I went with a 7-30 waters, anybody have any experience with this cal. as far as bullets, I no alot has been said , I want to use one ballistic tip for woodchucks and deer and from what I have heard its possible the 120 gr. won't penetrate enough on deer , so then I would have to go with the 140 gr. and thats a little big for varmits- decisions !! I even heard of a ranch that wouldn't allow the 7-30 with 120gr. as they claimed they lost to much game , hard to believe, and I probably shouldn't let one thread persuade me , the 120 gr. ball. tip should work on both , any experience on this would help.