]

Im going to keep voting, because its the only peaceful means of changing anything. Although I have little faith in it being fair. I pretty much know its not going to be fair. The presidential election was stolen for a Marxist with dementia, and nothing really has been done to stop fraud the next time. Maybe local voting in small communities is somewhat fair, but voting for state senators and president are rigged.
In Pa for instance there were 202,000 more ballots than there were voters, yet the vote was still certified. That was just one means of the extensive cheating that went on in the swing states. How is anyone supposed to have faith in thinking their vote counts? There are still drop boxes, ballot harvesting, etc..

I googled that idea....more votes than voters.
in fact

A key Republican state lawmaker has made a rare concession about a 2020 election fraud claim.

Rep. Seth Grove (R-York), who chairs the House State Government committee, said an allegation that more votes were cast in Pennsylvania than there were registered voters is wrong.

“After the hearing in Gettysburg, where they said there were…more ballots than voters: that was not factual information,” Grove told reporters following a speech at an event in Harrisburg Monday.

https://www.witf.org/2022/08/22/pa-gop-state-lawmaker-says-a-key-2020-election-fraud-claim-was-not-factual/

Despite that, the idea continues to live. is this an example of repetition giving creedence to an incorrect idea? The more often an idea is repeated, the more people will accept it as true. Mr. Trump said it, Marjorie Greene said it, it was repeated here (and doubtless other places). Does that make it true?
According to Rep. Grove, No, it does not.

Yeah okay, because some potentially paid off Republican law maker said it. It therefor must be true. I don't believe it because it has been stated a number of times. I believe it because I know there was voting fraud in Pa and other states favoring the guy who supposidly got 81 million votes.  What do you believe? Do you actually believe that the Biden regime won fair and square?

[Dixie-Dude]

More voters voted than were registered in a few Alabama counties a few years ago, until the state legislature passed a bill to purge all state voting lists, and have everyone re-register to vote.  I remember that around 30,000 dead people were still voting.  Now we have voter ID, and your ID has to have your correct address to vote.  So we use drivers license and a non-driver can get a voter ID that looks like a drivers license FREE at all local DMV's.  Stopped a lot of fraud and illegal voting. 

It is a fact that Atlanta's (not Alanta metro area), but inside the city limits of Atlanta, population spiked in 2020, then went back down. 

My brother lived in a county in Oregon that has mail in ballots.  Many people got more than one ballot if they moved recently especially, even from one part of town to the other.  My brother said his wife's cousin said, Republicans have never won a statewide election since they started the mail in ballots.  The mail in ballots go to whoever lives at a particular address even if they are illegals. 

I also saw in TV where an Atlanta worker took ballots out of brief cases and ran them through the counting machine two or three times, this was filmed after the other workers went home. 

Come on, you know there was widespread cheating by Democrats as well a conservative suppression on FB, Twitter, etc, and that has been reported in the news, which is why Elon Musk bought Twitter.  Information wasn't getting out about Joe and Hunter Biden's bribe taking for one.  Joe's flip flop voting record over his lifetime, even George Wallace supported Biden back in the 70's and early 80's. 

NY Times is one of the most liberal rags in America.  They tell a lot of lies in headlines that have to be retracted on page 76.  My liberal BIL gets NY Times.  I've seen his papers. 

[ironglow]

       The honest side lost Virginia by 2,000 votes across the state.  If there were just 2001 right thinkers across all Virginia that stayed home,
   who instead, went down to vote..the results may have been far different...,

   How often was this repeated across the country especially in local elections?  Of course, the Repugnicans muist get rid of Rona Romney McDaniels, or perhaps they should not plan on winning any more elections..

[gypsyman]

 When I voted last Tuesday, a pleasant change. They always checked drivers license to make sure you were who you said you are. They handed me a paper ballot, about 4'' wide and a foot long. They showed me how to load it in the voting machine, touch screen, and vote. When I was done, the paper came back out so I could verify my vote. Walked it over to a container, dropped it in. Now, what happened after the polls closed--??? But the vote here in Ohio went pretty much the way I figured it would.

[magooch]

Well, in any case we will get some idea next year just how corrupt the voting system--at least on national election is.  If Biden runs and wins, I don't know what else it would take to prove that our system was and is hopeless.  The only other conclusion would be that we are--as a nation--STUPID!!! 

