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More than 130,000 Allied troops landed at Normandy as part of D-Day, but only one of them was the son of a former U.S. President: Theodore Roosevelt Jr., who also held the distinction of being the oldest soldier to deploy. He was born on September 13, 1887, making the brigadier general 56 years old when he asked to land with the first wave. After two verbal requests were denied, Roosevelt submitted a written petition, in which he wrote, “I personally know both officers and men of these advance units and believe that it will steady them to know that I am with them.”

High command finally relented, and Roosevelt landed on Utah Beach equipped with his walking cane and service pistol on June 6, 1944. Later, soldiers from his unit indeed credited his “calm and humorous demeanor” with helping them push through. Roosevelt was already a decorated veteran at this point, having served with distinction in World War I, but his military career was cut short when he suffered a fatal heart attack barely a month after D-Day.

 General George Patton hailed him as one of the bravest men he ever knew, and Roosevelt received a posthumous Medal of Honor on September 21, 1944. His son Quentin Roosevelt II stormed Omaha Beach on D-Day, making them the only father-son duo to take part in the Normandy landings.


This was a topic on a history site headlines today, so I though I would paste it here.

At the same time:
I just finished the book Lindbergh vs Roosevelt.

Teddy's relatives apparently were bottom of the bowl  genes.
F. Roosevelt makes Biden look like an incompetent amateur at trying to destroy the U.S. Constitution.

I cannot even give a good abstract here of how Roosevelt hated and used, FULLY, his power to destroy Lindbergh and Conservatives. (including persons in his own party, and there were some , who did not do as he said).

Much of what the Left has been done to Trump is a redo, same crap , different pile, of what Roosevelt did to Lindbergh,  the country, and those who backed Lindbergh.
Even though we got much fuller history when I was in high school, we did not know  how much of a scum bag the British were before WW II trying to force the U.S. into WW II, with Roosevelt's full help.
Hitler did not want to go to war with the U.S. and did not do so even though Roosevelt was actually attacking German submariines hoping that would provoke Hitler to declare war against the U.S.

It is still a mystery as to why Hitler declared war against the U.S. after Japan attacked , as had he not, Roosevelt did not have the power to go to war against Germany.
The vast majority of U.S. citizens , were fully against sending soldiers to war against Germany.
Hitler had been asking Japan to attack Russia, not the U.S.,  which would have given Russia a two front war.

Wendell Willkie, who ran against Roosevelt for his third term, was actually a Democrat who had converted to a Rep. only months before the election.
The book does not say how he managed to snooker the Rep. Party, but his being a Rep. was a total scam and he backed every thing Roosevelt stood for, including trying to force the U.S. into WW II.
The very first RINO.
 
I recommend reading the book -- a LOT of fine print details, kind of like the begot, begot , parts of the Bible but it spells out fully who were Satan's (Roosevelt) minions and who fought them.

It lists in detail, how Roosevelt made the Depression worse, not better, and that he wanted into WW II, long before the Japanese attacked,  as he knew that would break the U.S out of the depression and make him look better.

Lindbergh being said to be anti-semitic and favouring Nazis, is TOTALLY the creation of Roosevelt and the parts of the major press that backed Roosevelt regardless of knowing he was lying.
I may start reading more books about real people and the real world. >:(

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Re: Teddy Roosevelt’s son was the oldest soldier to fight on D-Day.
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2024, 03:24:14 AM »
“I may start reading more books about real people and the real world”.

Absolutely, that’s all I read. I don’t have enough time to read as it is, no sense in reading fantasy and fabrication. I have a hard time getting away from that in the news anymore.

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« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2024, 06:40:12 AM »
And a few short weeks later, Roosevelt died of a heart attack.
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« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2024, 04:39:27 AM »
  Unquestionably a man of courage and determination, dying of a heart attack was not in his plans.  Quite a distinction to be the oldest man to deploy in
 France on D-day.

   Generals often serve to a more advanced age..  Since it takes years to attain the grade, they must feel obligated to use it for some years..  ;) ;D

   Ssome general officers, who were involved in WW2, who were older than he; ....were  Gen Douglas MacArthur, born 1880, Gen George S. Patton, born 1885, Gen Hap Arnold, born 1886, and Gen "Wild Bill" Donovan (head of OSS) born, 1883.  There are far more, but those are a sample.

   Though he certainly was courageous and a fine leader, I do question the Medal of Honor, when he died of a heart attack in his headquarters truck.

  ...But then, when the Congressional Medal of Honor was first created (1861/1862), congress was more liberal in bestowing it, tightening up the restrictions  later on.  The Civil War saw a plethora of MOHs being handed out.  Of the 3525 recipients all tolled, 1523 were handed out during the Civil War..

  Some say now, that it is too hard to qualify.
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« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2024, 04:36:41 PM »
 Proper upbringing. Proves, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
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« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2024, 04:55:43 PM »
Proper upbringing. Proves, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

      True; he did serve right up front, something he was not required to do, and which only a select general officers did !

  Another General officer's death that is remarkable, was Gen Walton Walker, whose death paralleled that of Gen Patton.  He was killed in his jeep in a road accident.

