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Boeing's Beleaguered Starliner Returns Home Without Astronauts
« on: September 07, 2024, 11:26:51 AM »
https://www.newsmax.com/us/boeing-starliner-nasa/2024/09/07/id/1179444/

Boeing's beleaguered Starliner made its long-awaited return to Earth on Saturday without the astronauts who rode it up to the International Space Station, after NASA ruled the trip back too risky.

After years of delays, Starliner launched in June for what was meant to be a roughly weeklong test mission — a final shakedown before it could be certified to rotate crew to and from the orbital laboratory.

But unexpected thruster malfunctions and helium leaks en route to the space station derailed those plans, and NASA ultimately decided it was safer to bring crewmates Butch Wilmore and Suni Williams back on a rival SpaceX Crew Dragon — though they'll have to wait until February 2025.

The gumdrop-shaped Boeing capsule touched down softly at the White Sands Space Harbor in New Mexico at 0401 GMT Saturday, its descent slowed by parachutes and cushioned by airbags, having departed the space station around six hours earlier.

As it streaked red-hot across the night sky, ground teams reported hearing sonic booms. The spacecraft endured temperatures of 3,000 degrees Fahrenheit during atmospheric reentry.

NASA lavished praise on Boeing during a post-flight press conference from which representatives of the company were conspicuously absent.

"It was a bullseye landing," said Steve Stich, program manager for NASA's commercial crew program. "The entry in particular has been darn near flawless."

Still, he acknowledged that certain new issues had come to light, including the failure of a new thruster and the temporary loss of the guidance system.

He added it was too early to talk about whether Starliner's next flight, scheduled for August next year, would be crewed, instead stressing NASA needed time to analyze the data they had gathered and assess what changes were required to both the design of the ship and the way it is flown.

Ahead of the return leg, Boeing carried out extensive ground testing to address the technical hitches encountered during Starliner's ascent, then promised — both publicly and behind closed doors — that it could safely bring the astronauts home. In the end, NASA disagreed.

Asked whether he stood by that decision, NASA's Stich said: "It's always hard to have that retrospective look. We made the decision to have an uncrewed flight based on what we knew at the time and based on our knowledge of the thrusters and based on the modeling that we had."

History of Setbacks

Even without crew aboard, the stakes were high for Boeing, a century-old aerospace giant.

With its reputation already battered by safety concerns surrounding its commercial jets, its long-term prospects for crewed space missions hung in the balance.

Shortly after undocking, Starliner executed a powerful "breakout burn" to swiftly clear it from the station and prevent any risk of collision — a maneuver that would have been unnecessary if crew were aboard to take manual control if needed.

Mission teams then conducted thorough checks of the thrusters required for the critical "deorbit burn" that guided the capsule onto its reentry path around 40 minutes before touchdown.

Though it was widely expected that Starliner would stick the landing, as it had on two previous uncrewed tests, Boeing's program continues to languish behind schedule.

In 2014, NASA awarded both Boeing and SpaceX multibillion-dollar contracts to develop spacecraft to taxi astronauts to and from the space station, after the end of the Space Shuttle program left the agency reliant on Russian rockets.

Although initially considered the underdog, Elon Musk's SpaceX surged ahead of Boeing and has successfully flown dozens of astronauts since 2020.

The Starliner program, meanwhile, has faced numerous setbacks — from a software glitch that prevented the capsule from rendezvousing with the space station during its first uncrewed test flight in 2019, to the discovery of flammable tape in the cabin after its second test in 2022, to the current troubles.

With the space station scheduled to be decommissioned in 2030, the longer Starliner takes to become fully operational, the less time it will have to prove its worth.


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Re: Boeing's Beleaguered Starliner Returns Home Without Astronauts
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2024, 03:02:50 AM »
  So now what? Does Elon Musk come to their rescue ?
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Re: Boeing's Beleaguered Starliner Returns Home Without Astronauts
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2024, 03:08:34 AM »
For years the bean counters at Boeing don't consider engineering or their problems.  It was and still is "the bottom line".  Musk is involved from the ground up and considers cost and practicality in practically everything he builds.  He has now landed and reused rockets over 250 times.  His capsules are also reusable.  After launching people in a new capsule.  He takes the seats and all life support out and uses them to haul up supplies to the space station, and bring space station trash and dirty clothes back for washing and recycling. 

What satellites and spacecraft launched the past couple of years is about 80% of everything launched by everyone in the world. 
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« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2024, 03:25:04 AM »
  Then too, there are very few things government can do, that would not be better accomplished by  private enterprise.

That is not a slight against trhe average Joe or Jane who works for NASA, but the fact that politicians are getting deeply involved in things where thay have no business....and screw it all up !

   Same as they seem to do  in any other endeavor that 'government' attempts..  DOT, IRS, FHA, USPS, NEA, EPA, CIA, FBI, Secret Service, justice
   department...and on and on..you name it !

  ..And more political %@#&..  I understand Boeing is deep into DEI hiring, so one begins to wonder just how many split race, lesbian, alien, illiterate,
    revolutionary, witch doctor troglodites, are assembling rockets !   :D  ;D
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Re: Boeing's Beleaguered Starliner Returns Home Without Astronauts
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2024, 09:18:10 AM »
Musk was sued for his hiring practices (not enough minorities).  Anyway, because he launches spy satellites, so a military contractor, he is exempt.  He has to hire the best.  An aerospace engineer can start at SpaceX at $100,000 a year.  One with NASA starts at $85,000.  So who is going to get the best? 

Anyway, yes, the astronauts will fly home in February on a SpaceX capsule.  A capsule is coming with only two astronauts in late September, and SpaceX space suits for the two Boeing astronauts.  Space suits are not compatible for connections inside spacecraft.  SpaceX custom makes their suits to fit each astronaut. 

Musk is a hands on CEO or owner of his companies.  He is involved in almost every aspect. 
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Re: Boeing's Beleaguered Starliner Returns Home Without Astronauts
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2024, 01:13:27 PM »
 Yeah Mr Employer... if you don't hire at leasat 10% morons, you will be sued !  How did we fall so fast ?
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