Deeper and darker than we long thought possible..

[ironglow]

  Our republic seems standing upon the brink.  If we cannot get it squared away during this election cycle..it may be gone forever.

    Many brilliant and uncorrupted people are extremely concerned...  Here's just one, a man who is working with Trump..to save the republic.

   https://www.amazon.com/Government-Gangsters-State-Battle-Democracy/dp/1637588240/ref=sims_dp_d_dex_ai_speed_loc_mtl_v4_d_sccl_2_4/139-4635104-7591130?pd_rd_w=d5VPW&co

[ironglow]

Living here in Texas and seeing what is actually taking place with the border, population, economy and many other things , I say the problem already exists and is only getting worse. We are in a desperate slide for existence, and the young people seem to not care or want to destroy the system.

  Agreed Goldie.. It does  seem to be ready for the plunge..  Many of the young, are being distracted by music, sports, video games and the "social media"...and I think it is all part of their plan.

  It seems the universities have been bought out and co-opted by the oil rich Arab countries..so much so, that much of the "college educated' group
   have gone over to the terrorist side..seemingly not even realizing what they are doing.

  They cry crocodile tears over "racism and prejudice"..while they spout the most racist and vile slogans against white people, especially males..Christians and Jewish people.  their blindness seems to have no cure...... "Is there no balm in Gilead" ?

   Read and weep...thenTytler cycle:

   “A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations from the beginning of history has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence: From bondage to spiritual faith; From spiritual faith to great courage; From courage to liberty; From liberty to abundance; From abundance to selfishness; From selfishness to complacency; From complacency to apathy; From apathy to dependence; From dependence back into bondage” 

      (Professor Alender frazer Tytler..AKA Lord Woodhouselee)

[gene_225]

Seems this may be true in general terms, but the USA is close to 250 years. I would suggest that the cycle may be extended by external conflict. Thus the two existing external conflicts and the likely third conflict with China might be enough to draw the majority back towards the center, as it did In WWII and other conflicts.

[gene_225]

The only other thing is to decide which of the coming potential dictators is the one you would prefer  to have to help remove from office. Appears to me there are at least three running this cycle: Biden, Trump, and Kennedy. I'm not sure about Kennedy, but Trump seems particularly inept at picking minions who are unwaveringly loyal to him; thus he may be the one easiest to remove when the time comes it has to be done. Biden seems to have many loyal minions no matter what he does or says. Hmmm...

[Mule 11]

The only other thing is to decide which of the coming potential dictators is the one you would prefer  to have to help remove from office. Appears to me there are at least three running this cycle: Biden, Trump, and Kennedy. I'm not sure about Kennedy, but Trump seems particularly inept at picking minions who are unwaveringly loyal to him; thus he may be the one easiest to remove when the time comes it has to be done. Biden seems to have many loyal minions no matter what he does or says. Hmmm...

I’ll take Trump. Your mileage varies...

[Bob Riebe]

The only other thing is to decide which of the coming potential dictators is the one you would prefer  to have to help remove from office. Appears to me there are at least three running this cycle: Biden, Trump, and Kennedy. I'm not sure about Kennedy, but Trump seems particularly inept at picking minions who are unwaveringly loyal to him; thus he may be the one easiest to remove when the time comes it has to be done. Biden seems to have many loyal minions no matter what he does or says. Hmmm...

Trump did not clean house, like Obama did, because he tried to get along, and learned the hard way.

As nasty as all this is, it is the best thing that could have happened to the U.S. of A. ; it stopped the slide to same crap, different pile governing that was in full force before Trump made the Leninsts play their hands.

[gene_225]

Actually, I think our nightmare is continuing no matter who wins.

[Bob Riebe]

IF, if the Rep. take both the House and Senate, I think it will get worse as the Rep. will have zero reason to hide the fact they are as useful as teats on a boar.

It will be Rinos verses conservatives, with imitation news sources crying like babies and making up more stories.

