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Why does the current US government ignore the Constitution?
« on: November 28, 2023, 03:05:01 AM »
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  It appear more clearly every day that John Adams was totally correct..

  John Adams said;  “Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” 
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Re: Why does the current US government ignore the Constitution?
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2023, 05:07:38 AM »
They need to start ignoring better if they hope to get anywhere close to the records set by the former US government!

First president indicted
Four separate prosecutions
91 criminal counts overall

Good luck to them!

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Re: Why does the current US government ignore the Constitution?
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2023, 06:00:01 AM »
They need to start ignoring better if they hope to get anywhere close to the records set by the former US government!

First president indicted
Four separate prosecutions
91 criminal counts overall

Good luck to them!

   Now, you really know better than that !  Remember how he was accused of a Russian collusion, Muller investigation and etc..
   thewre even was a "bullet-proof Russian dossier"!

   ...But who, truly were the liars..in the end?  If he were as greedy as his detractors, he would not have turned down his presidential wages.

       Let's see Biden, Pelosi, Schiff, Schumer and Harris turn down their wages! ..And don't tell me thay can't afford it !
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Re: Why does the current US government ignore the Constitution?
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2023, 11:32:15 AM »
They need to start ignoring better if they hope to get anywhere close to the records set by the former US government!

First president indicted
Four separate prosecutions
91 criminal counts overall

Good luck to them!

   Now, you really know better than that !  Remember how he was accused of a Russian collusion, Muller investigation and etc..
   thewre even was a "bullet-proof Russian dossier"!

   ...But who, truly were the liars..in the end?  If he were as greedy as his detractors, he would not have turned down his presidential wages.

       Let's see Biden, Pelosi, Schiff, Schumer and Harris turn down their wages! ..And don't tell me thay can't afford it !

Truth don't matter to ignorant people, their minds are clouded because of their hatred of Trump.
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Re: Why does the current US government ignore the Constitution?
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2023, 11:53:57 AM »
“First president indicted Four separate prosecutions 91 criminal counts overall.”

Reading your posts I actually thought at once you were a liberal. After this one, I’m sure you’re just on this site having a little fun, trying to rile people. Nobody, I mean nobody that could put two sentences together could be that stupid. Prove me wrong.
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Re: Why does the current US government ignore the Constitution?
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2023, 12:22:42 PM »
I have never in my life seen so much hatred for a president or former president.  But, they fear Trump, in a second term would have found out how crooked the deep state and democrats were and exposed them and they would have been prosecuted.  They have done far worse.  The Clintons and their crooked foundation, Bidens payback from the Chinese, Obama's socialist/communist past and upbringing.  The last honest Democrat was Carter and he wasn't a good president as he was a micro manager and took forever to get a bill passed as he had to read the whole bill.  That was good, but he should have trusted his staff to take care of details. 

Anyway, Trump told it like it is and was.  They didn't like that.  He called a crook a crook, and they were.  He was also a business man, and could run the government like a business and had America booming before the China virus put a halt to everything. 

Financially, I did better under Reagan and Trump than I did under any other president.  Clinton would have been ok, but the Free Trade Agreements stripped America of it's industrial manufacturing might, and sent it to China and other overseas nations thus leading to many without health insurance or a lower middle class wage.  Some people are either too young to remember anything or they work for the government in one way or the other.  Most people still work in the private sector, so it must not be hamstrung to be able to pay taxes to pay the government jobs.  The more private sector jobs, the more tax money at lower rates can be collected to pay for the government.  The left thinks there is a finite pie to share and spread around.  This is not true if the private sector grows the pie larger, there is more pie that way. 
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Re: Why does the current US government ignore the Constitution?
« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2023, 02:29:01 PM »
They need to start ignoring better if they hope to get anywhere close to the records set by the former US government!

First president indicted
Four separate prosecutions
91 criminal counts overall

Good luck to them!
   Not records set by the former president...but records set by the current president..

