This POS, ...should have been shot on the spot (IMO)!

[ironglow]

  Agreed ?     https://www.youtube.com/shorts/8joUxj0xOig

  Listen to him whine, when the men take hold of him !

[Tommyt]

Billy club right to the head

[Land_Owner]

That cop hasn't had so much fun in a long time. Fun he will discuss with fellow officers again and again. Break his arm if he resists.

[scattershot]

The other officers on the scene have helped the arresting officer subdue the POS.

[Casull]

Still some justice in the world.

[ironglow]

  He's probably darn lucky he went through the confrontation alive, once the male officers took hold of him!
   
    They definitely should use this clip in his trial...one time I wish I were the judge..

[Graybeard]

You guys must be watching a different video than I am seeing when I click that link. It begins with the cops on the dude. I do see a female down but it didn't show whether the perp put her down or if she fell down on her own.

I just can't understand all the hate I'm seeing in these posts to a guy that when I watch the video shows him doing nothing but getting taken down.

You guys must be seeing something I don't when I click the link and yeah I've clicked it multiple times.

[Land_Owner]

Bill, don't be obtuse. You have to ASSUME the video started AFTER the perp put down the female officer as it is a REACTIVE video that did not start prior to the beginning of the event. Your lying eyes tell you there is more to this than that shown.

[Casull]

Bill, don't be obtuse. You have to ASSUME the video started AFTER the perp put down the female officer as it is a REACTIVE video that did not start prior to the beginning of the event. Your lying eyes tell you there is more to this than that shown.

This!

[Graybeard]

Sorry guys, I just don't agree with you on this one. It seems you ALL want to do away with the Constitution and let the cops be judge, jury and executioner all. I refuse to be sucked into such beliefs, I believe in the US Constitution and equal justice for all. Clearly you do not.

[Casull]

Not sure what you're looking at GB, but all I saw was cops trying to cuff and subdue a suspect next to a female officer who's face had been bloodied.  Didn't see no excessive force AND I surely didn't see anyone acting as "judge, jury and executioner".

[JBinMN]

MY opinion is that I did not see enough "evidence" in the short video to make any sort of a call on way or the other.
NOT ENOUGH EVIDENCE, would be a an easy thing for a jury to decide.

Consider this. It might be YOU in a court of law for what YOU think is a "Justified" Self Defense shooting, & would you want the jury to just go with something like what ya just saw in the short video, or want more FACTS to establish any guilt when presumed INNOCENT. Do You want folks to decide without ALL of the FACTS?

I am with Graybeard on this one.   Simply...    Not enough evidence in the video to make a call about innocent or guilty.

YMMV. ( Think on it. )

[Casull]

MY opinion is that I did not see enough "evidence" in the short video to make any sort of a call on way or the other.
NOT ENOUGH EVIDENCE, would be a an easy thing for a jury to decide.

Consider this. It might be YOU in a court of law for what YOU think is a "Justified" Self Defense shooting, & would you want the jury to just go with something like what ya just saw in the short video, or want more FACTS to establish any guilt when presumed INNOCENT. Do You want folks to decide without ALL of the FACTS?

I am with Graybeard on this one.   Simply...    Not enough evidence in the video to make a call about innocent or guilty.

YMMV. ( Think on it. )

Did NOT say he was guilty.  All I said was that the officers were simply cuffing and subduing a SUSPECT that was actively resisting.  Don't need a jury for that.

[Land_Owner]

Counting on eye witnesses to fill in the PRE video gap.

[Graybeard]

Not sure what you're looking at GB, but all I saw was cops trying to cuff and subdue a suspect next to a female officer who's face had been bloodied.  Didn't see no excessive force AND I surely didn't see anyone acting as "judge, jury and executioner".

OK let me illustrate for you:

1. Subject line of this thread: This POS, ...should have been shot on the spot (IMO)!

2. Billy club right to the head

3. That cop hasn't had so much fun in a long time. Fun he will discuss with fellow officers again and again. Break his arm if he resists.

4. Bill, don't be obtuse. You have to ASSUME the video started AFTER the perp put down the female officer as it is a REACTIVE video that did not start prior to the beginning of the event. Your lying eyes tell you there is more to this than that shown.

5. Bill, don't be obtuse. You have to ASSUME the video started AFTER the perp put down the female officer as it is a REACTIVE video that did not start prior to the beginning of the event. Your lying eyes tell you there is more to this than that shown. THIS

6. Not sure what you're looking at GB, but all I saw was cops trying to cuff and subdue a suspect next to a female officer who's face had been bloodied.  Didn't see no excessive force AND I surely didn't see anyone acting as "judge, jury and executioner".

I neither said nor implied excessive force was used. It was NOT the police's response I was address but rather the GBO member responses that wanted him shot on site, bashed up side the head and other such.

