Muzzleloader menace

[Shorty]

Anyway, as I was saying at the Traditional Muzzleloading page, this guy shows up in my yard, out of the blue, while I'm zeroing a new rifle.  He says, "You can't shoot here, legally".  I say, "Yes, Sir, I can.  I'm more than 100 yards from the road, and I have more that 5 acres of land".  I added, "You can see what I'm shooting into (a pile of pine logs behind my target frame), and there are no houses behind that for a quarter-mile of woods".  He says, "You must have consideration because my wife objects to the noise". I says, "I have enough consideration by not shooting on Sunday, a day of rest, but on Saterday, unless you can direct me to a shooting range within 50 miles of here, I reserve my right".  He says, "But, be considerate".  I said, "If your wife fears the sound of gunfire, you're living in the wrong place, because I hear it all around".  He sputters some more.  I said,"If you don't like it, go to the courthouse and try to get the law changed". I then continued my practice.  Lord knows, this area is being built-up quickly, and the day will come when I really can't shoot in my own back-yard!  

[jh45gun]

I Could be PC and say ask the guy to join you and make a friend and not a enemy but I do not know if I could do that my self. I guess if he came on my land and said that and I only have .5 acre he would be walking off with a boot or a gun  barrel stuck up his posterior!! I agree with you as long as it is in reasonable hours than folks have to learn to put up with the noise.  During the day I hear loud trucks and cars and motor cycles and lots of other noise but you have to live with it if you live in the city. Where I used to live you could hear the county rifle range on the days they shot but no one objected as far as I know. Sounds like the woman is anti gun and the guy showed up just to appease her from the tone of his words it does not sound like he was too reved up but then I was not there so I do not know. You did not say he was getting too nasty with you but then I suppose I would not say a whole lot to a guy with a gun in his hands either      I do have to say one thing the anti gunners always look for a way to object to guns or gun use. In my area a guy wanted to build a private trap range on his property and resort/ bar. He was denied the permit to build it as the neighbors objected it would be too noisy as it was on a lake. So I guess in this day and age even on your own property they can get you for making too much noise. Jim

[Jack Crevalle]

Isn't it interesting how anti-gun types always resort to lying. First the guy comes up and says he can't shoot there legally and finally he gets to the crux of it. It reminds me of when I was listening to a police scanner one day and they had a complaint from a woman who claimed that there was shooting coming from a local range and that they had "lost their permit". I knew for a fact that wasn't true and I bet it she was asked where she got this tidbit she couldn't come up with a reasonable answer. Did the police arrest her for making a false report? I doubt it.

[Will Bison]

Good grief Charlie Brown, on 5 acres how close can the next house be? At that distance a gunshot won't produce more than 60-70 DB.

I live in a rural area and the dirt bikes and ATV's make a lot more noise than the shooters.

[Shorty]

What really blew my mind was, this guy, who was probably 60 years old, was wearing a winter parka in 60 deg. weather, and after traversing some thousand feet of thick woods and a running stream, was sweating like a ...

In the past, I've had (new) neighbors call the sheriff on me, reporting "shots fired".  The deputy shows up and says that it's OK, and he'll tell those people to "live with it".
 Still, it's disconcerting, because I've had serious neighbor problems in the distant past.  Enough that my wife kept a .45ACP handy while I worked nights.  I don't need that again!

[Ramrod]

Shorty, I have had this problem also, next day I just took out my old CAR, (shorty AR-15), the noise is frightening, to say the least. Was told that the shotguns and muzzleloaders weren't so bad after all.  I can be a real A-hole when I have to. :lol:
Ramrod

[Shorty]

Ramrod,
Oh, You're BAD!  That guy thought I was shooting a "high-power" rifle.  I showed the Hawken to him and said, "You call this a high-power rifle?"  I did consider bringing out the '06, but I'm not like you!  :lol:  :lol:

[MOGorilla]

A friend of mine recently bought 60 acres in the country, he has a few horses.  The guy who lives next door is a recreational shooter.  Started shooting on a Saturday afternoon.  My buddy, a real city boy, freaks out and goes to talk to the neighbor.  He informed the guy that it was illegal to shoot if you weren't hunting- a fact he thought was true- and it was scaring the horses.  They guy had a huge berm made for shooting, it was the safer than most ranges I've seen.  The neighbor didn't take kindly to being bossed around on his property (my buddy is not tactful and always thinks he's right).  Anyway, he met his match.  The man tells him to leave immediately, pointing at a no trespassing sign, or he'll call the sherrif.  Well, my buddy does a hasty retreat, and decides to go to the sherrif.  The neighbor had already called and complained.   The sherrif tells my buddy deal with it or move back to the city and if he harrasses his neighbor again, charges will be filed.  He must have really shot his mouth off, anyway, he doesn't bother his neighbors anymore.