  Gen Walker was born in Belton, TX ...and attended VMI.  Ironically both his grandfaters served as officers in the Confederate army.
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« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2024, 04:57:29 PM »
Proper upbringing. Proves, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

His daddy was a die hard socialist.
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« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2024, 01:03:55 AM »
Proper upbringing. Proves, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

His daddy was a die hard socialist.
Teddy Roosevelt a socialist?
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Practical equality of opportunity for all citizens, when we achieve it, will have two great results. First, every man will have a fair chance to make of himself all that in him lies; to reach the highest point to which his capacities, unassisted by special privilege of his own and unhampered by the special privilege of others, can carry him, and to get for himself and his family substantially what he has earned. Second, equality of opportunity means that the commonwealth will get from every citizen the highest service of which he is capable. No man who carries the burden of the special privileges of another can give to the commonwealth that service to which it is fairly entitled.
That does not sound like socialism to me. Marx' oft quoted idea "from each according to his ability to each according to his need' is entirely different.

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« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2024, 01:31:23 AM »
  From DG; 
   " That does not sound like socialism to me. Marx' oft quoted idea "from each according to his ability to each according to his need' is entirely different."
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

  Isn't it interesting, how the commies, once they have gained power, immediately proceed to ignore their above slogan ! ... Follow the bouncing
   ball..Cuba. Russia, China, North Korea, Venezuela etc, etc.

  They set up an oligharchy..robbing so much from the people, that in many cases, the people are starving..

  Venezuela due toiit's oil abundance, was once the wealthiest country in South America.  Then the commies (Maduro) took over, and a few million in ghis paycheck wasn't enough..he had to rob the people of more billions.

   After he had robbed them bad enough, and brought on a Biden style inflation, they had not enough money to buy adequate food, so the average Venezuelan lost an estimated 19  to 24
   pounds in 1917. 

      https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/venezuela-weight-loss-average-19lb-pounds-food-shortages-economic-crisis-a7595081.html

   https://rcg.org/realtruth/news/180301-003.html
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« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2024, 02:03:47 AM »
Lotta truth there. Communism does not work. It never has. People who espouse it are fools.

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« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2024, 02:23:19 AM »
  Problem with communism...the citizen is expected to implicitly and totally trust the government... which like any government, is laced through with
  fallen, imperfect people.
 
  That is what happens, when people decide to worship Gov instead of God..  Too many today just don't know better..
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« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2024, 05:30:45 AM »
Proper upbringing. Proves, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

His daddy was a die hard socialist.
Teddy Roosevelt a socialist?


AND A WHITE SUPREMACIST!

https://www.history.com/topics/us-presidents/theodore-roosevelt
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« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2024, 04:49:01 PM »
Lotta truth there. Communism does not work. It never has. People who espouse it are fools.
Neither do democracy's. Which is why our founding fathers set this country up as a constitutional republic. But, we have morphed into a democracy. Which is why we're having the problems we have!
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« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2024, 12:08:07 PM »
..Still, some continue to refer to the US as a "democracy".  I guess it is just politicians who wish it were..to accept such would be a BIG mistake.
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« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2024, 03:15:31 PM »
About white supremacy. it may help us to understand that white supremacy for Roosevelt was an extension of the practise of noblesse oblige as opposed to the darker more violent tendencies at the heart of the belief nowadays.

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« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2024, 04:55:43 PM »
His belief on race was shared by many of his time... and by many today of all creeds for their own race. I don’t know enough about teddy to defend or disagree with him. Just enough to make a fool of myself.

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« Reply #16 on: January 14, 2024, 02:04:53 AM »
 I have in recent years (since 1960) only met one "white supremacist", of which I have no doubt..  As DG said, "white supremacy" can mean different things to different people.

  Just for kicks and giggles, I Googled for images of "white supremacist".  Right off, I hgot a page full of those who ALAMY seems to consider to be
    white supremacists. 

  Now, I realize that possibly ALAMY may bne populated by urban, avant garde types, but I still do not see what about half of their photos have to do
  with "white supremacy"..   

  Here, take a look:   https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo/white-supremacist.html?page=2&sortBy=relevant

  Actually, there are page after page of such photos..even photos of presidents Biden and Trump..are they supposed to be WS's ?

  Some folks don't need much to make accusations..
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« Reply #17 on: January 14, 2024, 02:35:38 AM »
Making excuses for an American one likes has never occurred to me. Teddy Roosevelt believed that the white Caucasian was superior to the black. He said  it  himself. That was white supremacy 200 years ago, 20 years ago, 2 years ago, and 2 hours ago.
The same type of people that ignore Roosevelt's own words, did the same with Abraham Lincoln. They want to feel good about their choice of dog.
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« Reply #18 on: January 14, 2024, 03:00:02 AM »
Making excuses for an American one likes has never occurred to me. Teddy Roosevelt believed that the white Caucasian was superior to the black. He said  it  himself. That was white supremacy 200 years ago, 20 years ago, 2 years ago, and 2 hours ago.
The same type of people that ignore Roosevelt's own words, did the same with Abraham Lincoln. They want to feel good about their choice of dog.
Trying to put lipstick on pig, is not gonna change the fact that its still a pig. ::)

  There is no way one can or should deny that at one time, racism ran deep within some people/groups here in the USA !

