30 Herrett Brass

[trapdoor]

I just picked up this nice 30 herrett barrel 14" for my contender and have some dies on the way . I am looking for some information on making the brass I have a lot of 1x fired 30-30 brass . I know the fire forming process but I was wondering if anyone out there can tell me what they use to cut the case down to the proper length after running them through the full length sizing die. I have a power case trimmer but that seems to be an awful lot to trim. Any advice will be welcome and any proven loads will be appreciated . Trapdoor

[TheKid]

When I loaded for the 30 Herrett, I used an RCBS trim die.

 Place the shell holder in the ram on the press like you normally would.  Then raise the ram to the top and screw in the trim die till it touches the shell holder, tighten the lock ring and you're all set to trim.

 I used a hacksaw to cut off the excess brass sticking out the top of the trim die then chamfer inside and out to remove burrs and you're ready to fire form.

Sorry, I can't help with specific loads.  Haven't loaded for the Herrett for several years.

Good luck and good shooting
Gary

[Graybeard]

I picked up a Forster case trimmer that works with your drill press (assuming of course you have a drill press) that I use for this. The stop on my drill press isn't real precise so I can't do the final trim with it but it sure makes a short job of cutting down the cases. I believe Lyman and maybe Hornady make a similar product.

If you have a trim die you can just use a hack saw or other metal cutting tool like a Dremel with cut off blade to shorten them and then your standard case trimmer to finish trim them. Any way you do it is a real pain but if you follow loading book recipes they last a long time and so it's not something you have to do that often.

GB

[trapdoor]

Thanks the kid I was hoping not to have to but a trim die . Thanks Trapdoor

[trapdoor]

Thanks Greybeard I have a lyman power trimmer I guess it should do the same thing . Iwill give it a try when the dies arrive in a couple days . Thanks Trapdoor

[Blackhawk44]

You can also insert a near bore sized rod or manual decapping rod in the neck then use a small, sharp tubing cutter for volume work and finish up with a trimmer.

[trapdoor]

Thanks Blackhawk that worth a try also.Trapdoor

[BruceP]

You can also use a cutting wheel on bench mounted grinder. I have never worked on the 30 Herrett but this is the way I make my first cut when making 300 Whisper brass from .223 Rem. My Accurate Arms manual lists the Herrett length at 1.605". On the two 30/30 cases I measured that is just about where the neck meets the shoulder. I would cut the case leaving just a small amount of neck, chamfer the case inside and out then run it through the sizing die. Then do the final trimming on the case trimmer. It worked great when I was making 300 Whisper brass and since I have a manual trimmer it saved a lot of turning on that handle.
BruceP

[Johnly]

I have a 30 Herrett trim die and an extended shell holder I'll loan you if you want to go that route.

[Darrell Davis]

Hey there Herrett Shooters.

Sounds to me like you are all giving good info, but just remember not to over size the brass during the forming operation. As I recall, the brass needs to be long enough (head to shoulder) to allow for a tight/snug fit when the action is closed.

This will allow for the best fire forming, brass life and over all quality of the loads.

Have Fun and keep em coming! :wink: