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Judge Tosses Machine Gun Case, Calls Ban Unconstitutional
« on: August 23, 2024, 10:49:06 AM »
https://www.newsmax.com/us/machine-gun-possession-unconstitutional/2024/08/23/id/1177694/

Friday, 23 August 2024 04:11 PM EDT

A federal judge has dismissed charges against a Kansas man for possessing a machine gun, saying prosecutors failed to establish that a federal ban on owning such weapons is constitutional.

The decision by U.S. District Judge John Broomes in Wichita on Wednesday appeared to mark the first time a court has held that banning machine guns is unconstitutional after the conservative-majority U.S. Supreme Court in 2022 issued a landmark ruling that expanded gun rights.

In that ruling, New York State Rifle & Pistol Association v. Bruen, the Supreme Court established a new test for assessing firearms laws, saying restrictions must be "consistent with this nation's historical tradition of firearm regulation."

The Supreme Court clarified that standard in June as it upheld a ban on people subject to domestic violence restraining orders having guns, saying a modern firearms restriction needs only a "historical analog," not a "historical twin," to be valid.

Broomes, an appointee of Republican then-President Donald Trump, said prosecutors in Tamori Morgan's case failed to identify such a historical analog to support charging him with violating the machine gun ban.

The U.S. Department of Justice can appeal the decision, which the gun safety group Everytown Law in a statement called "extreme and reckless." Prosecutors did not respond to a request for comment. Morgan's lawyer declined to comment.

Morgan was indicted last year on charges that he illegally possessed a machine gun and a machine gun conversion device known as a "Glock switch."

Congress first moved to limit machine guns through the National Firearms Act in 1934, which was enacted after the weapons became commonly used by criminals during the Prohibition Era. In 1986, it went further and barred possessing machine guns that were not lawfully possessed prior to that year.

Prosecutors said the weapons at issue in Morgan's case did not fall within the protections of the U.S. Constitution's Second Amendment, which guarantees the right to keep and bear arms for self-defense.

But Broomes disagreed, saying the "the machinegun and Glock switch are bearable arms within the plain text of the Second Amendment."

While prosecutors pointed to laws from the 1700s and 1800s barring the use of "dangerous or unusual weapons," Broomes said those historical examples focused on their use to terrorize the public, not simply possessing them in the first place.


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Re: Judge Tosses Machine Gun Case, Calls Ban Unconstitutional
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2024, 02:29:28 PM »
THANKS~! for bringing this up~!


Such is the way things were meant to be & are the way things SHOULD BE.

Without elaborating.   Much...


Look at what the ones who wrote the US Constitution said of such things in regard to the population being able to stand up in case of strife, using Militias & not wanting a "Standing Army", run by the Gubment, just as TYRANTS from the ages have used to oppress the citizens/populace.

THEY KNEW, because they were living thru it with British King George the 3rd., and his tyrannical British Gubnors oppressiveness..

( Guess who started the US revolutionary War at Lexington/Concord /etc.?  British Gubnor GENERAL GAGE, who sent his troops to TAKE/SEIZE the colonists/Patriots, SHOT/powder( <ammo), AND  ARMS they had in those locales.
 Remember what happened? I bet ya do IF YOU KNOW YOUR AMERICAN HISTORY....
The COLONISTS/PATRIOTS  FOUGHT THE TYRANNY & WE, the AMERICAN PATRIOTS WON~!

Most of ya should know the "rest of the story", unless you are some Commie Leftist Un-Educated POS ( or something of that sort & ya know who you are...) that wants to change the history of the USA by burning flags, taking down statues & changing the history books... POS... Grrrr.).
 
Regardless...  The Federalist papers can teach a LOT about such things to many folks.... IF they take the time to read & learn.

ETA: Thought it would be a good idea to bring a Link to show folks who want to learn about the FACTS, a place to go find out more.
;)

Here: https://www.constitutionfacts.com/us-articles-of-confederation/the-federalist-papers/

There are many but that is one to start with IF ya want to learn & don't already know about such things.

P.S. - here is a good link to learn more about FACTS about the US Constitution:
https://www.constitutionfacts.com/

Willfully ignorant need not look unless they are willing to learn the TRUTH, & change to a better system as WE. The PEOPLE, are supposed to have & be GUARANTEED, a CONSTITUTIONALLY REPRESENTATIVE  DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC

BTW... Commies should certainly check the link out, as WE, a PATRIOTS, know our US Constitution is better than your Marxist BS. ;)
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Re: Judge Tosses Machine Gun Case, Calls Ban Unconstitutional
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2024, 12:52:42 AM »
read this about a half hour ago on the news. if it ever came to pass and i doubt it will a guy would still be out of luck just because of the price of them today unless this changed that. to me looking at a 5k full auto ar compared to putting together an ar wit a binary or forced reset trigger is a no brainer. ill add that ive shot my share of m16s and a binary trigger ar15 is a lot easier to keep on target and a forced rest might actually be faster than a full auto 16. but what this would do is insure the ones i have remain legal
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