Florida State University Shooting

[Dee]

All those adult college students but, guess who had a gun in the crowd?

THE SHOOTER OF COURSE.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2025/04/18/fsu-shooting-phoenix-ikner-updates/83153752007/

[GTS225]

Hell of a FAILURE on the law enforcement father of the shooter, ain't it?

Roger

[ironglow]

Hell of a FAILURE on the law enforcement father of the shooter, ain't it?

Roger

  Not quite the way I see it.  Putting myself in the deputy mom's place, I can understand how she could leave her handgun where her 20 year old son could find it !
  Sorry, but in my house guns were available to both my sons...and they had their own also.  I see nothing unusual for an adult child, living in the same
  home, having access to family owned guns.

  There seems to be nothing to indicate that this young man showed any clues as to his intent.

  How many of you guys make sure your guns are "locked away" from your late teen or adult children, living or visiting in your home ?

  As for me, having trained them proper usage and safety all their young lives, I felt comfortable with my sons having access to the family gun cabinet.

[Dee]

Hell of a FAILURE on the law enforcement father of the shooter, ain't it?

Roger

  Not quite the way I see it.  Putting myself in the deputy mom's place, I can understand how she could leave her handgun where her 20 year old son could find it !
  Sorry, but in my house guns were available to both my sons...and they had their own also.  I see nothing unusual for an adult child, living in the same
  home, having access to family owned guns.

  There seems to benothing to inmdicate that this young man showed and clues as to his intent.

  How many of you guys make sure your guns are "locked away" from your late teen or adult children, living or visiting in your home ?

  As for me, having trained them proper usage and safety all their young lives, i felt comfortable with my sons having access to the family gun cabinet.

Same here.

[Bob Riebe]

     At 20 years old, had the firearm been locked away, I have zero doubt that the young man would not have access to it.
Some people are born with bad traits, nothing can change that, I am speaking from personal experience.

At that, nowadays, they are not subject to rules and regulations we had aa children and young adults, snot faced punks, from an early age are allowed to , or even encouraged to be the the little asses they are.

[ironglow]

  It seems there may be many guns floating around the "hood' in unlicensed/unregistered hands.  They didn't get them from Dad, if Dad wasn't
   in the home in the first place.

  Conclusion; if a sick mind wants a gun..the sick mind will get a gun. 

  These sick minds seem to have developed exponentially over the last 2-3 decades.  Perhaps sociologists should start looking at the fixation upon
  violent video games, internet connections, satanic cyber sites and the ease of connections between violence prone individuals.

  ..But then, much money is made by way of these connections..so don't expect any breakthrough "discoveries' at any time soon.

[Dee]

     At 20 years old, had the firearm been locked away, I have zero doubt that the young man would not have access to it.
Some people are born with bad traits, nothing can change that, I am speaking from personal experience.

At that, nowadays, they are not subject to rules and regulations we had aa children and young adults, snot faced punks, from an early age are allowed to , or even encouraged to be the the little asses they are.

Thats right. Lock all the guns up and blame the parents. Doesn't matter if the shooter was an adult. It's the gun owners fault. The shooter was an innocent trigger puller.

[Bob Riebe]

     At 20 years old, had the firearm been locked away, I have zero doubt that the young man would not have access to it.
Some people are born with bad traits, nothing can change that, I am speaking from personal experience.

At that, nowadays, they are not subject to rules and regulations we had aa children and young adults, snot faced punks, from an early age are allowed to , or even encouraged to be the the little asses they are.

Thats right. Lock all the guns up and blame the parents. Doesn't matter if the shooter was an adult. It's the gun owners fault. The shooter was an innocent trigger puller.

Read what I said again.
He would have gotten it locked up or not.

[GTS225]

You completely missed my point.  If that "father" had actually taught his son some reasonably decent standards of conduct, then the event would have never taken place.
It ain't that hard to to tell your kids things that you DON'T do in society, and back up the preaching with behavior to support the teaching.

The LEO father is still a failure.

Roger

  Not quite the way I see it.  Putting myself in the deputy mom's place, I can understand how she could leave her handgun where her 20 year old son could find it !
  Sorry, but in my house guns were available to both my sons...and they had their own also.  I see nothing unusual for an adult child, living in the same
  home, having access to family owned guns.

  There seems to be nothing to indicate that this young man showed any clues as to his intent.

  How many of you guys make sure your guns are "locked away" from your late teen or adult children, living or visiting in your home ?

  As for me, having trained them proper usage and safety all their young lives, I felt comfortable with my sons having access to the family gun cabinet.

[Graybeard]

The father isn't the one who was an LEO, the mother is and she is technically a step mother. This guy was caught in the middle of a custody battle between his parents for years. He is also not quite right in the head and they've known it since he was quite young.

With what they knew of him and his mental state he should never have been allowed near a gun.