From the video which is all we at GBO have to go by we don't even know he has committed a crime. For all you can tell from the video he may have been helping the female officer survive an attack on herself.

Since when did lawabiding, FIRST and SECOND Amendment believing  GBO members start believing in shoot first and ask questions later?

Me I'll go with innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. I don't know what happened to cause the man to have the cuffs put on him. I haven't spoken to any eye witnesses and have no idea what happened before the video started. I'm not gonna approve the sort of violence by police you guys have clearly stated should happen.

[Casull]

I neither said nor implied excessive force was used. It was NOT the police's response I was address but rather the GBO member responses that wanted him shot on site, bashed up side the head and other such.

Ok, I'll give you that.  I thought you talking about the LEO's acting as judge, jury and executioner.  Sometimes we get a bit riled up over stuff like this.

[DDZ]

The female cop did have a bloody nose. Have to believe something more happened than her falling down. Cops don't get bloody noses from applying handcuffs. I guess in todays world if you think you are innocent its okay to fight the police.

[ironglow]

  ..I was speaking for the female cop...  If he attacked her and bloodied her nose..and whatever else, I would think she would have been justified in
  shooting him herself, had she been able.

   As I see it ; we are today catering far too much ..to a mob of self-centered  ans selfish  portion of the population...who thinks they should be the judge and jury as to whether the cop has any right to even speak to them. ..And if they decide the cop has no such right...a physical attack is in order !

  One thing that should be taught children early in life....learn the meaning of the word.. COMPLY, and when it should be utilized.

[Land_Owner]

Based SOLELY on the "evidence" presented in the video YOU are right. The worldly violence, rhetoric, divisions of We The People, modify our preception of "all that came before in the meaning of time."

I can't take it anymore and am ready to go ballistic. The pot is boiling and a 0.002" additional push on the trigger is all it will take to start a watering of the Tree of Liberty with the blood of tyrants and patriots. The ONLY way, not the right or legal, to diminish the Left's Socialist agenda and their FN, lick- spittle, Clarion is to thin that herd.

I feel this way every day though still recovering from pulmonary embolism surgery 5.5 weeks ago, weak as a kitten, can hardly stand, and mad as hell at the division of We The People this election cycle.

[GTS225]

  One thing that should be taught children early in life....learn the meaning of the word.. COMPLY, and when it should be utilized.

Now we see your true colors.  What might have happened if YOU were a central figure in say, 1760 to 1775, guiding the populace as to what should be?

Roger

[Land_Owner]

Fatherless families and Godlessness are modern contributing stressors too. That I am still alive when my embolism, year(s) in the making, is typically found on an autopsy table. Life is good. My faith is stronger. How ugly and THICK is this?



The alternative is in Him and His plan for me appears to continue into the future on this side of the sod, for which I am preparing to reload, cast, powder coat, accurize guns, prep wildlife food plots, improve blinds, and hunt deer and feral hogs.

My hobbies are quite strong too, keeping me out of the public whirlpool of white lies, lies, and damn lies. I prefer to watch nature wake to dawn and move at random throughout the day, watch the grass grow, and take life on a slow bell.

Oh yeah, and VOTE.

[gypsyman]

  Gonna sound sexist, that's the way I see it. How many women should actually be in that line of work? Youngest son going thru the academy right now to get into LE. Had several drop out in the first month. Found out, women and men, are not equal. Some are being pushed, some thinking that the bad guy will treat them like a lady, find out the hard way. Did she deserve it, no, but I got a feeling a male officer would have handled it differently. Seen a video several years ago, female officer pulled over a speeder, he got out, caught on dash cam, when she confronted him, dropped her like a rock, speed away. License plate was caught on video and he was caught, she quit the force less than a month later. Men, in their DNA have a better understanding of a situation like that, and being trained to handle it. They keep pushing this ''equality'' and DEI stuff, you'll see more of this.

[Land_Owner]

Women are approx. 1/2 the population and it should be appropriqte for women officers to interface with women perps, but that is not how confrontations stack up.  Certainly need women officers to pat down and search shoplifting women.  Call them in from another location?  Some make Detective and have instincts.  Good friend is an officer and she has to deal with a "Good Old Boy" Network at the jail for which she works.  Tough to make advancement.  Tough duty schedule.  Heavy on the night work. Almost a hostile work environment.  Pay is OK for the area, not a lot else to do. Benefits are adequate and necessary.  Pension too, if she lives through the constant hazing. 

[DDZ]

Dont know why women choose to be a police officer, where they could have physical contact with criminals. How many videos have we seen where a female cop goes to cuff a criminal, and then gets physically beat by the criminal? I just don't believe that women cops should be put on the street where those situations can happen. With so many job safety standards in the world today. Why are female cops allowed on the street?
 I think physical ability requirements for potential police officers have been relaxed for men and women. Used to be you never saw a cop with a gut hanging over his belt. Now you see some cops that look like they spend a lot of time at the donut shop.