  So far he has recorded more legal attacks against his predecessor, than any president America ever did.  We suffered throughn the Teapot Dome a
   nd Tamany Hall corruption and never had anyone found the need to select out of the entire country, 2 or 3 reliable kangaroo court jurisdictions
  to attempt a legal cpoup against a former president.

  Tin pot dictators do that kind of corruption, not honest people.   

   https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/2/11/nicaragua-sentences-seven-opposition-figures-to-prison

   https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/venezuela-opposition-leader-sentenced-8-years-prison-lawyer-2022-08-04/

  https://www.businessinsider.com/xi-jinping-successor-sun-zhengcai-sentenced-to-life-in-prison-2018-5

   Do you HONESTLY believe all those prisoners were 'guilty as charged' ?  No matter...that's just what Communist dictators do !
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Re: Why does the current US government ignore the Constitution?
« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2023, 01:36:32 AM »
“First president indicted Four separate prosecutions 91 criminal counts overall.”

Reading your posts I actually thought at once you were a liberal. After this one, I’m sure you’re just on this site having a little fun, trying to rile people. Nobody, I mean nobody that could put two sentences together could be that stupid. Prove me wrong.

Don't be surprised. Just watch how many people vote for the same Marxists that are attempting to put this country to ruin. 
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Re: Why does the current US government ignore the Constitution?
« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2023, 01:40:12 AM »
They need to start ignoring better if they hope to get anywhere close to the records set by the former US government!

First president indicted
Four separate prosecutions
91 criminal counts overall

Good luck to them!

They need to start ignoring better if they hope to get anywhere close to the records set by the former US government!

First president indicted
Four separate prosecutions
91 criminal counts overall

Good luck to them!

   Now, you really know better than that !  Remember how he was accused of a Russian collusion, Muller investigation and etc..
   thewre even was a "bullet-proof Russian dossier"!

   ...But who, truly were the liars..in the end?  If he were as greedy as his detractors, he would not have turned down his presidential wages.

       Let's see Biden, Pelosi, Schiff, Schumer and Harris turn down their wages! ..And don't tell me thay can't afford it !

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Re: Why does the current US government ignore the Constitution?
« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2023, 02:27:17 AM »
 Their ignoring the Constitution because they can. Nobody is holding them accountable. People keep voting voting them back in, and after 2/3 terms they do what they want, not what the people that voted for them want. Been going on for decade's.
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Re: Why does the current US government ignore the Constitution?
« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2023, 02:38:35 AM »
Their ignoring the Constitution because they can. Nobody is holding them accountable. People keep voting voting them back in, and after 2/3 terms they do what they want, not what the people that voted for them want. Been going on for decade's.

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Re: Why does the current US government ignore the Constitution?
« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2023, 03:36:20 PM »
+ 2......It ain't nothing new IG!
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Re: Why does the current US government ignore the Constitution?
« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2023, 01:59:24 AM »
I have to admit that I got lost in the turmoil of the posts above. I wa looking for references...specifics.....as the ignoring the Constitution idea.
Did not see any. So...for clarification not argument....what specific parts of the Constitution are being ignored?

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Re: Why does the current US government ignore the Constitution?
« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2023, 02:12:44 AM »
I have to admit that I got lost in the turmoil of the posts above. I wa looking for references...specifics.....as the ignoring the Constitution idea.
Did not see any. So...for clarification not argument....what specific parts of the Constitution are being ignored?

Are u serious dg?
How about the endless government  ordered censorship of conservatives on social media? How about the censorship of Trump by the court system controlled by the doj?
How about the withholding of January 6 video by the government?


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Re: Why does the current US government ignore the Constitution?
« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2023, 02:44:25 AM »
I have to admit that I got lost in the turmoil of the posts above. I wa looking for references...specifics.....as the ignoring the Constitution idea.
Did not see any. So...for clarification not argument....what specific parts of the Constitution are being ignored?

How about Article IV section 4: Its known as the Guarantee clause. Which stabilizes the union, and is the source of federal power for national defense. 
“The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.”

