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So Called "Service Dogs" And Their BS Owners
« on: February 05, 2025, 11:35:36 AM »
Was in the new Bucees in Amarillo today and watched a store manager try to reason with a dumbass that brought his mutt into the store. He was from somewhere up north and yelling at the top of his lungs that it was a "service dog" and he could take it anywhere he pleased. The dog had on a collar, and a leash. He was a mutt.
Well, he soon found out he was mistaken and was kicked completely off the property. The manager was black, polite, and professional, explaining that in Texas you'd better have written proof of service certification and that dogs weren't allowed in this store.
I grew up around family  members that  were WWII veterans, Korean veterans, and have friends, and family members that were Vietnam veterans, that didn't need a dog to validate their existence. I have gulf war friends, and a 40 year old son with 3 combat tours that don't need a dog 24/7 to cope with life.
If you can't go into a grocery store, or restaurant, and function with some normality for a few minutes to an hour, without your mutt slobbering, and shedding all over the grocery store, or eatery, you don't need a dog, you need institutionalized.
I understand folks loving their dogs, but everyone else doesn't have to. You want respect for your service, whether it be military, or first responder, then respect the people around you, and keep the dog out of stores selling food. And no, I'm not talking about seeing eye dogs for the blind. These are the exceptions.

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« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2025, 12:11:53 AM »
most REAL service dogs are extremely well trained and id rather one of them next to me is a store or resteraunt than most people. who am i to tell a combat vet that has saw action what he should or shouldnt have to cope. because someone you know doesnt need it doesnt dismiss the thousands of people they help immensely
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« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2025, 02:12:04 AM »
Gotta agree about dogs in eateries and stores. Just because you Love your dog doesn't mean I do. I'm not a dog hater, just a dumb person and ignorant person disliker.

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« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2025, 04:21:40 AM »
Time for a universal service dog certification. I’m tired  of seeing dogs everywhere, even in restaurants. This has been abused for far too long.


People who have to have little Fluffy with them all th time are mentally ill , in my view.

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« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2025, 04:43:30 AM »
I agree also. Don't know what happened to so many people in this country that have given dogs human status. I don't hate dogs. I just don't want to see them in places of business. Something else that is a pet peeve of mine is dog owners expect family, friends, and acquaintances to take care of their mutt when they are away. You want to own a dog, and go on vacation or business trips. Take your mutt to a kennel.   
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« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2025, 08:58:52 AM »
Well i guess im sorry they inconvenience you. anyone here a vet??? what were you doing when those soldiers were crawling through mud getting shot at inconveniently for you and your kids. i think a dog on a leash should be any more inconvenient to you than loosing a leg, arm or eye was for them. talk about some silly crap from a bunch of wining women. you should be ashamed.
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« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2025, 11:26:40 AM »
Well i guess im sorry they inconvenience you. anyone here a vet??? what were you doing when those soldiers were crawling through mud getting shot at inconveniently for you and your kids. i think a dog on a leash should be any more inconvenient to you than loosing a leg, arm or eye was for them. talk about some silly crap from a bunch of wining women. you should be ashamed.


You're out there on this one Lloyd.  Haven't seen any vets doing this.  It's women and girly men who have their "emotional support" dogs and trying to pass them off as service animals.
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« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2025, 11:29:48 AM »
I haven't seen it either from vets. Just ignorant people.

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« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2025, 12:39:15 PM »
  Genuine service dogs..OK with me..

   Some people abusing a privilege given to people in real need..such as blind, wounded, stone deaf or truly mental needy...not OK..

  However if it is a local business, such as a hardware, small restaurant etc, involving regular customers, who even may enjoy the pet as well,
  and nobody complains; I figure."why kick up a bunch of dust "!

 
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« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2025, 02:21:27 PM »
So because someone joins the military for 4 years, then goes home,  he's now a veteran. Police and firefighters that are considered veterans, usually serve 20 to 30 years. I've never owned or seen a veteran police cap. 8)

It's bizarre thinking that just because they are veterans 4 or so years that the rest of the United States population has to tolerate their pets in grocery stores and eateries. Many think that veteran baseball caps are free passes to privileged behavior.
I respect veterans if they behave respectfully towards other folks rights

The actual truth concerning veterans and combat.