 Yes...and at one time trhere were great five masted sailing ships, stem engined farm tractors and teams of Oxen hauling freight on a regular basis !

  ...Yet I suspect that "supremacists' are nearly as rare today,  as those instances mentioned above, at least so far as I see it !

   One political party was so deeply divided by racism, that half the party sponsored a Klan march at their national convention.. they called it a
    "Klanbake".

  https://thefederalistpapers.org/us/the-1924-klanbake-dem-convention-sheds-light-on-democratic-party-history/


   So, how does one recognize racism?  I suspect by any overt hatred that is shown for another "race'..

  Now days the left accuses Christian patriots, Tea Parties, firm Catholics, Constitutionalists and other traditional American groups of being "hate"
  groups.

  So I am obligated to ask.. Do those groups exhibit more hatred than BLM, Antifa or the bogus, "1619 project" which is being taught today in some
     public schools?

  I have not heard any of our accused groups say.."You are black (or brown) , so you have no right to speak or be listened to !", yet we hear the
  reverse said oiften these days..so who are the "racists" now ?

  Thankfully, the majority of all races are more intelligent and less hateful than that..   BTW: there is just one race..the human race...

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« Reply #19 on: January 14, 2024, 03:10:12 AM »
There is only one race, the human race. But every ethnic group tends to prefer its own ethnic group.

Prejudice has always been there, and will always be there, coming from 1 group or another. Most people keep their prejudices to themselves. Those whom constantly rail about it have an agenda.

Theodore Roosevelt was no different.
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« Reply #20 on: January 14, 2024, 04:24:41 AM »
There is only one race, the human race. But every ethnic group tends to prefer its own ethnic group.

Prejudice has always been there, and will always be there, coming from 1 group or another. Most people keep their prejudices to themselves. Those whom constantly rail about it have an agenda.

Theodore Roosevelt was no different.

   There is some truth in that.. If you doubt..just visit any factory, hospital, office building or any large organization, which has a cafeteria..

   Folks work together..but when they go to lunch, a number tend to gather in racial or ethnic groups.  ..But that doesn't mean they dislike or
   disrespect others, but sit where thay are most comfortable culturally.
   others,.
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« Reply #21 on: January 14, 2024, 04:29:58 AM »
When America was first founded, only free men property owners could vote.  This is because they had a stake in the success of the country.  Then Andrew Jackson got a law passed that all free men could vote.  Then after the Civil War, free black men could vote.  Then in 1920 women could vote.  Women voting didn't really have an effect until about the 1960's.  Women tended to vote for whoever their husbands voted for.  Today, rich white liberal women push the liberal narrative.  With the welfare Great Society reforms of the 1960's single parent women got a lot of perks, welfare, food stamps, WIC money, section 8 housing, etc.  So, they became more dependent on the government and less dependent on a husband.  Men today have been marginalized, especially white men.  Don't know when a push back will occur.

The government is going to fail due to hyper-inflation and not being able to provide the benefits women need and result in chaos.  According to some economists, hyer-inflation will begin in 2025 after the next election regardless of who is elected.  Also, fewer workers in the workplace to pay taxes.  Remaining factories in the US are going to replace humans with robots to compete with cheap labor overseas.  That will mean corporations will pay more in taxes to make up the difference.  The US already has the highest corporate taxes in the world, so more factories will leave the US.  There will only be warehouse workers (also being replaced with robots), delivery trucks drivers (many will be replaced with self driving trucks in the future), doctors, lawyers, etc.  Not enough workers to pay taxes.  Homes are being built now using 3D concrete printers, requiring far fewer workers. 

When the government fails, what are we going to get?  Communism? Facism? or can we go back to being American? 

Another senario no one is talking about is an EMP burst that can knock out power over the whole US.  Either a giant solar flare (overdue) like the one that knocked out the telegraph lines in 1858, which would do far more damage today with our total dependence on the electric grid, or a nuclear explosion 250 miles in space above Kansas would do the same thing.  You have China, Russia, North Korea, and possibly Iran who could do it to knock out the US as a superpower.  90% of the people in the US could die due to starvation and disease, fighting and killing over resources, etc within 6 months.  The grid could be protected, but it would take about $200 billion to do it, and private power companies are not going to spend that kind of money. 

Also, China has developed a new virus that can kill humans 100% of the time.  Dr. Campbell from England on You tube has discussed this recently.  So far it is in a lab in China.  It needs to be destroyed.  The entire world needs to press China to stop experimenting and modifying viruses to kill humans or cause disease in humans. 

Lots of stupid and scary stuff going on .  We do not have leaders like we once did. 
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« Reply #22 on: January 14, 2024, 05:24:55 AM »
I'm not confident about this next election, and even if Trump wins,  I'm not confident that the other side will allow America to make a comeback.
The weakling cowards with law degrees are running this country. They win, and rule through manipulation, and confusion.
Civil War again, is likely, but the twist is the mobility of other countries to inject interferences that will stop a positive solution.
Biden has set this country up to be pillaged.
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