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Hamas isn't the only one!
« on: January 09, 2024, 01:59:40 AM »
 Just read in Newsweek that they found underground tunnels, being dug under a synagogue in New York City. When they city sent cement trucks to try and fill them, the Rabbi's had a fit. The city was worried that the tunnels were a danger to neighboring buildings because of structural damage and possible cave ins. Sure makes me wonder why they dug tunnels under their synagogue? Inquiring minds want to know!
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Re: Hamas isn't the only one!
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2024, 02:14:52 AM »
A place to hide from hamas?

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Re: Hamas isn't the only one!
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2024, 03:03:35 AM »
I'll just say that if I were a member of a group that has been persecuted for millennia, especially one that has literally experienced attempted genocide, and things were starting to heat up again, I'd be building tunnels/bunkers under my gathering places as well.
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Re: Hamas isn't the only one!
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2024, 04:35:41 AM »
 I thought of that too. But, after a short time thinking about it, not sure if I'd want to be in a tunnel, under a building over 100 years old, and a known synagogue. Probably wouldn't take much to bring a building like that down.
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Re: Hamas isn't the only one!
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2024, 09:06:34 AM »
Just me-  I wouldn't want to have to
take shelter underneath a built-up
structure, such as a basement like
under a northern house, or any
house or apartment that had one.
If the houses in this region had
basements, that's the last place
I'd want to be in a tornado or a
bombing, etc.
First place, all the debris would be
piled right on top of my head.
Second,  but just as important, all
the gases from broken gas delivery
pipes and the sewer gas from broken
plumbing and the stream of water
would be filling the basement like a
big bathtub, with me trapped underneath
all the debris. Sewer gas alone would
be enough to kill you seriously dead.
What,  carbon monoxide, and hydrogen
sulfide, and methane etc.?
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Re: Hamas isn't the only one!
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2024, 09:57:21 AM »
BY JAKE OFFENHARTZ
Updated 1:00 PM CST, January 9, 2024
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NEW YORK (AP) — A group of Hasidic Jewish worshippers were arrested amid a dispute over a tunnel secretly dug into the side of a historic Brooklyn synagogue, setting off a brawl between police and those who tried to defend the makeshift passageway.

The discovery of the tunnel at the Chabad-Lubavitch world headquarters in Crown Heights prompted an emergency structural inspection from the city Tuesday.

The building at 770 Eastern Parkway was once home to the movement’s leader, Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson, and draws thousands of visitors each year. Its Gothic Revival facade is immediately recognizable to adherents of the Chabad movement and replicas of the revered building have been constructed all over the world.

Motti Seligson, a spokesperson for Chabad, said a “group of extremist students” had secretly broken through the walls of a vacant building behind the headquarters, creating an underground passage beneath a row of office buildings and lecture halls that eventually connected to the synagogue.
The property’s manager brought in a construction crew Monday to fix the damaged walls, leading to a standoff with those who wanted the passageway to remain.

“Those efforts were disrupted by the extremists who broke through the wall to the synagogue, vandalizing the sanctuary, in an effort to preserve their unauthorized access,” Seligson said.

A police department spokesperson said officers were called to the building Monday afternoon to respond to a disorderly group that was trespassing and damaging a wall.

Video shot by witnesses showed police confronting young men standing within a hollowed out space inside a brick wall. After officers removed one of the men from the dusty crevasse, a group of onlookers can be seen shoving officers, tossing wooden desks and scattering prayer books. One officer appeared to deploy an irritating spray at the jeering group.

Police said 10 people were arrested for criminal mischief and criminal trespass and one for obstructing governmental administration.
It wasn’t immediately clear when the tunnel was constructed or what purpose it served.

As inspectors with the city’s building safety agency assessed the damage Tuesday, a group of police officers stood behind barricades surrounding the headquarters, blocking a line of young men from entering the building.

New York City Fire Department spokesperson Amanda Farinacci said the agency received an anonymous tip about the location last month. But when a fire prevention team responded, they found all of the exits operable and up to code, Farinacci said.
The building is now closed pending a structural safety review, Seligson said.

“This is, obviously, deeply distressing to the Lubavitch movement, and the Jewish community worldwide,” he said. “We hope and pray to be able to expeditiously restore the sanctity and decorum of this holy place.”

Schneerson led the Chabad-Lubavitch for more than four decades before his death in 1994, reinvigorating a Hasidic religious community that had been devastated by the Holocaust. The headquarters was also the epicenter of the 1991 Crown Heights riots, which began after a 7-year-old boy was struck and killed by a car in the rabbi’s motorcade.


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Re: Hamas isn't the only one!
« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2024, 03:00:13 AM »
Warsaw, Poland, 1940-1945, and the thousands of Jews that lost their lives when the Nazis flooded and gassed the underground sewer system that was being used to escape the madness.

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Re: Hamas isn't the only one!
« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2024, 03:55:56 AM »
   Probably a poor choice, buty where else could they go if attacked as the Israelis were on Oct 7 ?  But who knows?  could be an internicene argument.

    But then, with all those unknowns flooding across the borders and NY City getting their fair share.... no surprise synagogue elders may be feeling "antsy" !

      Surely, the folks living in kibbutzem near the gaza border, hav e"safe rooms"...which in some cases did not provide complete safety.
 
  This haven of safety concept is nothing new, since the Irish monastaries used a similar device, when confronted by raiding Vikings.

   Originally built as bell towers, the Irish "round towers" served well as a haven of safety, when the Vikings arrived.  Apparently working with the
  steeple mentality, they built them tall, up to 130 ft.
  Below, see an Irish round tower, note the entrance is well above ground...the monks could pull a ladder up after them.  There are a couple to be found in Scotland as well
 
   
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