[ironglow]

  One thing that should be taught children early in life....learn the meaning of the word.. COMPLY, and when it should be utilized.

Now we see your true colors.  What might have happened if YOU were a central figure in say, 1760 to 1775, guiding the populace as to what should be?

Roger

   Different time....different situation..   Was that street punk being confronted by one of the king's tyrannical agents, trying toi take away any
    freedom he still possessed?

   I do not see any connection between the patriots of 1775, and the common street thug of today...   Nor do I see any relationship between the
   Boston "Tea Party" of 1773, and the pot & coke parties of today.

    That may be just the difference life experiences and different view of history each of us have.

[GTS225]

  One thing that should be taught children early in life....learn the meaning of the word.. COMPLY, and when it should be utilized.

Now we see your true colors.  What might have happened if YOU were a central figure in say, 1760 to 1775, guiding the populace as to what should be?

Roger

   Different time....different situatiion..   Was that street punk being confronted by one of the king's tyrannical agents, trying toi take away any
    freedom he still possessed?

   I do not see any connection between the patriots of 1775, and the common street thug of today...   Nor do I see any relationship between the
   Boston "Tea Party" of 1773, and the pot & coke parties of today.

Really?  You don't see a connection?  How about this.........those "patriots" of 1775 were, I'm sure, considered to be rabble-rousers, treasonous criminals and "street thugs" by the standing governmental hierarchy of the time.  The followers that won our freedom were also the "terrorists" of yesteryear.  Just because we won back then does not alter how they can be viewed by an open-minded individual that isn't wearing blinders.
I'm not saying they were wrong for doing what was done. History says they were right, but then, history is written by the winning party.

Greybeard is 100% correct in his posts refuting what's being espoused by you and others.  That video could easily have been edited by the submitter, and been made up of two or even three different videos.

Seems y'all are getting a bit gullible in your old age.  Those laws that protect YOU also protect everyone else.  If y'all can't see that, then y'all might want to go back to school and re-learn grade school level comprehension.

Roger

[ironglow]

  One thing that should be taught children early in life....learn the meaning of the word.. COMPLY, and when it should be utilized.

Now we see your true colors.  What might have happened if YOU were a central figure in say, 1760 to 1775, guiding the populace as to what should be?

Roger

   Different time....different situatiion..   Was that street punk being confronted by one of the king's tyrannical agents, trying toi take away any
    freedom he still possessed?

   I do not see any connection between the patriots of 1775, and the common street thug of today...   Nor do I see any relationship between the
   Boston "Tea Party" of 1773, and the pot & coke parties of today.

Really?  You don't see a connection?  How about this.........those "patriots" of 1775 were, I'm sure, considered to be rabble-rousers, treasonous criminals and "street thugs" by the standing governmental hierarchy of the time.  The followers that won our freedom were also the "terrorists" of yesteryear.  Just because we won back then does not alter how they can be viewed by an open-minded individual that isn't wearing blinders.
I'm not saying they were wrong for doing what was done. History says they were right, but then, history is written by the winning party.

Greybeard is 100% correct in his posts refuting what's being espoused by you and others.  That video could easily have been edited by the submitter, and been made up of two or even three different videos.

Seems y'all are getting a bit gullible in your old age.  Those laws that protect YOU also protect everyone else.  If y'all can't see that, then y'all might want to go back to school and re-learn grade school level comprehension.

Roger

  Sure...now try to convince me that the street thug who attacked that woman, was acting out of patriotism, or some other altruistic motive ! 

   Do you truly imagine that gangbangers strut around the hoods repeating to one another, the following pledge?.. 

    "“We mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor"  ;      

   I can't speak for you...but I believe the street thugs and our founding fathers...are two very different types of people..

  To reiterate as I pointed out in reply #17...  IF that woman, being a duly appointed law officer, was attacked and had her nose bloo0died, she had a viable right and reason to stop that assault, by whatever means necessary  (IMO).   ..And I bet any reasonable court would back me up !

[ironglow]

    GTS225  take a look..

     It would do no harm had you checked a bit further, before coming to the thugs defense..  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYng2TSDonQ

    Too many of these thinhgs going on in the big cities..and it is time to stop the lawlessness... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAmmMwp3hQc

[Land_Owner]

Johnny Ringo says GUILTY!

[GTS225]

I did not say I was coming to his defense.  I said that Greybeard was correct, that the video DOES NOT show ANY guilt on the "street thug's" part.  YOU posted that, and YOU called for his execution on the spot, in complete violation of ALL laws and rights that ALL of us have.

YOU are WRONG on this, and you got others to follow along with your gang-type lynch mob mentality.

And, it seems, just like so many Demonrats, you're doubling down.

Good luck with that.....Roger