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AW ban
« on: February 08, 2025, 02:27:37 PM »
When is President Trump going to issue an Executive Order reversing ALL assault weapon and high capacity magazine bans?  This could affect thousands of his supporters and no better way to piss off Blue States.
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Re: AW ban
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2025, 05:27:41 PM »
I'm not aware of any current federal bans on AWs. He can only affect things federal, he can't change state laws by executive action.


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« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2025, 05:43:54 PM »
I have some really big assault meat cleavers that I have no intention of using for hunting… 2 things.
1 define a woman and 2 define assault weapon. I’ll be holding my breath.

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Re: AW ban
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2025, 09:45:59 PM »
Far as I know Trump still hasn't reversed the manufacturing defination changed under Obummer that technically requires an individual or gunsmith to pay ITAR to chamber or thread a barrel for another person.  I was hopeful that he would of addressed it his last term, hopefully he corrects it this time.

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Re: AW ban
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2025, 12:42:14 AM »
the batf needs to be dismantled and just like abortion, gun laws should be a state thing.
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Re: AW ban
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2025, 02:19:46 AM »
Gun laws were already addressed in our Constitution. “The Right to Keep and Bear Arms Shall Not be Infringed Upon” the state and federal govt chooses not to follow our Constitutional Rights…
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Re: AW ban
« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2025, 07:00:57 AM »
The problem that anti gunners have focused on over the years is the part of the second that precedes the oft quoted “shall not be infringed” part. That is where the legal battles are fought.
“A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed”
Anti-gunners pick up on the militia part.

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« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2025, 07:50:00 AM »
The problem that anti gunners have focused on over the years is the part of the second that precedes the oft quoted “shall not be infringed” part. That is where the legal battles are fought.

Anti-gunners pick up on the militia part.

  ..And when the opposition does that, they know full well that they are misreading and misleading..in other words, speaking a lie. Lets look..

  “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed”

   Look at the highlighted words.. The authors were determined that a MILITIA was necessary to maintain a free state..so they thus said that
 therefore, the PEOPLE shall have the right to bear arms.

  If they meant that only the MILITIA should have arms, they would have stated that said MILITIA, rather than the PEOPLE in general, would have
   that guaranteed right.

  ..But no, the writers gave that right to The PEOPLE, rather than to The MILITIA alone.

   Besides, a militia changes it's membership regularly, but the people remain !
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Re: AW ban
« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2025, 10:54:29 AM »
Thank you. I like that, It seems so simple that one wonders why that is so often misinterpreted

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Re: AW ban
« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2025, 01:52:31 AM »
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Re: AW ban
« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2025, 05:16:28 AM »
DDZ, thanks for the link. Hadn't heard that yet. Hopefully something will come of that.

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Re: AW ban
« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2025, 06:53:59 AM »
Y’know…I am reading through the posts in this thread. I am so used to hearing about “militia” that I  paid no attention to what comes directly before “militia”. That is “well regulated”. So. Not just a rabble in arms but a regulated group.
What is your take?

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Re: AW ban
« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2025, 08:21:58 AM »
  Here's how the Heritage Foundation sees it;

  "The Founding generation understood that large standing armies were dangerous threats to liberty, especially when controlled by authoritarian governments who sought to disarm the general population. The militia system, with deep roots in English history, was one way of ensuring that the nation could defend itself against all threats, foreign and domestic. Instead of a large full-time professional army, the government could, when needed, call upon the greater body of armed citizens to employ their personal firearms in the collective defense of the state or nation. A “well-regulated” militia simply meant that the processes for activating, training, and deploying the militia in official service should be efficient and orderly, and that the militia itself should be capable of competently executing battlefield operations."

  One good example of a poorly regulated militia, was the Whiskey Rebellion of 1794.. It seems congress passed an excise tax on whiskey, which was
  especially punishing on those distillers in the hinterlands, greatly irritating those of the Appalachains in western Pennsylvania..

  These farmers (grain growers) and distillers were soon "up in arms".  A grass roots militia formed and raised havoc, until Pres Washington sent
  in federal troops; the president himself, leading a portion of them as far as Bedford..near the neighborhood of his experiences during the French & Indian war.