Would you say there is not an invasion at our southern border or northern border? Invasion does not mean a military invasion.  Do you think there is domestic violence happening because of the invasion?  A Republician form of government means a government following the rule of law.  Would you say the Biden administration has been following the rule of law?
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Re: Why does the current US government ignore the Constitution?
« Reply #15 on: November 30, 2023, 02:50:43 AM »
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  Plus, the open border..forced closing of interstate travel, disobeying their own Hippa laws, forcing public to wear masks, spending taxpayer's funds
  assisting illegal aliens, weaponizing the IRS, FBI and Justice Dept..

  THeir direct efforts AGAINST the second amendment..efforts to curtail first amendment, speech, church, and curtailing heretofore, free choices..

    How are those for starters?  ..Need more?
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Re: Why does the current US government ignore the Constitution?
« Reply #16 on: November 30, 2023, 08:56:21 AM »
This thread should have had two posts.
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Re: Why does the current US government ignore the Constitution?
« Reply #17 on: November 30, 2023, 09:02:50 AM »
They need to start ignoring better if they hope to get anywhere close to the records set by the former US government!

First president indicted
Four separate prosecutions
91 criminal counts overall

Good luck to them!

  Sure, and "hanging Judge Parker" had them convicted, before they wven entered the court house..  The gallows ready and waiting..
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Re: Why does the current US government ignore the Constitution?
« Reply #18 on: November 30, 2023, 12:02:49 PM »
In some peoples minds, the Biden administration using the justice department to take down a political opponent is completely legal. 
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Re: Why does the current US government ignore the Constitution?
« Reply #19 on: November 30, 2023, 08:56:11 PM »
Thank you all for the clarifications.

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Re: Why does the current US government ignore the Constitution?
« Reply #20 on: December 02, 2023, 06:53:47 AM »
How about the continuous assault on the 2nd amendment?  People owned cannons in the 1800's as well as Gatlin guns.  Even Tommy guns during the 1920's as well as BAR's. 

The left is trying to shut down Elon Musk, who advocates Free Speech, buy pushing advertisers to pull out of X formally Twitter.  He is suing "Media Matters" a George Soros funded fare left group for lying about him which caused advertisers to pull out.  Hope he wins enough in damages to put Media Matters out of business.  Government isn't supporting Musk in this. 

Musk owns SpaceX, which is NASA's only way to get men into space from America right now.  They are also launching spy satellites for the military.  Now so called environmentalists are suing the FAA to keep him from launching his rockets, putting up thousands of satellites for communication, spying, humans to the space station.  They, in California, stopped him from mining lithium, so he is mining it in Nevada to make batteries for his cars and industrial batteries for back up for power systems as well as homes.  The left can't have it both ways, wanting to go alternative energy yet shut down Musk, because he allowed Trump and Babylon Bee back on X (Twitter).  This is trying to stop free speech. 

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Re: Why does the current US government ignore the Constitution?
« Reply #21 on: December 02, 2023, 08:44:58 AM »
How about them taking slavery away and giving women the right to vote. Giant assaults on our Constitutional freedoms :(

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Re: Why does the current US government ignore the Constitution?
« Reply #22 on: December 02, 2023, 10:30:06 AM »
How about them taking slavery away and giving women the right to vote. Giant assaults on our Constitutional freedoms :(
There was nothing in the Constitution forcing slavery on the states; a National Amendment to the Constitution gave women an Constitutional Right to vote.
So what is your point?

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Re: Why does the current US government ignore the Constitution?
« Reply #23 on: December 02, 2023, 10:41:09 AM »
How about them taking slavery away and giving women the right to vote. Giant assaults on our Constitutional freedoms :(
There was nothing in the Constitution forcing slavery on the states; a National Amendment to the Constitution gave women an Constitutional Right to vote.
So what is your point?



