.22lr conversion kit

[Raging480]

Hey fellow Glock fans, has anyone bought one of these conversion kits, where you turn your Glock into a .22 semi-auto?  I see these kits for sale for about $200, and I am wondering if it is worth it, how accurate it is, etc...Is this conversion kit considered a firearm?  Does it need to be shipped to an FFL holder?

Thanks, and glock-on!

[JCM]

ttt,  I've wondered the same myself so I'm looking forward to a reply.  Thanks for asking.

[HAMMERHEAD]

From what I've read on Glocktalk, the Advantage arms is the recomended .22lr conversion. They now make them for large frame Glocks -20,21. Since they are not a firearm, you can order them through the mail to your door, no paperwork.
http://www.topglock.com/catalog/barrels_advantagearms.htm

[redawg]

Has anyone picked one of these conversion kits up yet?  I've been thinking about getting one.  What's the accuracy like?  Is it accurate enough to hunt small game with?  I've got a Ruger MKII, just thought it would be    to rabbit hunt with one of my Glocks.  That isn't my only reason for wanting one though.  I've been looking at the Advantage Arms Kit.  So what are your thoughts and/or experiences.

[Garthag]

I have one for my Glock 22/35.  I like it, except loading the magazine is a pain, and it only came with one 10-round.  Advantage Arms had on their website that they have no plans for making a high-cap, which is a little disappointing to me.

As far as accuracy is concerned, I shoot it as well as the .40, but I practice at relatively short ranges (7-10 yards) and shoot for center of mass on a big target.  Aguila 60 grain SSS cycles it fairly well.  It is supposed to take only high-velocity ammo, and I only had feeding problems with some target ammo with the flat tips.  To be honest, I haven't tried a bunch of different stuff, but the "Xpert" target ammo in the silver, red, and black box is the blunt-tipped stuff I'm talking about.  CCI stingers, Thunderbolts (Green box), and the Winchester high-velocity ammo in the white boxes are pretty much what I stick to.

It is a solid little unit, except for the magazine.  The magazine feed lips are plastic, and it feels a little flimsy when loading- flimsier than the plastic 10/22 mags.  It does seem to work, though.

I've had it for a few years, but I really haven't used it that much.  I guess I thought it was negative training because of the low recoil for followup shots.

Hope this helps.

[Savage]

Had a ceiner for the Glock 19. It was pretty accurate, but seemed to fit the slide too tight. Malfunctions were common. It's gone now, RIP. Still have one for the full size 1911. It works great and is extremely accurate.
I'd use it for falling plates, but I only have the one magazine. I think the mags sell for about $35, too expensive for me!!
Savage

[Num_1_Dad]

Had a ceiner for the Glock 19. It was pretty accurate, but seemed to fit the slide too tight. Malfunctions were common. It's gone now, RIP. Still have one for the full size 1911. It works great and is extremely accurate.
I'd use it for falling plates, but I only have the one magazine. I think the mags sell for about $35, too expensive for me!!
Savage

Have one for my 19 as well, but the accuracy at 10ft. just plain sucks...I have heard from other people who use the ceiner for other models that they are VERY picky on the ammunition used. As for problems, I had none.

[redawg]

Thanks for the responses.  I'm looking at getting an Advantage Arms Kit.  Garthag, does that kit come with a mag loading tool of some kind, or not.  I guess the lack of high capacity mags doesn't really matter to me (for the .22 kit anyway).  I'm mostly after some really cheap plinking, and if the accuracy's there I may use it for small game hunting.  If anyone else has anything to add, please do so, this purchase is a little ways off yet.

[Garthag]

Sorry, no mag loading tool.

Mine has the complete upper, 1 magazine, and a cleaning kit (CLP, Patches, and rod), and instruction booklet all in a little plastic case with lined foam.  It definately is a quality kit, but like I said, the plastic magazine feels a little weak compared to the rest of it.

[Garthag]

I just shot the Advantage Arms kit today after a long lapse, and I have to correct myself.  The feed lips/ears are metal, as if there is a metal liner inside the mags along the sides of the .22LR brass.  The rest of the mag is plastic, and still feels like there is some flex when loading.  The follower is plastic, and there is a feed ramp-looking thing on the front of the mag. The mag feed ramp on mine shows quite a bit of wear, as that part and the rest of the mag is plastic.  I shot about 100 rounds of Winchester Wildcats through it this afternoon, with about 5 stovepipes, some where the brass was stuck in the ejector port facing 180.  In all cases the next round was loaded or partially loaded, so it doesn't look like feeding the rounds are a problem.  I don't think limp wristing could be the reason either, as there is negligable recoil.  It was also cleaned just prior.
   Mine is the "L.E." model, and has adjustable sights.  I'm hitting POA at 10 yards and have never adjusted them.

[redawg]

Thanks for the update!  I just finished moving into a different house this weekend, so I haven't had a chance to do much reading here lately.  I'm not sure what would be causing the stovepipes.  I agree with you though, I doubt you could limp-wrist a .22lr.  Hope you figure out the cause.

[jro45]

I have one of those 22 LR convertion kits and the accuratecy is about a 2.5" group at 10 yds maybe 3" group. I have found that it shoots low. Inother words you have to aim out the barrel not the sights if you know what I mean. Then you can hit your target at 10 yds. I shoot a 1/2" bulls eye at 10 yds. This is how I found out where to aim from.

[Guns4570]

If you read the brochure with your AA .22 slide/barrel it will tell you to use certain ammo for it or it will not cycle cleanly.  I know I forgot that tidbit and it caused me a real pain one day at the range. YMMV

[Garthag]

Thanks-I'll have to re-read the instructions.  I just made sure it wasn't the stuff they warn you not to use.  I did get about 200 rounds of Remington HV through it a few weeks ago with MUCH better results.

[Airsporter]

I recently purchased an Advantage Arms LE conversion unit for my Glock 17.  It came with a cleaning kit and mag loading tool.  Took it out for the first time yesterday.  

Didn't have any of the recommeded CCI ammo but Remington 'golden bullet' HPs work fine.  Only one stovepipe in several hundred rounds.  

Then switched to Winchester HPs and started having problems immediately with stovepipes and then numerous failures to fire.  Disassembled and found noticable crud build-up on rear of barrel just above the chamber.  Scrubbed this off with a brass brush and shot another 100 rds of Remington ammo without a hitch.  I'll try the Winchester stuff again in a clean gun.

Apparently there was just enough of a build-up to interfer with the barrel's 'lockup' with the breechblock.  Not enough to prevent firing but enough to cause a weak striker hit.  That's my guess.

Sights were easy to adjust. I was able to shoot several 10-shot groups just barely over 1" at 10yds.  It was real windy and I was getting cold but shot a couple 25 yd groups anyway. Both were just under 4" but I feel this unit will shoot much better that I can under those conditions.

Overall. I very impressed with the quality and accuracy of this unit.  It does turn your pistol into a super lightweigh with the aluminum slide.