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Re: Debate
« Reply #30 on: September 12, 2024, 04:30:31 AM »
Quote “ I do know that Mr. Trump stated two things that were untrue. “

  Untrue or what someone said was untrue?
Quote “ Europeans think he is a clown. “

  Pretty broad brush aye? My stepdad who came from Rome Italy voted for and respected President Trump before his untimely death. While I have not asked the other Europeans that I know their opinion of President Trump they do express fear and contempt for their governments and are concerned with the current socialist control over them and the price hike on all things. Elections should not be based upon feelings, instead on the best candidate for the job at hand which is whomever represents the Country’s interests best...

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« Reply #31 on: September 12, 2024, 04:52:58 AM »
Quote “ I do know that Mr. Trump stated two things that were untrue. “

  Untrue or what someone said was untrue?
Quote “ Europeans think he is a clown. “

  Pretty broad brush aye? My stepdad who came from Rome Italy voted for and respected President Trump before his untimely death. While I have not asked the other Europeans that I know their opinion of President Trump they do express fear and contempt for their governments and are concerned with the current socialist control over them and the price hike on all things. Elections should not be based upon feelings, instead on the best candidate for the job at hand which is whomever represents the Country’s interests best...

    Events proved your step Dad out.  Putin didn't move into Ukraine while Trump was president.

    Iran didn't start it's widespread adventures, until after Biden handed them $16 billion..apparently the Obama gift of many billions to them was
    just to "prime the pump".

       China didn't start circling Taiwan with their fleet, until Biden took over. 

       Compare that with how great things were going in every way...compared to the mess we are now flailing about in today.

       Question for all...   ARE YOU BETTER OFF NOW, THAN YOU WERE 4 YEARS AGO ? 
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Re: Debate
« Reply #32 on: September 12, 2024, 05:46:14 AM »
"Look" If you look at MSNBC, CNN, ABC, ......All the alphabet MSM outlets, they are going to say Harris ran away with the debate. More conservative news sources are going to say the debate was rigged for Harris, and let it go at that.

Truth is IMO! Trumps team, or Trump himself was not prepared for a biased debate. They knew, or should have known it would be designed to make Harris look good, and Trump bad. Trump's arrogance is his Achilles heel. He let her get to him. and blew the dam thing. He thought he would rattle her and she would self destruct. I think it boiled down to she was better prepared, and caught him off guard.
If I sound like I'm suddenly against Trump, that isn't true. Anyone with half a brain should know he is what the country needs the next four years, but he isn't going to win it without undecided voters, and sounding like he did in this one, he isn't going to win them over. He needs to put self on the shelf for a while, and start listening to his friends and some of their advice. He cannot do it alone.
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« Reply #33 on: September 12, 2024, 05:49:56 AM »
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       Question for all...   ARE YOU BETTER OFF NOW, THAN YOU WERE 4 YEARS AGO ? 

That don't matter to a lot of people. the democrats know that if they give people enough stuff, they will vote for democrats. Open the border gates, let in millions of people, give them enough stuff, find a way for them to vote, and they will vote democrat.
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« Reply #34 on: September 12, 2024, 08:39:00 AM »
"Look" If you look at MSNBC, CNN, ABC, ......All the alphabet MSM outlets, they are going to say Harris ran away with the debate. More conservative news sources are going to say the debate was rigged for Harris, and let it go at that.

Truth is IMO! Trumps team, or Trump himself was not prepared for a biased debate. They knew, or should have known it would be designed to make Harris look good, and Trump bad. Trump's arrogance is his Achilles heel. He let her get to him. and blew the dam thing. He thought he would rattle her and she would self destruct. I think it boiled down to she was better prepared, and caught him off guard.
If I sound like I'm suddenly against Trump, that isn't true. Anyone with half a brain should know he is what the country needs the next four years, but he isn't going to win it without undecided voters, and sounding like he did in this one, he isn't going to win them over. He needs to put self on the shelf for a while, and start listening to his friends and some of their advice. He cannot do it alone.


From what I have been reading, the undecides appear to favor Trump after the debate.  Even ABC is taking some big hits for putting on such a biased "debate".
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« Reply #35 on: September 12, 2024, 02:19:58 PM »
From NW;

   " Truth is IMO! Trumps team, or Trump himself was not prepared for a biased debate. They knew, or should have known it would be designed to make Harris look good, and Trump bad. Trump's arrogance is his Achilles heel. He let her get to him. and blew the dam thing. "
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  I believe ^^that^^ is true, bnut Trump should have been expecting the bias handling he received. 

   That being said, I do suspect something like audio earrings, simply because there being certain questions, which I have no doubt, they had previously outlined for her, which she spoke on for some time.  We all know she cannot carry on a lucid conversation for more than a few seconds,
  so there had to be some aid coming from somewhere.

