:grin: Went back to the range with the 45-70. Took the scope off untill I round up one with more eye relief. The gun Zeroed in at fifty yards with just one adjustment to the right and left. At fifty yards with the Federal 300 Grain Speer Hot Core, it shot two almost in the same hole about 2 inches high. At one hundred yards it was dead center right and left and about two inches low. I quess I will sey it about three inches high at fifty and that should have it right on at 100 and not to low at 150 yards. I will load some hand loads for it next and some reduced loads for plinking. From what I have heard from all 45-70 owners in the NEF's they are quite accurate.