Cast bullets & H110

[Dusty Miller]

Is there a problem using H110 with cast bullets?  I was checking .44 mag. loads on another forum and noticed that none of the cast bullet loads used H110.  I've used it in my .44 mag. (336gr. cast LFN gass checked) and 454 Casull (350gr., cast LFN gass checked) and never had a problem.  Maybe I was just one step away from disaster and didn't know it?

[jgalar]

I have seen cast bullet load data using H110 in published manuals. I don't know where you got your data, but if you are unsure of your charge you can drop Hodgdon a line and they should be able to verify the load or recommend the proper charge.

[Cat Whisperer]

My guess is that you haven't seen it posted because we are creatures of habit.  With so many powders out there once we find a working combination there's little motivation to try the other 50 or so powders that could work.

Isn't H110 very close to another brand that is commonly used with cast?

[Haywire Haywood]

It's very close if not identical to W296.  I have seen reports that it is in fact the same powder manufactured at the same factory with a different label.  Published load data always differs a few 10ths between the two so I don't treat them as identical.

Ian

[Leftoverdj]

I treat H110 and WW296 as the same thing. WW generally gives a single charge for 296 and that charge has been safe in my experience with H-110. A feller who works up and posts a load with one ain't generally gonna go to the effort to do it with the other. He's gonna get the same results within normal lot to lot variation.

I dunno of any reason not to use these powders with GCed bullets. I sure use 296 with GCed .44s

[Lloyd Smale]

its probaly the best powder for heavy loads with cast bullets

[John Y Cannuck]

'taint so with light bullets, or at least not in my experience.
I tried to work up a load for the 38-40 a while back. Got wild swings in velocity, some way high, decided to leave that powder and use it in in the 44 mag instead.

[haroldclark]

H110 and WW296 usually have a very narrow range of quantity used.  If you go over it, boom.  If you go under it, I don't know what happens but reducing the recommended load is taboo.

I have 8 pounds plus of H110 that I wish I could use with some cast bullets that are gas checked or otherwise.

My experience with either gas checked or plain base bullets, the H110 will cause barrel leading at the throat in my 357 contender barrels.  

There are too many more flexible and forgiving powders for magnums shooting cast bullets like, 2400, 4227 and so on.

I shot a ton of lead through 44 Specials and Magnums and I nearly always ended up using H4227 or IMR 4227.  

Harold Clark

[Tom W.]

I've used H110 with plain based bullets in my .480, .44 mag and a few rounds from my .45 Colt without any ill effects.

[Nobade]

In the .44 mag at least, a case full of H110 under a water dropped #429421 with a hot primer is hard to beat! But you're right, it needs to be driven hard to work. It doesn't like lighter loads or light bullets, it can't generate enough pressure to burn cleanly. And the mag primers are a must in cold weather.

[Kragman71]

Hello,
I thinkthat H110 is the right stuff for any 'warmer' loads in a small case.
I use it with small,100 grain HJ bullets,and 112 grain cast GC bullets,and ith plain based 120 grain PPB's.All in the 30 Carbine.
Frank

[The Cast Bullet Kid]

H110 is W296.  They are both made by Primex and are indentical.
Also, H335 is W748, H414 is W760.
If you visit the MSDS sheets on web sites you can often work it out.
Here is New Zealand Winchester powders are a lot cheaper than Hodgdon so it is valuable knowledge.
Even better, the H. extruded are made by ADI in Australia however the ADI branded powder is 60% the cost of H. even though it is the same.

[Lee S. Forsberg]

Is there a problem using H110 with cast bullets?  I was checking .44 mag. loads on another forum and noticed that none of the cast bullet loads used H110.  I've used it in my .44 mag. (336gr. cast LFN gass checked) and 454 Casull (350gr., cast LFN gass checked) and never had a problem.  Maybe I was just one step away from disaster and didn't know it?

I have used H110 in 45 Colt, 44 Mag, 357 Mag, 30 Carbine. It likes heavy for bore bullets about .001"-.003" over groove diameter, heavy crimps, hot primers, hard bullets with gas checks, and good lube.

[Doctor Sam]

12 Grains of H110 with the Lyman 115 gr GC pointed bullet in the .30 caliber M1 Carbine is a fine load.  Cast of linoype, it will shoot through a car body easily.  No leading of the gas mechanism either.

Doctor Sam

[De41mag]

Dusty;

I've got a H&R Ultra in 44mag and have shot almost strickley 265gr. RNFP-GC's with H-110 and that barrel stays cleaner than shooting any jacketed bullet, with no leading what so ever. I use the bullet from Leadheads out of Kansas. He sent me some on a trial basis. The first time out using H-110 behind that bullet it put five shots in one ragged hole at 50 yds. I went home and ordered 1000 of them. Been using them ever since.
Good shooting!
Dennis  :wink:

[Dusty Miller]

Well, I'm loading a 336 gr. gas checked WLN with 21 grains of H110 and sometime this coming weekend I hope to punch holes in paper.  I'll return after the fact.

[Longcruise]

Dusty, I've gotten good results in my Ruger SBH with as much as 23 gr of H110 under a 320 WLN.  It's horendous to shoot and not extremely accurate either but as a 25 to 50 yard big game load it's acceptable.

19 to 20 grains of 110 under the same bullet is actually more accurate especially if the bullet is in the range of 14 to 16 BHN

[Lee S. Forsberg]

Is there a problem using H110 with cast bullets?  I was checking .44 mag. loads on another forum and noticed that none of the cast bullet loads used H110.  I've used it in my .44 mag. (336gr. cast LFN gass checked) and 454 Casull (350gr., cast LFN gass checked) and never had a problem.  Maybe I was just one step away from disaster and didn't know it?

I know this is about H110, however, have you considered RL#7 under heavy bullets? I have used it with 300 grain bullets, it works just fine.

[Dusty Miller]

Longcruise, I'm beginning to think you are correct.  I may end up dismantling a BUNCH of .44 mag. ammo!!