     Still, Pres Trump should have been ready..and waiting for some opportunities.  Yes, they gave her softball questions , and him hardball ones,
   but he should have been ready and eager to flip the conversation back to exposing her weaknesses.

   
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« Reply #36 on: September 12, 2024, 02:51:33 PM »
I wouldn't doubt anything the Demoncrats would stoop to to win at anything.
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Re: Debate
« Reply #37 on: September 13, 2024, 03:37:27 AM »
Appears now there is an abc whistleblower coming out, say’s Kamala given questions in advance and President Trump would be fact checked while giving kamal assurances she would not. You know, rigged...

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« Reply #38 on: September 13, 2024, 02:45:05 PM »
I also think she had the questions prior to the debate. That was not the Kamala we have seen for the last 3 and a half years.
That is classic. She spoke well (evidently. I missed most of it). Because she spoke well, she must have cheated.

The Marxist party stole the last election, probably will steal this one. They piled lie upon lie to try and impeach Trump. They tried to rig the court with Trump haters to have him convicted, and jailed. After none of that worked they helped some loser try and kill Trump, but you can't bring yourself to believe there was cheating against Trump in the debate. LOL!  I think anyone that pays just a little bit of attention to whats happening can figure it out, but then there are those that plain just don't want to believe it.   
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« Reply #39 on: September 13, 2024, 04:29:01 PM »
Appears now there is an abc whistleblower coming out, say’s Kamala given questions in advance and President Trump would be fact checked while giving kamal assurances she would not. You know, rigged...
Source please. And Newsmax doesn't count. Plus you are telling me Trump was so ill prepared he didn't anticipate these questions?
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« Reply #40 on: September 13, 2024, 05:37:58 PM »
Why does News Max not count? It has become the most trusted source for news. Oh I guess you think CNN is the standard huh?


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« Reply #41 on: September 13, 2024, 07:08:46 PM »
Well, a bit of looking about to find this link. ( about 20-30 seconds & Tells me who the slacker is...):

https://100percentfedup.com/rumors-flying-that-abc-whistleblower-will-expose-abc/

( I do not know the "source" from the link above well enough to give it any veracity,  and thus cannot be more than the messenger bringing a link.
I find it somewhat disappointing that SOME ONE ELSE, has Little to NO skills at DOING THEIR OWN RESEARCH, apparently, but finds the time to spout off their LibtaRD BS TO OTHERS WITHOUT any vetting at all...

But, that lack of a particular skill-set explains a LOT about the one who questions something other than their own misguided & rather apparent DISREGARD for ANYONE bringing some sort of effin FACTS, instead of opinion & innuendo. What a "Maroon"...)   ::)

NW_Hunter was polite & I got his point.

Damn shame that others can't see the forest for the trees. Effin Libtards... Making up their own BS & calling it THEIR TRUTH... 

Geeez.. What a sad state that theses Commie/Socialist/Marxist are actually allowed to vote. ( Let alone breed) Imagine that. A country with a CONSTITUTION that allows for even the Commie B-tards to vote...
 :-\

IF THEY had control, they would not allow anyone who did not suck their crap up to vote, let alone say anything against their Commie BS. Censorship to "protect the Proletariat" BS...

Aww... I better stop now... Someones feelings, or Butt will get hurt about it...

bye.


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Re: Debate
« Reply #42 on: September 14, 2024, 03:08:46 AM »
From Guzzzi;

  " Source please. And Newsmax doesn't count. Plus you are telling me Trump was so ill prepared he didn't anticipate these questions?"
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   Yes; clearly Trump was unprepared...since he had no idea the moderators would be so blatantly biased.  Candidly, I think he should have expected
   such dishonesty, seeing past performances by the alphabets.
 
   So why doesn't Newsmax count ? Yes, they tend toward the right, but that doesn't make them dishonest.  Newsmax credibility is far above the alphabet nets..just ask anybody here..

  Fact is, by your statement, you demonstrate that you are not "well read". There are plenty of sources which claim ABC biuas in the debates.

  The whole world watches the US presidential debates, since all are affected by the outcome of our elections, and some of them have chipped in.

    https://vinnews.com/2024/09/12/shock-claim-kamala-was-given-sample-questions-by-abc-prior-to-debate/

   https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13843021/debate-moderators-Trump-obvious-question.html

   https://www.theblaze.com/news/linsey-davis-debate-fact-checking-trump

   https://www.dailywire.com/news/abc-news-moderators-blasted-for-extreme-bias-fact-checking-trump-but-not-harris

   https://www.wsj.com/opinion/abcs-bias-deprived-voters-of-a-fair-debate-2024-presidential-election-trump-harris-01410617

   https://www.allsides.com/blog/how-abc-s-debate-moderators-showed-bias


      ...Even the Hindustan Times wasaghast atthe dishonesty;

 https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/us-news/shame-on-you-abc-debate-moderators-blasted-for-bias-towards-harris-during-first-showdown-with-trump-101726037020864



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Re: Debate
« Reply #43 on: September 14, 2024, 03:19:18 AM »
 BTW; It couldn't be the fact that Dana Walters, Disney CEO.. (Disney owns ABC) is a "sorority sister" to the Kamel, has anything to do with it...could it ?