[Mikey]

These situations and people seem to occur all over the country.  truly, some people move to the country and grow hemorroids whenever they hear the sounds of shooting, and it is neither fun for them or for the property owners who have been shooting on their own lands for generations.  Yet, it's sort of like buying property near an airport - I'll betcha dollars to doughnuts that most properties are viewed when the airplanes are neither landing or taking off.  Same with the country - I doubt those properties are shown whenever Ol Jeb is out sportin' with his rifle.  

I've had neighbors flat out tell me it's illegal to shoot where I live, until I show them two signs - one that says PRIVATE PROPERTY - NO TRESPASSING  and the second which is posted directly beneath it that says  DANGER - HIGH POWER RIFLE RANGE - DO NOT TRESPASS.  Then it becomes one of those 'ooops, I didn't know'.  Most of my neighbors are either smart enough or considerate enough to apologize for a mistake - some however are buttsniffs and need a good runnin' off or an 'on the spot' cell phone call to the town Police and the Sheriff.  

The ones who really get me are the ones who will trespass on their snowmobiles while you are shooting long ranges and stand in front of my dang targets wonderin' where the hay the holes came from.  Now I know some of you folk are gonna say - Ooooooooooooo Mikey, that could be real tempting - and it sure is but........... We all know what is right and wrong, or else we wouldn't be complaining about being wronged.  And we all have a higher standard than they do, or we would have done something else.  At least with the law on our side they cannot simply menace you/us and then walk away feeling holier than thou - they can feel menaced all they want and have to live with it....................... (just wait until opening day morning when the sun comes up.  LOL).  Mikey.

[Mikey]

Hay shorty - I forgot to ask one very important question - is your muzzleloader a 50 caliber or better - if so I know that the Kalifornika Kommies and the New Yawk Liberal Lipbiters are gonna put that smokepole on the wanted list for being a 50 caliber rifle.  LOL.  Mikey.

[Shorty]

Mikey,
This rifle brings my battery of muzzleloaders (rifles) to two .50's and one .58.    
That numb c--t politician in NJ who didn't know the difference between a .50 BMG and a .50 Hawken chose to withdraw her bill once she got wised-up.  I was unaware that similar measures were pending anywhere else.

[Jack Crevalle]

It's not just shooting that bothers these idiots. We have people here who move into a neighborhood next to a farm, with a BIG, OBVIOUS, BARN, to be "out in the country" and then complain about the smell of manure.

One neighbor in my old neighborhood moved out of the city and called the fire department because a skunk sprayed in back of her house.

A friend sent me an article about a guy who had butchered deer in his yard for several years and then this lawyer moves into his neighborhood and his wife sees it. I know the area. It ain't the Soho district. But Mr. Lawyer wants a law outlawing "processing of meat" in his neighborhood.

People like these need to spend a few months in a third world country to bring them back to reality.

[Ramrod]

The ones who really get me are the ones who will trespass on their snowmobiles while you are shooting long ranges and stand in front of my dang targets wonderin' where the hay the holes came from.   Mikey.

The holes in their Snowmobiles? :eek:
And Shorty says I'm bad! :-D

[Shorty]

Update;
I was out, puttering around the yard today and heard GUNSHOTS from another direction! :eek:   I could just picture my "aquaintance" seething, and half expected him to come to investigate me!     I didn't get the chance to laugh at him. :roll:

[MATLOCK12C]

From reading these post's and my own personal experence I can tell you all there IS nothing more DANGEROUS than a so called "CONSERNED CITIZEN"  :shock:  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:
They are minding everyones bizness but there own!  :devil2:

[El Confederado]

Shorty,
Next time this old boy comes by, stuff the rifle up his a$$ and tell him it is from a buddy of yours, El Confederado.