I agree, Summit has my vote. Prior to my cobra I used a API climber. This one had a chain around the tree. Not bad till the plastic wears off then it's noiseier thsan you want,belive me. I bought the replacement plastic covers for the chain but they wear out quick and are a pain top put on. Then I noticed something on the chain...Made in china...Last year I used the API
I like no bar and a light stand. Forget the 23 pounders, I like one around 15-16. The cobra or viper (i forget) fits the bill nice for me.