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Offline BIGBOREFAN

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« on: March 29, 2004, 02:12:08 AM »
Went to dunhams to look at their M44 but the number did not match and the stocks were really beat up. I seen what looked like a M44 with out the bayonet. I looked at it and low and behold it was a M38 with all matching #'s and the stock was in really good shape the bore has really good rifling. It was made in 1944 it was not made at the Tulane plant but the other plant (Can not remember the name of the other plant) I took all the varnish of the stock with brake cleaner and cut the stock off at the first barrel band and then started putting Linseed oil on it. I need to put a couple more coats on it. I know I probally should not have cut it but I can get a really good stock if I want to put it back original. Know let me tell you for a 60 year old gun it shoots really good. With a crude rest at 50 yards groups were around 1 1/2. Which is not bad for the sights on these guns. I wanted one for a beater and truck gun. Can not waite till I can get some 200 grain SP Wolfe ammo. All, but the way I paid 129.00 for it. The one for 79.95 I would not have paid 50.00 for.


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« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2004, 03:08:08 PM »
BBF,
  Congrats on your first mil-surp! The M38 was my first, about a month ago. Great guns for the money. The first 5 shots out of the gun grouped at 1.25" at 50 yards using Czech silver tip from 1962. I got my second MN this past weekend, a M1891/30. I haven't shot this one yet. I also bought some more ammo for them, at $2.00 a box. How can you go wrong?
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« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2004, 03:13:47 AM »
BBf,

Congrats'.  Got one before I did.  Those M44 were beat at Dunham's.  I am sure you went to the one in Morgantown.

Glad you liked it.  I will have to go back and take another look.

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« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2004, 04:14:11 AM »
Hey Cracker :D  Ya the M44's were pretty ragged and yes I did go to the one in Morgantown. I think I got lucky on the M38, unless they had more in the back. My next purchase will be one that is already customized. They have the Ram-line synthetic stock and scout mount for 169.95. Which really is not that bad because the stock is around 62.00 and the mount is 55.00 and then you buy a gun in nice shape for say 90.00 You would have 207.00 in it. So 169.95 sounds pretty reasonable and cheap shooting to boot.


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« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2004, 04:47:08 AM »
BIGBOREFAN:  Good on ya, those beasties can shoot very well indeed.  You said this one did not have the bayonet on it - on my brother's M44 we took the bayonet off and ground down the bayonet attachment and she shot much better than she first did.  Then I bedded the stock and that little beast would group under an inch at 50 yds with 10 shots of rapid fire S&B ammo in 200 gn.  

You can always use those for 'beaters or truck guns', but don't sell them short - they are rugged and can be quite acurate.  Once scoped, they can be as accurate as a new hunting rifle and there is nothing to take a back seat to with a 200 gn 30 caliber bullet at near 2400'/sec (have to check on that velocity).  My brother bought his as a 'beater' to hunt hog with down south because the 308 he had wasn't 'eyeball' accurate with 180 grainers unless he loaded them to accuracy speeds, which aren't all that great.  His 7.62x54R outshot that 308, and that was all she wrote about that tale.   Mikey.

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« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2004, 05:19:35 AM »
Mikey the one I bought was a M38. The M38 did not have the bayonet fixed to the barrel like the M44. From what I have gathered. Yeah you sure can not beat these guns. I for sure will get the scout model that is already customized. It looks really cool.


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« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2004, 10:13:47 AM »
I think I'll be ordering an m38 from Aztec soon myself.  I just ordered a Swiss K31 though, so I'll need to wait 3 or 4 weeks before getting the Mosin Nagant.  I did check one out at a local gunshop when I was buying reloading supplies though, and it seemed great.  Certainly felt like a nice solid rifle.  Having just seen pictures and the $39 price tag of some of the carbines online, I had I guess subliminally gotten the impression that they were fragile or something.  After holding one those doubts are gone.

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« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2004, 12:34:56 PM »
BBF,
  Your right, the M38 was never designed to have a bayonet. I don't think they were meant for infantry. Mines a 1943, from the Izshevk( or something like that) factory. It  came with a laminated stock that had no dents or dings, but I still refinished it using tung oil and now it looks like it's a year old at most. As well made as these rifles are, I can just imagine what the price tag would be if these were produced new today.
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« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2004, 05:21:33 AM »
It's amazing that doing a World War in their backyard they could turn out such quality so fast in that time era. Yeah if they were being produced today they would cost alot more.

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