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Re: Why does the current US government ignore the Constitution?
« Reply #24 on: December 02, 2023, 11:04:05 AM »
 Somebody wants to pull it up, interesting interview. Watters had Sammy ''the bull' Gravano on his show. Said what is going on in government now makes his days working for the mafia look like they were choir boys. Actually said the streets were safer when the mob was running things. Didn't want the public hurt. Pretty sad that a guy that spent 18 years in prison working for the mob considers our government more corrupt.
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Re: Why does the current US government ignore the Constitution?
« Reply #25 on: December 02, 2023, 11:35:14 AM »
How about them taking slavery away and giving women the right to vote. Giant assaults on our Constitutional freedoms :(

  Oh yes; ...and it was the REPUBLICANS who freed the slaves...and MEN who passed the 19th amendment, givng women the right to vote.

   Doesn't that get your panties in a bunch !
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Re: Why does the current US government ignore the Constitution?
« Reply #26 on: December 02, 2023, 03:06:27 PM »
How about them taking slavery away and giving women the right to vote. Giant assaults on our Constitutional freedoms :(

  Oh yes; ...and it was the REPUBLICANS who freed the slaves...and MEN who passed the 19th amendment, givng women the right to vote.

   Doesn't that get your panties in a bunch !

 IG I respect most everything you say and appreciate all you post helping keep GBORL moving, I just think you should ignore this "fool troll" who has nothing good for this page at all
Other than pollute the pot, I’ve always felt if ignored enough they will go


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Re: Why does the current US government ignore the Constitution?
« Reply #27 on: December 02, 2023, 05:09:04 PM »
It was Republicans in the early 60's who passed the civil rights laws.  It was Republicans who fought against the Democrat KKK in the late 1800's and early 1900's.  It was Republicans along with Kennedy who kept us out of Vietnam. 

Democrats do not want the poor and minorities to succeed, thus keeping them on the Welfare Plantation so they can get their votes. 

A Democrat president pushed the Free Trade Agreements which stripped us of our industry and it was Democrats therefore who created the "health care crisis" with no industry to provide health care for middle class blue collar workers.  It was Democrats under Johnson who created the Welfare plantation and $4 trillion later we still have the same percentage in poverty.  So it didn't and ain't working.  Cut it out. 
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Re: Why does the current US government ignore the Constitution?
« Reply #28 on: December 02, 2023, 05:17:31 PM »
How about them taking slavery away and giving women the right to vote. Giant assaults on our Constitutional freedoms :(

  Oh yes; ...and it was the REPUBLICANS who freed the slaves...and MEN who passed the 19th amendment, givng women the right to vote.

   Doesn't that get your panties in a bunch !

 IG I respect most everything you say and appreciate all you post helping keep GBORL moving, I just think you should ignore this "fool troll" who has nothing good for this page at all
Other than pollute the pot, I’ve always felt if ignored enough they will go


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  Tommy, first off..thanks for the encouraging words.  ..But to explain, there are perhaps 4 or 5 trolls on active duty here, and several reasons
  why I take them under advisement, now and then.

  1) Some questions or statements are to inform the troll, but I realize they will rarely listen..but still one may now and then, if they harbor any
    critical thinking patterns.

  2)  Almost any propaganda they put forth is not at all accurate, so I like to correct their claims, so others who perhaps have not inquired into
   the given subject will gain some clarity, or find out where to gather facts to refute other leftists they may encounter daily.  Some  who do not
    engage the trolls, may have cogent information that myself or others could utilize in a similar situation.

  3) Since we have 4 or 5 trolls here, and yes, some rarely or never venture into the guns/hunting forums.   ..But no matter, I think most
  here would not like the forums they do participate in, to become outright echo chambers. 

  4) I encourage any who have a firm grasp of a subject brought up by a troll.. to take them on , so others can see their mistake, and refute the
   lefties they may encounter elsewhere.


  Hope that clarifies...
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Re: Why does the current US government ignore the Constitution?
« Reply #29 on: December 02, 2023, 05:31:18 PM »
Don't feed the trolls and they will eventually lose interest.
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