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« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2025, 10:45:34 PM »
I was in the service for many years. Went to Vietnam came home and raised a family. Was proud to serve my country and proud to be a veteran. I know quite a few first responders and definitely respect them also. I myself don't think I should be treated any different than any other ordinary American. The way I see it is there are certain people who just like to create kaos and disruption and this forum sure has it's fair share of them. Getting back to the dog aspect I still agree about dogs in eateries. I love dogs but at this time in my life I enjoy a nice meal without the hair, smell, fleas and whatever else Fido brings.

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« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2025, 11:28:09 PM »
the right answer. problem lies in the same thing with about everything in this country. ABUSE! some x addict that gets social security disability claiming he has ptsd because of it and gets a dog. as to vets. i do volunteer work at the local VA hospital and just in this rural area i know 4 vets with dogs. let me be with one on them when you cry babies try to kick the dog out of a store or resteraunt and stand by!! like i said id rather have a proper trained service dog sitting next to me while i eat than 90% of the people i know. at least they wine a hell of alot less.
  Genuine service dogs..OK with me..

   Some people abusing a privilege given to people in real need..such as blind, wounded, stone deaf or truly mental needy...not OK..

  However if it is a local business, such as a hardware, small restaurant etc, involving regular customers, who even may enjoy the pet as well,
  and nobody complains; I figure."why kick up a bunch of dust "!

 
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« Reply #12 on: February 06, 2025, 11:53:20 PM »
typical answer from someone that found a way to avoid serving. yes dee you were a cop. when you joined the Viet Nam war was still going. you took a job in your home town by mommy that paid 2 to 3 times as much as you would have made in the service. yes you served those people in that small town or county but you DID NOT serve this country. there were people sleeping in jungles getting shot at by snipers while you took your sweety to the movie friday night. ya before you wine about it not all vets got shot at but all of them had to leave their home towns and mommy. i know a crap pile of cops. couple of them including our county sheriff are some of my best friends. not one of them would try to tell me they became a cop to serve anyone. they took it because it was a decent job that supported their family. Fireman? same thing. up here though 90 percent of them are volunteers. now those guys do it to serve their community. by the way have you never seen a blue lives matter or thin blue line hat or t shirt!! if you were a cop for 20 years id think youd be proud enough to wear a hat. you sure have no problem reminding us all the time ;)  im
 a veteran. did 8 years and am dammed proud of it. you seem to constantly take shots at vets. feeing guilty because you let others go do what you couldnt or wouldnt ::)  im done with this and you. the time away didnt change a thing. your still a biter hateful old a** **** that probably kicks dogs
So because someone joins the military for 4 years, then goes home,  he's now a veteran. Police and firefighters that are considered veterans, usually serve 20 to 30 years. I've never owned or seen a veteran police cap. 8)

It's bizarre thinking that just because they are veterans 4 or so years that the rest of the United States population has to tolerate their pets in grocery stores and eateries. Many think that veteran baseball caps are free passes to privileged behavior.
I respect veterans if they behave respectfully towards other folks rights

The actual truth concerning veterans and combat.