[magooch]

I firmly believe that if Donald Trump wins, the Demunists will try anything and everything to take him out  and I wouldn't be surprised if they don't even wait until the election to try it.  If we should get so lucky that Trump actually survives to gain power, his highest priority should be to clean out just about every agency in the Federal Government and even go as far as try to get a lot of them prosecuted for treason and conspiracy.

An absolute must is all illegal invaders have to go and there should be a pause before any resumption of immigration.  G.S. must be terminated.

[Mule 11]

Funny how all that money went to defending other countries butt, none for securing our border

[ironglow]

If Mr Trump does not come out ahead this time I think our nightmare's are only beginning.

  I'll go with Trump!  Personally, I think that he being so deeply involved in his business matters, like many of us ..he did not realize just how deep,
   dark and entrenched the deep state is.

  For example...he trusted Bob Barr ..as did I, and many others I expect.. He likely thought that certain Repugnicans coud be trusted...who proved
   themselves untrustworthy.
   I strongly suspect that if re-elected, Trump will be much more selective in whom he trusts.

   Can the republic be saved..even by a complete Trump administration, including both houses?  Sadly, I have my doubts..  King Belshazzar could
   not read "the writing on the wall" any better than greedy Washington politicians can..

    Frankly, I don't want to be that naive, so thusly as far as I am concerned..a Tytler cycle recycle, is still a strong possibility.

[Lloyd Smale]

no doubt right. the left intentional pushed us down the shitter so far that no president can fix it in 4 years. then they can come back in 4 years when trump cant run and claim the mess is still here and the republicans didnt fix it and the only way it can be done is to adopt their new world order and socialism and throw the constitution in the garbage

Actually, I think our nightmare is continuing no matter who wins.

[ironglow]

no doubt right. the left intentional pushed us down the shitter so far that no president can fix it in 4 years. then they can come back in 4 years when trump cant run and claim the mess is still here and the republicans didnt fix it and the only way it can be done is to adopt their new world order and socialism and throw the constitution in the garbage

Actually, I think our nightmare is continuing no matter who wins.

   ..Quite likely true..  We would need 2-3 patriot administrations, just to get back where we were when Pres Trump left office !  ..Not likely to
   happen, since the public in general, sure isn't gaining any more wisdom..but dispensing with what little they may have gathered  between 2016
   and 2020...
   

[gene_225]

I have to say I see no practical way out; IG, how do you see us getting out of this situation?

[ironglow]

I have to say I see no practical way out; IG, how do you see us getting out of this situation?

  We are in a fix, for sure.  If we can get Trump back in office, along with an edge in congress, whe can start the road back, but we will need more than
   a single 4 year term with an honest admimistration.  We will need at least 2-3 of them to start back on the road to constitutional recovery...IMO

   Beyond that..a genuine nationwide spiritual revival would do the job..   Although I pray for it regularly....our nation may have to go into captivity
   under the "global billionaire control freaks"..before many realize what they have thrown away..  (e.g. ancient Israel)

[victorcharlie]

I you read 2nd Chronicles, you'll get an idea of what happens when the one in control is replaced by other gods.  This situation has played out time and time again through out history.  We're bound by the past and blinded by distractions.  It won't make much difference who's in the white house.  The country is in sin.  The consequences will come as a result.   The good news is if the country repents and turns back to God, he will restore us.  Until that happens, well, it rains on the righteous as well as the unrighteous. 

[ironglow]

   Evil running MUCH, MUCH DEEPER than we thought..

  Many astute people are catching on..  Leighton Grey podcast for one...warns us that the CCP also owns Trudeau.. and is deep into the Un and WEF

   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKupATyRSS0

   https://www.statnews.com/2020/01/29/who-reconvene-expert-committee-coronavirus/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=pmax-competitors&utm_term=&utm_con

  Grey says the CCP is virtually running many of the features and bodies of the UN..  No surprise that the UN decisions arte so nutty, so far as we are
      concerned.

   

[ironglow]

...And this;

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azrio_4yKKE