Just picked a new one at a gunshow from a dealer for 375.00 took it out to the range yesterday and shot a ragged hole with it. I guess I went through about 60 rounds shooting against my sons model 21 glock. I have the model thats about commander size I guess. I love it four stars!!! Not a single problem, (with hard ball that is)!!! I really enjoyed shooting it, probably the best accuracy I have ever achieved with a 45, out of the box That includes colt, springfield, thompson, para ordenance (straight models)