https://www.midwestdisability.com/blog/2019/12/what-percentage-of-soldiers-see-combat/
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« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2025, 11:54:47 PM »
my appologys. thank you for what you did and those arent just words. you may not agree but i feel you do deserve to be treated better than some peace loving liberal or someone who could have but wouldnt serve. this country is full of people that sit back and let others do the real work. even in high places in this government. senetors and congressmen that want you to believe they are only there to serve you when they avoided the military and took cushy higher paying jobs. 
I was in the service for 8 years. Went to Vietnam came home and raised a family. Was proud to serve my country and proud to be a veteran. I know quite a few first responders and definitely respect them also. I myself don't think I should be treated any different than any other ordinary American. The way I see it is there are certain people who just like to create kaos and disruption and this forum sure has it's fair share of them. Getting back to the dog aspect I still agree about dogs in eateries. I love dogs but at this time in my life I enjoy a nice meal without the hair, smell, fleas and whatever else Fido brings.
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« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2025, 12:43:41 AM »
typical answer from someone that found a way to avoid serving. yes dee you were a cop. when you joined the Viet Nam war was still going. you took a job in your home town by mommy that paid 2 to 3 times as much as you would have made in the service. yes you served those people in that small town or county but you DID NOT serve this country. there were people sleeping in jungles getting shot at by snipers while you took your sweety to the movie friday night. ya before you wine about it not all vets got shot at but all of them had to leave their home towns and mommy. i know a crap pile of cops. couple of them including our county sheriff are some of my best friends. not one of them would try to tell me they became a cop to serve anyone. they took it because it was a decent job that supported their family. Fireman? same thing. up here though 90 percent of them are volunteers. now those guys do it to serve their community. by the way have you never seen a blue lives matter or thin blue line hat or t shirt!! if you were a cop for 20 years id think youd be proud enough to wear a hat. you sure have no problem reminding us all the time ;)  im
 a veteran. did 8 years and am dammed proud of it. you seem to constantly take shots at vets. feeing guilty because you let others go do what you couldnt or wouldnt ::)  im done with this and you. the time away didnt change a thing. your still a biter hateful old a** **** that probably kicks dogs
So because someone joins the military for 4 years, then goes home,  he's now a veteran. Police and firefighters that are considered veterans, usually serve 20 to 30 years. I've never owned or seen a veteran police cap. 8)

It's bizarre thinking that just because they are veterans 4 or so years that the rest of the United States population has to tolerate their pets in grocery stores and eateries. Many think that veteran baseball caps are free passes to privileged behavior.
I respect veterans if they behave respectfully towards other folks rights

The actual truth concerning veterans and combat.

https://www.midwestdisability.com/blog/2019/12/what-percentage-of-soldiers-see-combat/

Same old deal. Different opinion gets ,personal attacks from the resident munchkin "opinion police" with no moderators in site. :)
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Re: So Called "Service Dogs" And Their BS Owners
« Reply #15 on: February 07, 2025, 01:15:09 AM »
Well i guess im sorry they inconvenience you. anyone here a vet??? what were you doing when those soldiers were crawling through mud getting shot at inconveniently for you and your kids. i think a dog on a leash should be any more inconvenient to you than loosing a leg, arm or eye was for them. talk about some silly crap from a bunch of wining women. you should be ashamed.

Oh really? I should be ashamed? My comment was referring to dogs other than service dogs. Which if it isn't a registered service dog the owner has no business taking it into a store or restaurant. If someone gets seriously injured building a bridge for you and your kids to drive your car across. Does that give them a right to take their mutt into a store? If a cop gets shot and seriously injured from protecting the public. Does that give them a right to take their dog anywhere they want? If a fireman gets seriously injured from trying to save your, and your kids home. Does it give them a right to take a dog anywhere they want? Lots of people lose arms, legs eyes, etc.. serving the public. If they can't leave their dog at home for an hour or two maybe they need psychiatric care instead of a dog. 
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« Reply #16 on: February 07, 2025, 01:44:03 AM »
Agree about the psychiatric care. Most people I know that really like their dogs take them with them wherever they go. But most with common sense and a sense of responsibility and comprehension leave them in their vehicle while eating, shopping or whatever. And if it is to hot for them most logical people leave them home. Of course not all people agree on this or for most part agree on anything in this time.
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« Reply #17 on: February 07, 2025, 02:39:23 AM »
sorry if i misunderstood. dees post was about service dogs and i thought thats what was being discussed
Well i guess im sorry they inconvenience you. anyone here a vet??? what were you doing when those soldiers were crawling through mud getting shot at inconveniently for you and your kids. i think a dog on a leash should be any more inconvenient to you than loosing a leg, arm or eye was for them. talk about some silly crap from a bunch of wining women. you should be ashamed.

