Author Topic: us sniper rifle (Read 811 times)

rickyp · « **on:** March 27, 2004, 03:21:37 PM »

what is the current caliber(s) for US sniper rifles?
how long are the barrels and what is the diameter?

1911crazy · « **Reply #1 on:** March 28, 2004, 12:39:34 AM »

Watching the sniper school on the history channel they said the recievers are made by remington, the caliber looks to be 300win mag. and the barrel length I'm not sure of but magnum barrels are 24" to 26" I can't see the barrel any longer due to the gun being too long. BigBill

savageT · « **Reply #2 on:** March 28, 2004, 02:57:09 AM »

Hey, I may be all wet but I thought the military used Remington 700's or a special version of a 700 receiver in cal .308 for snipers?

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Jim

azshooter · « **Reply #3 on:** March 28, 2004, 03:50:14 AM »

Army uses these
http://www.remingtonle.com/rifle/m24.htm

The Marines build their own
http://www.snipercentral.com/m40a3.htm

NH_Hunter · « **Reply #4 on:** March 28, 2004, 05:47:23 AM »

Calibers are 7.62x51 NATO ( .308 Win), or .50 BMG ( cant remember the NATO nomenclature for it). The US Army uses the M24 (.308) and the M82 (.50 BMG) and the marine corps last time i checked only used the m40a3 (.308). Hope this helps.

NH_Hunter

1911crazy · « **Reply #5 on:** March 28, 2004, 12:12:57 PM »

In the sniper school they were making/assembling their own rifles using remington recievers and some other brand barrel. It wasn't an off the shelf sniper bought rifle. They also showed their own on base gunsmith shop making the guns. The case was a belted magnum I think the guy said it was in 300win.mag. The bullet was longer and the case was larger than an '06. BigBill

Badnews Bob · « **Reply #6 on:** March 28, 2004, 05:05:54 PM »

They have a few 300 win mags but 95% are standard 7.62 Nato Remington supplies the complete rifle but those guys work them to there own specs. They use to just use the rem action but the factory got on the ball and supplies those guys with the best. Those are H&S Precission stocks also. The .50 BMGs are Barretts and autoloaders at that. most of the time they only use standard ball ammo in them, John Browning was the man.

A canadian sharp shooter took out a truck driver at over 3000 meters over in Iraq last year with one, Now thats reaching out and touching someone.

rickyp · « **Reply #7 on:** March 29, 2004, 01:17:26 AM »

don't they have a few in 223 as well?
I know a lot of police SWAT uses them as well as the 308.

does anyone know how I can get a set of the spects for the marine rifles?

1911crazy · « **Reply #8 on:** March 29, 2004, 01:43:03 AM »

Quote from: rickyp

don't they have a few in 223 as well?
I know a lot of police SWAT uses them as well as the 308.

does anyone know how I can get a set of the spects for the marine rifles?

I never seen a sniper in 223 the larger caliber takes out the bad guy much quicker the smallest i seen is 308 but i have seen them up to 338win. mag. too. When we look at the ballistics of the 338win.mag. it still has the muzzle energy of the 30-06 at 200yds and now with the new Remington 338 ultra mag its 1,000ft lbs higher over the 338 win. mag. These big bore magnums have some awesome power in long range shots and pinpoint accuracy too. Me and my brother were play around one day and we were making long shots and I hit a 15" tree that was about 170 yds away with my 338win. mag. and when we walked up to it and my brother said i missed it until we looked at the back of it, i blew out the back of it and it was shattered on the exit side.

rickyp · « **Reply #9 on:** March 29, 2004, 04:11:55 AM »

the 223 may be something just in my area then. the officers I have talked to are concerned with over penetration and roaches more then with extream ranges

Mikey · « **Reply #10 on:** March 29, 2004, 05:25:59 AM »

I always thought the caliber was 308. They never used the 223 in a sniper and although some of our troops carry the M-16 scoped, that's not the sniper rifle.

I also read where they have been using some in a 300 mag caliber and there are some rifles chambered for the 338 but I believe our mainstay is the rem 700 in 308, or the XM21 system (M-14, scoped and silenced). Mikey.