  Meanwhile; the senate will oinvestigate..  https://www.wcbm.com/news/sen-marshall-targets-harris-campaign-abc-over-debate/

  Here Sky News Australia, takes on the crooked aspects..   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nz_GYMH1Ap4

  Pretending that that was an ethically run debate...is tantamount to pretending the moon is made of green cheese !  Trump "fact checked" 7 times
   while Harris never fact checked..Not to mention where they went for "facts" !

  The moderators' biases were plain, in the way framed questions..accusing Trump, while excusing Harris..

   ...It sure is comical how, just a month or two ago, Demonrats were callimn Biden to dump Harris..and now suddenly, she is the greatest !
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Re: Debate
« Reply #44 on: September 14, 2024, 05:18:36 AM »
Appears now there is an abc whistleblower coming out, say’s Kamala given questions in advance and President Trump would be fact checked while giving kamal assurances she would not. You know, rigged...
Source please. And Newsmax doesn't count. Plus you are telling me Trump was so ill prepared he didn't anticipate these questions?
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No doubt that Newsmax doesn't count to you, because they actually report the truth.
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« Reply #45 on: September 14, 2024, 08:17:44 AM »
Why does News Max not count? It has become the most trusted source for news. Oh I guess you think CNN is the standard huh?


Yup.  Can't be using them there facts.
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Re: Debate
« Reply #46 on: September 14, 2024, 10:52:49 AM »
Appears now there is an abc whistleblower coming out, say’s Kamala given questions in advance and President Trump would be fact checked while giving kamal assurances she would not. You know, rigged...
Source please. And Newsmax doesn't count. Plus you are telling me Trump was so ill prepared he didn't anticipate these questions?
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I’ll do better than that. Tim Walz just said that kamel started her career as a young prostitutor. Well, he finally said something true...
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Re: Debate
« Reply #48 on: September 15, 2024, 01:42:46 PM »
A few states…..ok, which?
Agreed that there are places where cats and dogs are used for food. That is not the issue. Are  migrants in Ohio stealing people’s pets for food?
Circle of educators?.  I got out of that circle 22 years ago. I have not talked to any of them since. The folk that I talk to about these things are you guys.
 I am pretty old myself at 77.

    The baby killer resort to trick titles for fules that mean the direct opposite. Much like the new "inflation reduction act"...which does not reduce inflationat all..in fact it aggravates inflation, by adding near another trillion dollars to our debt !

   With the baby butcher crowd, they call some moves a "comfort" provision, which is another way of lying , to say they will 'comfort" the baby,
  off in a room somewhere, then do nothing further tohelp, feed or care for the infant.        Check this out !

     https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/healthcare/3149972/harris-trump-fact-checking-late-term-abortion-debate/

   Since I knew those who should red it..probably wouldn't.. I took the liberty to cut a clip, mentioning Gov Walz's Minnesota, and the action there, while his regime was on watch....
       
   " Data from the Minnesota Department of Health indicate that eight babies were born alive following botched abortions during Walz’s time as governor, three in 2019 and five in 2021.

Only three of the infants, one in 2019 and two in 2021, were reported to have received “comfort care measures.” None of the infants survived.
             (Washington Examiner)
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« Reply #49 on: September 29, 2024, 10:01:51 AM »
The silence is telling... Once again...
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« Reply #50 on: September 30, 2024, 01:13:24 AM »
dont think the debate moved voters either way. that said, trump underestimated her and her trainers and should have prepared better. he can tend to think hies superior to others and doesnt need help. he also should have realized that she no doubt was privy to every question days ahead. bottom line is he was poorly prepared and lucky to come out of it without real damage done. I hope there doing a better job of preparing vance. i fear if he gets his ass handed to him it just might be the election
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Re: Debate
« Reply #51 on: September 30, 2024, 01:26:00 AM »
Appears now there is an abc whistleblower coming out, say’s Kamala given questions in advance and President Trump would be fact checked while giving kamal assurances she would not. You know, rigged...
Source please. And Newsmax doesn't count. Plus you are telling me Trump was so ill prepared he didn't anticipate these questions?
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       Looks like Mule, along with many others....was correct !
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