Oh really? I should be ashamed? My comment was referring to dogs other than service dogs. Which if it isn't a registered service dog the owner has no business taking it into a store or restaurant. If someone gets seriously injured building a bridge for you and your kids to drive your car across. Does that give them a right to take their mutt into a store? If a cop gets shot and seriously injured from protecting the public. Does that give them a right to take their dog anywhere they want? If a fireman gets seriously injured from trying to save your, and your kids home. Does it give them a right to take a dog anywhere they want? Lots of people lose arms, legs eyes, etc.. serving the public. If they can't leave their dog at home for an hour or two maybe they need psychiatric care instead of a dog.
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« Reply #18 on: February 07, 2025, 02:41:58 AM »
my dog goes everywhere with me but stays in the truck. but he IS NOT a service dog and is way far from being trained to be mellow in public.
Agree about the psychiatric care. Most people I know that really like their dogs take them with them wherever they go. But most with common sense and a sense of responsibility and comprehension leave them in their vehicle while eating, shopping or whatever. And if it is to hot for them most logical people leave them home. Of course not all people agree on this or for most part agree on anything in this time.
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« Reply #19 on: February 07, 2025, 02:51:54 AM »
same old dee!! dont dare disagree with him or he will try play the victim or try to get everyone to turn against you. news flash pal. there are NO moderators on this forum except Bill and Matt. have been since he started this forum. the moderator tag was just carried over and would be by your name too if it wouldnt have been taken away from you because you abused the power again do to your GIANT EGO
typical answer from someone that found a way to avoid serving. yes dee you were a cop. when you joined the Viet Nam war was still going. you took a job in your home town by mommy that paid 2 to 3 times as much as you would have made in the service. yes you served those people in that small town or county but you DID NOT serve this country. there were people sleeping in jungles getting shot at by snipers while you took your sweety to the movie friday night. ya before you wine about it not all vets got shot at but all of them had to leave their home towns and mommy. i know a crap pile of cops. couple of them including our county sheriff are some of my best friends. not one of them would try to tell me they became a cop to serve anyone. they took it because it was a decent job that supported their family. Fireman? same thing. up here though 90 percent of them are volunteers. now those guys do it to serve their community. by the way have you never seen a blue lives matter or thin blue line hat or t shirt!! if you were a cop for 20 years id think youd be proud enough to wear a hat. you sure have no problem reminding us all the time ;)  im
 a veteran. did 8 years and am dammed proud of it. you seem to constantly take shots at vets. feeing guilty because you let others go do what you couldnt or wouldnt ::)  im done with this and you. the time away didnt change a thing. your still a biter hateful old a** **** that probably kicks dogs
So because someone joins the military for 4 years, then goes home,  he's now a veteran. Police and firefighters that are considered veterans, usually serve 20 to 30 years. I've never owned or seen a veteran police cap. 8)

It's bizarre thinking that just because they are veterans 4 or so years that the rest of the United States population has to tolerate their pets in grocery stores and eateries. Many think that veteran baseball caps are free passes to privileged behavior.
I respect veterans if they behave respectfully towards other folks rights

The actual truth concerning veterans and combat.

https://www.midwestdisability.com/blog/2019/12/what-percentage-of-soldiers-see-combat/

Same old deal. Different opinion gets ,personal attacks from the resident munchkin "opinion police" with no moderators in site. :)
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« Reply #20 on: February 07, 2025, 03:58:19 AM »
  Some veterans have earned their companion dog, and I would never begrudge such a veteran to bring his dog into a store, restaurant or church
   where I may be.

   https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2392608167491718&id=945480788871137&set=a.1268963443189535&locale=ko_KR

    Some veterans have very deep scars, that cannot be seen.  Often , legitimate companion dogs can be ascertained by their very conduct.

  Genuine companion dogs are trained to be neat, quiet and not unruly.

   ..And yes, I have little patience with those who ride other's genuine needs, in an attempt to gain an unearned pirivilege for themselves and what is
    simply their basic pet...
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« Reply #21 on: February 07, 2025, 04:00:54 AM »
This degenerated quickly. Most of us have no problem with genuine service dogs. I think what most here are talking about are “emotional support animals”. This has been abused in the past, and will continue to ne until there is some sort of universal certification.

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« Reply #22 on: February 07, 2025, 04:19:37 AM »
This degenerated quickly. Most of us have no problem with genuine service dogs. I think what most here are talking about are “emotional support animals”. This has been abused in the past, and will continue to ne until there is some sort of universal certification.

   Exactly what I was referring to..

  "..And yes, I have little patience with those who ride other's genuine needs, in an attempt to gain an unearned pirivilege for themselves and what is
    simply their basic pet..."
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