  The rebellion was put down, but it was rather just anger and the hap-hazard, quickly formed, militia (IMO) soon dispersed.
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Re: AW ban
« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2025, 09:09:32 AM »
     During colonial America, all able-bodied men of a certain age range were members of the militia, depending on each colony's rule.
 Individual towns formed local independent militias for their own defense.
   



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Re: AW ban
« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2025, 05:34:07 PM »
I've been under the impression that it is and has been illegal to shoot someone without justified reason. with, or without an auto weapon.  Incremental law making would not stop anyone who was intent on doing the deed.  Most shootings are probably not done with full auto firearms outside of military action and even if all firearms were removed, there are so many other lethal things that can be just as deadly and much easier to obtain.  Firearms whether full auto, semi auto, or whatever, probably discourage violence and shooting more often than we'll ever know.  Imagine if the bad guys were pretty sure most households have no effective means of self-defense.  I don't think it should ever be the business of government to remove the most practical means of self-defense, whether it be single shot, semi auto, full auto, or what have you. 

I came up in the age when my buddy and I could walk down the streets of town and I mean downtown with our rifles over shoulders at the ripe old age of twelve and folks never gave a second look.  I don't know what kind of excitement that would stimulate these days, but I'm pretty sure it wouldn't go un-noticed.
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Re: AW ban
« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2025, 05:43:25 PM »
Did that myself while I was in college. The machinist at the lab I worked in did some work on one of my rifles and then I had to carry it across Omaha to pick up my car from the repair shop. As you say, almost certainly couldn't do it unnoticed today. Probably would at least get stopped and questioned no matter what community you live it.

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Re: AW ban
« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2025, 10:13:58 PM »
where is the liberal outrage over young girls being raped and killed (without so called assault rifles) by illegals they let freely come into our neighborhoods.
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Re: AW ban
« Reply #17 on: February 14, 2025, 12:26:39 AM »
where is the liberal outrage over young girls being raped and killed (without so called assault rifles) by illegals they let freely come into our neighborhoods.

Likewise where is the lefts outrage over all the deaths from fentanyl that has been pouring into this country from China. The answer is they don't care, because it doesn't fit an agenda. Its something that rapists, murders, and fentanyl don't make the boogeyman list of leftists, but firearms do.
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Re: AW ban
« Reply #18 on: February 14, 2025, 01:09:51 AM »
Look at the jump in fentanyl deaths under the guy who is now going to save us from fentanyl :)

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« Reply #19 on: February 14, 2025, 01:15:47 AM »
Look at the jump in fentanyl deaths under the guy who is now going to save us from fentanyl :)

Maybe you could take your crayon out and make it more shady like in the past…

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Re: AW ban
« Reply #20 on: February 14, 2025, 09:26:04 AM »
Look at the jump in fentanyl deaths under the guy who is now going to save us from fentanyl :)

  Sure genius !  ..And the completely open borders had nothing to do with the exponentially greater numbers of fentanyl deaths since then.

  Note; In 2022 the fentanyl deaths topped at about 70 thousand... then the tyrants opened the border, and we hear, even on the alphabet networks,
  that there are over 180 thouisand deaths per year.

  Let's do the math..if fentanyl deaths simply DOUBLED  that would be 140 thousand deaths !  So, continuing the math.. at 180 thousand fentanyl
   deaths, they are now 2&1/2 times the 2022 deaths, with another 5 thousand left over as a Biden bonus...
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Re: AW ban
« Reply #21 on: February 15, 2025, 02:23:13 AM »
Haha! Back to pulling bogus data from your horses butt :)
Fentanyl deaths went down in 2023 and 2024.

https://www.progressivepolicy.org/u-s-drug-overdose-deaths-down-21-7-from-2023-to-2024/

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Re: AW ban
« Reply #22 on: February 15, 2025, 02:28:45 AM »
Haha! Back to pulling bogus data from your horses butt :)
Fentanyl deaths went down in 2023 and 2024.

https://www.progressivepolicy.org/u-s-drug-overdose-deaths-down-21-7-from-2023-to-2024/

And you expect us to believe that BS from a centrist democratic institution?  How could more fentanyl poring across the border result in fewer fenanyl deaths? You need to use some common sense once in awhile instead of reading BS on leftist websites.   
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