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Glock Switch
« on: February 24, 2025, 01:14:37 AM »
Blue states are suing Glock, saying that Glock has contributed to the gun violence crises. Instead of blue states, and the ATF arresting criminals in cities that convert Glocks to fully automatic they are blaming gun manufactures again. Maryland being the latest state to file lawsuit against Glock. Maryland is one of the states that a licensed citizen with a CCP can not enter the state with a firearm.  The ATF has been harassing law abiding citizens, but fail to go after real gun crimes in inner cities. 

 https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2025/02/the_glock_switch_distraction.html

February 23, 2025
The Glock switch distraction
By Mike McDaniel
On January 1 of 2024, AT posted Glock switches: let the buyer beware. In that article I wrote:

A “Glock Switch” is a small device that replaces the slide-in plate at the back of a Glock’s slide. It supposedly allows slide-in, fully automatic fire. Glock does make an automatic pistol, the Glock 18, which is a Glock 17 with a selector lever on the rear of the slide on the left side. Properly used by competent shooters, which means firing 2-3 round bursts, the 18 is entirely controllable. What we don’t know is how many of these devices are in circulation and how many have been used in crimes. We also don’t know if they work like a G18, or if pulling the trigger must empty the magazine. In any case, no one wants criminals or terrorists in possession of any such thing.

In that article I also noted most, if not all, Glock switches are provided by China, and most offerings appear to be either scams or ATF entrapment schemes. Possession of any single part involved in converting a semiautomatic firearm to fully automatic fire is treated the same as possession of an illegal machinegun. Glock does not market Glock switches or any other means to convert their handguns to fully automatic fire. It sells the Glock 18 only to lawfully eligible agencies like militaries or the police, not individuals, and to the sane can’t be liable for illegal alterations of their guns about which they have no knowledge nor over which they have no control.

That fundamental principle of criminal and tort law, however, doesn’t stop the ATF or anti-liberty/gun blue states like Maryland, which is suing Glock, which dominates the world handgun market:

Earlier this week, Maryland Attorney General Anthony Brown and Baltimore Mayor Brandon Scott filed the lawsuit. According to a report at Cbsnews.com, the lawsuit alleges that Glock violated the state’s Gun Industry Accountability Act and contributed to the “gun violence crisis” (anti-gun code for blaming guns for criminal violence).

“Since 1990, Glock has manufactured a pistol that can easily be converted into a machine gun,” Brown told the news outlet.

In response to that lawsuit, Glock has noted it isn’t responsible for Glock switches and can’t redesign its products to render what are already illegal devices unable to produce automatic fire. Glock also notes it’s not their fault criminals, who violate federal law merely by possessing such devices, use them to commit crimes. As one might expect, other blue states are on the anti-liberty/gun anti-Glock bandwagon:

Incidentally, Baltimore and Maryland aren’t the only ones targeting Glock. Last December, AGs from New Jersey and Minnesota also sued the company over criminals using “Glock switches” to make the guns full-auto. Earlier in the year, Chicago also filed such a suit, accusing Glock of contributing to the city’s runaway violence.

These attempts are a clear violation of the 2005, truly bi-partisan, Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act (PLCAA), which prevents lawsuits against manufacturers of guns and ammunition. Anti-liberty/gun organizations hit on the death-by-a-thousand- cuts method of suing gun and ammo makers for the criminal misuse of their lawful products. Even if manufacturers won every suit, legal fees would bankrupt them, which was the intention of anti-liberty/gun cracktivists in 2005 just as it’s their intention in suing Glock now.

Joe Biden’s handlers lied, arguing the PLCAA gives manufacturers complete immunity, but they can be sued as can any manufacturer for negligence and other traditional torts. Unfortunately, blue states are rife with leftist judges more than willing to bankrupt gun makers by ignoring or manipulating the few exceptions to the PLCAA

Federal law requires that semiautomatic guns not be readily convertible to fully automatic fire, but anyone with the right parts and even rudimentary tools can do such conversions. Skilled machinists can make the parts and have the professional tools to do the job properly. It is no small thing to completely redesign any handgun mechanism, and Glock’s design is among the most reliable, effective and safe designs on the market. Glock pioneered the design, which virtually every manufacturer has copied. Successfully suing Glock could open the door to suing every gun maker on similar grounds.

These blue state suits are also an attempt at distraction and misdirection. Blue states and cities are havens for criminals. They have persecuted and hamstrung their police, abolished bail, and prosecute only a tiny portion of all crimes. Admitting their policies are not only wrong but deadly is a bridge too far. How can intellectually and morally superior beings admit error? Their policies, like themselves, are perfect, non-falsifiable. Better to blame their failings on Glock.

Congress should revisit the PLCAA to eliminate any possible path to blue state abuse. With Donald Trump in the White House and Republicans in control of congress, that’s at least possible.
Those people who will not be governed by God will be ruled by tyrants.    Wm. Penn

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Re: Glock Switch
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2025, 02:40:49 AM »
Ya know.....it occurs to me that all those liberal lawyers and judges out themselves when they take these cases and allow them to proceed in court.  Judges do have to discretionary authority to not allow a case to proceed if there's no basis for a case, or disallows such a proceeding.

Seems to me that the (new) DOJ needs to start investigating those people that allow such "proceedings" to go any further than the initial review.  Look into their net worth, and how they got there.

Just an observation.....Roger
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Re: Glock Switch
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2025, 04:00:46 AM »
Asinine thought process of the left..  So, some dude makes a switch which makes the Glock more effective !  Go after the one who is making the after market part.

  If some entrepreneur comes out with a new steering device that makes the Ford F-150 a more dangerous vehicle...don't sue Ford, sue that guy
  who makes the aftermarket device.

  ..But of course, that would simply be the results of "common sense thinking", something of which the left is in short supply .
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Re: Glock Switch
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2025, 06:50:06 AM »
Asinine thought process of the left..  So, some dude makes a switch which makes the Glock more effective !  Go after the one who is making the after market part.

  If some entrepreneur comes out with a new steering device that makes the Ford F-150 a more dangerous vehicle...don't sue Ford, sue that guy
  who makes the aftermarket device.

  ..But of course, that would simply be the results of "common sense thinking", something of which the left is in short supply .

Actually they are doing exactly what their intentions are which is to put gun manufacturers and retailers out of business just like the mom and pop stores during the dempanic…
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Re: Glock Switch
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2025, 06:52:18 AM »
Asinine thought process of the left..  So, some dude makes a switch which makes the Glock more effective !  Go after the one who is making the after market part.

  If some entrepreneur comes out with a new steering device that makes the Ford F-150 a more dangerous vehicle...don't sue Ford, sue that guy
  who makes the aftermarket device.

  ..But of course, that would simply be the results of "common sense thinking", something of which the left is in short supply .

Actually they are doing exactly what their intentions are which is to put gun manufacturers and retailers out of business just like the mom and pop stores during the dempanic…

  Yes!  ..And they made it perfectly clear when they tried to sue gun makers when some nut used a car or truck to run people over !
If you don't want the truth, don't ask me.  If you want something sugar coated...go eat a donut !  (anon)
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Re: Glock Switch
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2025, 10:21:44 AM »
It is actually not that hard to make a 1911 turn into a multi-shot repeater, if one has kowledge of the system.

Not good for the gun but it can be done.
All the Gov. has to do is make selling what it takes to make a gun go full auto not a good idea is, make it a crime that puts one in prison for 20 years, and a fine big enough that they are totally bankrupted.

The ATF has become the stassi in the past for lessor - possible -  infringement of rules, so,  it should not be hard to do this, IF , any one really cares.