[mcbammer]

Well, in any case we will get some idea next year just how corrupt the voting system--at least on national election is.  If Biden runs and wins, I don't know what else it would take to prove that our system was and is hopeless.  The only other conclusion would be that we are--as a nation--STUPID!!!

   Problem is 44 states can hold honest elections ,as we saw it only take 6  states with corrupt voting officials    to turn the election .

[Dixie-Dude]

I mentioned people moving to Atlanta from California, but not in the small town of Oregon.  In Oregon it was excessive mail in ballots. 

[ironglow]

When I voted last Tuesday, a pleasant change. They always checked drivers license to make sure you were who you said you are. They handed me a paper ballot, about 4'' wide and a foot long. They showed me how to load it in the voting machine, touch screen, and vote. When I was done, the paper came back out so I could verify my vote. Walked it over to a container, dropped it in. Now, w individualhat happened after the polls closed--??? But the vote here in Ohio went pretty much the way I figured it would.

   Problem here IMO... they are still processing the individual votes through a computer, and I just don't trust computers, since we hear almost daily,
     about some very sophisticated systems that have been hacked.

 Smartmatics is a system that has been used in past, but lefties say tha George Soros doesn't own Smartmatics..Lord Malloch Brown does.

  ..But here is the hook...   Soros doesn't have to own Smartmatics, so long as he already "owns" the man who owns Smartmatics.

   From Business Insider:

   "Smartmatic is owned by Lord Mark Malloch-Brown. He is connected to Soros through the Open Society Foundation, an organization that gives grants to civil society organizations around the world. Malloch-Brown serves on the Open Society Global Board. Smartmatic says on its website, "George Soros does not have and has never had any ownership stake in Smartmatic."

   The "Open Society Foundation" is of course, Soros' baby...

[DDZ]

There is a profound reason democrats fight tooth and nail against voter ID laws. Its so they can rig and cheat the system.  In 2020 it wasn't just one method they used to get our counterfeit president in place. Its very clear there was voter fraud. What troubles me most is that those that vote for democrats, are perfectly fine with Biden getting in the White House. No matter how he got there. All they do is just deny any cheating. The same people are clapping their hands because of the bogus charges against Trump.   

[ironglow]

There is a profound reason democrats fight tooth and nail against voter ID laws. Its so they can rig and cheat the system.  In 2020 it wasn't just one method they used to get our counterfeit president in place. Its very clear there was voter fraud. What troubles me most is that those that vote for democrats, are perfectly fine with Biden getting in the White House. No matter how he got there. All they do is just deny any cheating. The same people are clapping their hands because of the bogus charges against Trump.   

  Spot ion DDZ;  I perhaps go even a bit further, assessing simply by observation..

  MY OPINION ONLY>>>>   There are as you know, just 2 spiritual forces in all of creation...the spirit of God and the spirit of Satan.  IMO.. the malevolent spirit shows
   up in it's practitioners .

  In today's world we see their habits of hate and destruction in many facets of life and actions.  In primitive societies they hate their neighbor so
    much that they want to kill them, behead them, foster rape and pain..and even torture and kill babies...

   In more advanced societies, they are a bit more subtle, opting for a medical "final solution" for many infants, pressing a philosophy that
    offers little children a "choice" of being mutilated..in their tender years..and that without recourse..

  Another goal of the Satan led.. rob us of our God-given constitutional rights..Satan wants willing slaves.

    One only need ask themselves.."Would God promote rape and infanticide?  Doe He preach "hate thy neighbor"?

        To either of these groups, it is apparent that thay do not mind lying broadly, to their "enemy", God's people..and will do so whenever convenient.  I think we have all witnessed it.

   
You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is a liar and the father of lies."  (John 8:44)

[Tommyt]

 The Democrats have perfected ballot cheating and when they get exposed they just Lie their way out
Or completely ignore it

 2024 will show who’s who imho

[DDZ]

A lot of the republicans know there was, and is cheating. A large majority of them say and do nothing to stop it. In fact in Pa. the republican house voted for many of the cheating methods the democrats improvised. Drop boxes, ballet harvesting, no voter ID, no investigating into the numerous allegations of cheating, etc... Dont forget many of the republicans hated Trump, and wanted him gone, because he was going to expose their corruption. The republican party likes to talk about upholding the law, and doing things that republican's should do, but in the end they love government intervention, power, and control. Every bit as much as the democrats do.