S.S. · « **Reply #11 on:** March 29, 2004, 05:56:26 AM »

A Remington MDL 700 receiver with a custom Barrel.
These are in 7.62x51.
There are also scoped variations of the M-16 A2
that are scoped for shorter range sniping/fire support roles.
As I Understand it, the .50 "Light Fifty" is not a sniper rifle.
It is considered an AMW (Anti Material Weapon).
So drop a few troops armed with them close to an air field
and you can disable most of the aircraft on the field before
the enemy knows what is happening. Disable the weapon,
leave it there and get outa' there!!!
Quite cost effective a plane or two and a few radar dishes for a rifle!!!
So it isn't a Sniper rifle :lol:
As I think that using the .50 cal. Browning size cartridges
as a direct fire weapon against personel is a violation of the
Geneva Convention! (So our Snipers missed the tanks and hit the commanders who we poking their heads up out of the hatch!
OOPS!!!) :-D

hillbilly · « **Reply #12 on:** April 29, 2004, 11:40:43 AM »

As I think that using the .50 cal. Browning size cartridges
as a direct fire weapon against personel is a violation of the
Geneva Convention! (So our Snipers missed the tanks and hit the commanders who we poking their heads up out of the hatch!
OOPS!!!)
two or three quick points: 1 the U.S Navy SEALs use the 300win
2 the U.S. never sighed the Geneva Convention
3 the Canadian military uses the 7.62 nato as their standard sniper round in rem 700, and the barret 50 extensivly last year in afganastan a Canadian sniper shot and killed an AL queda fighter at 2645 yards.
just my two cents(about $0.04 american

rickyp · « **Reply #13 on:** April 29, 2004, 01:00:13 PM »

what is that in miles

hillbilly · « **Reply #14 on:** April 30, 2004, 04:55:00 PM »

danged if i know you yanks are the only ones still using miles. up here in the great white north we've converted to kilometers but funny thing is our roads are still set at every mile east\west and two miles north south and i have no idea how many centimeters tall i am or how many kilograms i weigh.

1911crazy · « **Reply #15 on:** May 01, 2004, 02:36:48 AM »

The metric system is a more exact way of measuring like 5,280ft in a mile that sure makes sense?? I wonder who, why and how they came up with only 5,280ft in a mile why"280"?? And 25.4 milimeters to 1" inch. To convert " inches to metric or metric to inches its either multiply by 25.4 or divide by 25.4 and then its meters and yards too. So our youngins need to know two measuring systems. Its not just miles and kilo's is it? BigBill

I can remember when the american car had three metric threads; the steering wheel nut, the generator pully nut and the front wheel bearing nut were all metric so nothing else would interchange so the wrong nut couldn't possibly be put on. It was probably the first Idiot proof thing ever done.

Big Blue · « **Reply #16 on:** May 01, 2004, 04:16:54 AM »

Back in the early 80's I had bought a Rem. 700 BDL Police Sniper after seeing one on my dealers shelf that had been ordered by the local police. It was a special order at that time and came in .308 Win. with a oil finished walnut stock and parkerized finish. It was the most accurate rifle I've ever owned, right out of the box. I could shoot handloaded 168 gr. bullets into a quarter size group at 200 yards. This was prior to the laminate and synthetic stock crazes, so I believe it would now come with a synthetic stock.
Don

securitysix · « **Reply #17 on:** May 03, 2004, 09:40:48 AM »

A lot of SWAT and police units use .223 chambered rifles for precision work for 2 reasons.

1. Shots are almost always (if not always) less than 100 yards. The .223 is still effective at this range.

2. Penetration is reduced by using a smaller round, thus reducing the risk to innocent bystanders.

The military won't use .223 as a sniper weapon because it loses too much of it's terminal performance, especially once it gets past about 300 yards (it might make 400 out of a 26" barrel).

As far as what our guys are using, as pointed out, the Army uses the M-24 (a souped up Remington 700) while the Marines use the M-40 (originally based on either the Remington 700 or Winchester Model 70, I can't recall which). They also BOTH use the Barrett M82A1. The Marine Corps just call it the M82A1 while the Army is calling it the XM-107 (per the article in American Rifleman a couple of months ago).