winchester model 70 safari express 375 h&h

[The Silver Fox]

The local gun shop just brough in a safari express in 375 H&H.
Has anybody ever shot of of these, tried one out. It shure looks nice.

It seems kind of light  ,8.5lbs, for a big bore.

I really want to buy it

[Bill T]

I have 2. One in .375 H&H, and the other in .458 Win. Mag. Both are very nice rifles. The .458 is the newer one of the two, and has the "Pre 64" action with controlled round feed. It's a nice feature, but I'm not one of those that insists a big bore has to be controlled round feed. Both guns are nicely finished, and the wood to metal fit is good also. I think that they are a far better buy for the money than the Ruger 77 at almost twice the price. I've seen 3 Rugers in the big bore calibers, and the quality of the wood did not match the price on any of them. I have also heard that big bore Rugers are bad when it comes to splitting stocks. I have a Ruger #1 Tropical in .416 Rigby, and that gun is well worth the money when compared to the 77. A single shot doesn't make a good DGR rifle however.  Bill T.

[Lawdog]

Bill T,

I have also heard that big bore Rugers are bad when it comes to splitting stocks.

Rumor, just a rumor is all.  I have three Ruger M77 Magnums(.375 H&H, .416 Rigby and .450 Rigby) and the stocks on the Rugers are generally very heavy.  They are wider across the butt and have a thicker foregrip.  The rifle that DID have problems with stock splitting was the CZ 550(not the new American version).  They would split right behind the action at the grip.  I had this happen when shooting one to decide whether or not I wanted to buy the CZ or the Ruger.  Now you know why I own Rugers.  The only bad thing about any Ruger bolt action is the trigger, which is a quick and easy fix.  Just wanted to set the story straight about the Ruger M77 Magnum.  Great rifle and well worth the price.  Small groups and tight lines to you.  Lawdog
 

[Bill T]

Lawdog,

I stand corrected. It is the CZ that is splitting the stocks left and right. I still think the quality of wood in most of the Ruger 77's aren't up to what they are charging however.  Bill T.

[The Silver Fox]

Well, while i was fiddling with the win model 70 idea in 375 h&h
A brand new Sako hunter 75 in 375 h&h showed up at the gun shop.
Its a little more money but the fit and finish is pretty nice.
I know it is not controlled round feed like the win but i hear the extractor is the same a the weatherbys, is also like the fact that its stainless synthetic, because im pretty hard on my guns.
It shure felt pretty lite compared to the CZ rifle i shot at the range, that CZ was a tank, recoil kinda felt like my 450 marlin.

Does anybody own a sako in 375 H&H? How do you like it???

[Larry VeR.458]

I own and also have a freind that owns a .375 H&H Mod. 70 Win.  Well come to think of it they are the Super Express models, not the new Safari Express.  I am perfectly happy with mine though, well the trigger needs a little work but that's it.  Ironically I have owned 2 winchesters in .458 and they both had stock problems, but Winchester has awesome service so no problems there.  The heavy recoil of the .458 caused the problems in both stocks, but the .375 no problems at all.  Nice styling, controlled round feed, I think you will like it.

The recoil on my .375 isn't bad for a .375, my first one was a Remington that weighed about 7.5 pounds, now THAT was too light lol!  8.5 I think is just right for .375, but now the .458 in that model also weighs 8.5, and recoil is a bit much....  (oddly my old .458 in Super Express kicked alot less than my newer Safari express, although the old one only had a 22 inch barrel)